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10/25/2006 04:07:44 PM · #51 |
| Just saw that there were 441 entries. Wow. I was not gonna vote because I entered, but I guess I should. Even if I get only 50% voted, that is 220 votes. I think it will need all the help it can get. |
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10/25/2006 04:10:01 PM · #52 |
If a picture has out-of-focus areas then it has bokeh, by commonly accepted definition, and therefore meets the challenge.
This is more of a composition challenge than anything. It is the way your bokeh highlights the main subject that defines a 'good' bokeh picture, not whether it has little circles or not. There are many creative ways that can be accomplished and I've seen numerous ones in this challenge.
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10/25/2006 04:58:26 PM · #53 |
Jutilda, you gave me a sweet score! Thanks for that and the great comment too :) I only wish other voters would see it the way you do.
For the most part, I vote on how an image makes me feel. Technicals be damned (unless of course, something went horribly wrong for the photographer). In this challenge, I'm not looking for how many freakin blades the lens has, I couldn't give two hoots whether or not there are gaussian circles or pretty polygons. If there are and I'm moved by the way they enhance the image overall, I'll vote favourably. If they're absent and I'm still moved by the effect the oof areas have on the image, again, I'll vote favourably.
Simple game really.
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10/25/2006 05:04:30 PM · #54 |
Jutilda commented on my entry to. Now I'm in love with her.
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10/25/2006 05:41:57 PM · #55 |
I hope she's not done yet, because I dont have a Jutilda comment.... I want a Jutilda comment!
(I do, however, have a Timfythetoo comment - one of the rare times I've received one of those during a challenge. Woo!) |
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10/25/2006 05:44:23 PM · #56 |
| I don't have a Jutilda either. I am so sad :( |
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10/25/2006 05:48:38 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
I hope she's not done yet, because I dont have a Jutilda comment.... I want a Jutilda comment!
(I do, however, have a Timfythetoo comment - one of the rare times I've received one of those during a challenge. Woo!) |
Yup...I got a Timmy comment too. Actually I got 11 comments so far. Woohoo!!
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10/25/2006 05:54:00 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by ursula:
I don't have a Jutilda either. I am so sad :( |
I don't have any comments at all... |
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10/25/2006 05:54:57 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by Melethia:
I hope she's not done yet, because I dont have a Jutilda comment.... I want a Jutilda comment!
(I do, however, have a Timfythetoo comment - one of the rare times I've received one of those during a challenge. Woo!) |
Yup...I got a Timmy comment too. Actually I got 11 comments so far. Woohoo!! |
I hope I wasnt too harsh with you ladies. For some reason I felt more compelled to comment on the good, the bad and the ugly in this one rather than just the good. Not saying that I think yours may have been some of the ugly ones but I think I commented on more of those than others yet. Maybe I just need to stop talking now and quit while I am ahead (or at least quit before I get much further behind.)
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10/25/2006 05:55:13 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by Raziel:
I don't have any comments at all... |
If you can go a whole challenge without any, I have a ribbon for that. :-) (See my portfolio page) |
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10/25/2006 06:18:36 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by timfythetoo:
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by Melethia:
I hope she's not done yet, because I dont have a Jutilda comment.... I want a Jutilda comment!
(I do, however, have a Timfythetoo comment - one of the rare times I've received one of those during a challenge. Woo!) |
Yup...I got a Timmy comment too. Actually I got 11 comments so far. Woohoo!! |
I hope I wasnt too harsh with you ladies. For some reason I felt more compelled to comment on the good, the bad and the ugly in this one rather than just the good. Not saying that I think yours may have been some of the ugly ones but I think I commented on more of those than others yet. Maybe I just need to stop talking now and quit while I am ahead (or at least quit before I get much further behind.) |
Well I can be good, bad and very ugly.....so...tell me...do you feel lucky...punk?? Do ya...?
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10/25/2006 07:17:01 PM · #62 |
Yeah me too; I'm sure I had read Bukakee III.
Originally posted by Jutilda:
Maybe this should be in the rant category, but I am soooo disappointed in the bokeh challenge. I've voted on about 1/3 of them and not come close to seeing any 9's or 10's. Many don't have bokeh at all. What gives?
(I didn't enter this or the game one ) |
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10/25/2006 08:47:49 PM · #63 |
I have never seen so many DNMC ever! I don't think people know what Bokeh is, don't bother to find out, don't look at Bokeh 1 or Bokeh 2 to see what scored well - they just take a snapshot of their kid and submit it.
Oh well... I have 3 comments all saying that I have good or great Bokeh yet still hanging around the 5.4XX region. Oh well..we will see.
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10/25/2006 08:59:49 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by jerseyjim:
I have never seen so many DNMC ever! I don't think people know what Bokeh is, don't bother to find out, don't look at Bokeh 1 or Bokeh 2 to see what scored well - they just take a snapshot of their kid and submit it. |
Kid envy?? |
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10/25/2006 09:50:34 PM · #65 |
I felt more compelled to comment on the good, the bad and the ugly in this one rather than just the good.
ME TOO!!! I've left some rather harsh (but not rude or unkind) comments to some of my lower scoring votes. I hope they appreciate it.
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10/25/2006 10:22:18 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by MrXpress:
Originally posted by BradP:
I have some in mine, I think, maybe, or at least per a comment received by a
voter stating that he didn't find the use of Bokeh interesting at all in my picture.
*moan* |
Some guy told me that "bokeh is not dof" and said DNMC (nevermind that almost 90% of my image is bokeh), and typed out a link to, of all things, an article by Ken Rockwell. |
Yeah I got that too... If my picture is not up to Ken Rockwell standards, then I feel I'm doing something right.
I also did not submit a pic of a flower or of an insect because I knew there would be 100s of them. But I feel I'm losing points for doing that very thing.
I love this comment "PROPER bokeh is background blur, not foreground blur" well excuse ME for doing something different. The challenge rules say it can be either fore or background. I didn't want to do background blur. Fine rate me a 1 then. |
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10/25/2006 10:27:56 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by Melethia:
I hope she's not done yet, because I dont have a Jutilda comment.... I want a Jutilda comment!
(I do, however, have a Timfythetoo comment - one of the rare times I've received one of those during a challenge. Woo!) |
Yep, me too. Thanks Tim! |
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10/25/2006 10:41:53 PM · #68 |
Originally posted by jerseyjim:
I have never seen so many DNMC ever! I don't think people know what Bokeh is ... |
Originally posted by Maagic:
If my picture is not up to Ken Rockwell standards, then I feel I'm doing something right.
I also did not submit a pic of a ... ... |
It just amazes me how everyone has to get their 2 cents in on what is or isn't good bokeh while the challenge is actively being voted on.
Pick MY definition - it's the best! No...pick MINE - I'm right! So many images suck. So many images blah, blah, blah...
Gosh. Can't we just let people make up their own minds on how to vote and read the challenge definition? Really quite unbelievable. |
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10/25/2006 10:48:57 PM · #69 |
God I just started voting and commenting... 1 good pic out of 20 this is not cool cos I dont want to be mean but in these cases.. I have to >.<
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10/25/2006 10:51:55 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by Maagic:
Originally posted by MrXpress:
Originally posted by BradP:
I have some in mine, I think, maybe, or at least per a comment received by a
voter stating that he didn't find the use of Bokeh interesting at all in my picture.
*moan* |
Some guy told me that "bokeh is not dof" and said DNMC (nevermind that almost 90% of my image is bokeh), and typed out a link to, of all things, an article by Ken Rockwell. |
Yeah I got that too... If my picture is not up to Ken Rockwell standards, then I feel I'm doing something right.
I also did not submit a pic of a flower or of an insect because I knew
there would be 100s of them. But I feel I'm losing points for doing that very thing.
I love this comment "PROPER bokeh is background blur, not foreground blur" well excuse ME for doing something different. The challenge rules say it can be either fore or background. I didn't want to do background blur. Fine rate me a 1 then. |
It isn't very interesting by itself, but take a photograph whose subject is enhanced by the bokeh of the background. |
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10/26/2006 12:05:59 AM · #71 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
It just amazes me how everyone has to get their 2 cents in on what is or isn't good bokeh while the challenge is actively being voted on.
Pick MY definition - it's the best! No...pick MINE - I'm right! So many images suck. So many images blah, blah, blah...
Gosh. Can't we just let people make up their own minds on how to vote and read the challenge definition? Really quite unbelievable. |
Just a free exchange of ideas. That's all.
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10/26/2006 12:16:08 AM · #72 |
| Well, I just voted on all 400+ Bokens, finally some time to enjoy voting. Some great shots, numerous have no clue what boken is, and very few in the middle. My bell curve either looks like a smile or frown, depending on where your shot was on my scale. :) |
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10/26/2006 12:18:01 AM · #73 |
Originally posted by vtruan:
Well, I just voted on all 400+ Bokens, finally some time to enjoy voting. Some great shots, numerous have no clue what boken is, and very few in the middle. My bell curve either looks like a smile or frown, depending on where your shot was on my scale. :) |
I'll just toss these two points in:
1) Jutilda, I'm waiting for a comment. *taps foot* ;)
2) The votes have been all over the place. My score went from 6.0 last night to 5.5 this morning to 5.9 today to 5.6 now. Last 8 votes averaged 4.3. That's much more up-n-down than I usually see; scores swing, but usually not this much.
I have only one comment: because the person could tell what was in the background, it wasn't bokeh. Never mind the circles and the fact it was very out of focus.
Put all that together, and it tells me that no one agrees on the definition.
Vtruan, your opinion might be that people don't know what it is, but I bet that some people you so confidently declared "have no clue" met at least one of the 10,000 definitions floating around.
Message edited by author 2006-10-26 00:27:53.
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10/26/2006 12:22:50 AM · #74 |
So, maybe just because I'm an optimist, I like to look at it this way: This challenge is aparently a learning experience for a lot of us! =)
Myself included; I haven't been around too long, but I think I'm about to get my first sub-5 score!
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10/26/2006 12:50:36 AM · #75 |
| This was my first challenge. I just joined the site and am learning to use PS. I find the negative comments helpful. I wish the site would explain what bokeh is for beginners this would helpful. I truely want to learn...thank you all for the comments. |
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