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10/21/2006 02:00:42 PM · #1 |
| what do you think, in the future will all dSLR sensors be full frame or not? I see there are lots of "only-small sensor" expensive lenses coming out so maybe the there will be two markets like with analog and 35mm/medium format... |
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10/21/2006 02:12:22 PM · #2 |
There are already a few full frame sensors you realize?
Anyway, if resolutions continue to increase, there are several good reasons to increase the sensor size(no crop factor and combatting sensor noise for instance)
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10/21/2006 02:19:55 PM · #3 |
then why are they making all those lenses that are only for small sensors?
will you buy a 1000$ lens that you can't use in a near future? |
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10/21/2006 02:29:08 PM · #4 |
| I think that APS sized sensors will be around for a long while yet. FF are still really expensive to produce. |
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10/21/2006 02:32:56 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by tryals15: I think that APS sized sensors will be around for a long while yet. FF are still really expensive to produce. |
Yeah, and even more expensive to buy. :D
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10/21/2006 02:34:30 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Mick: Originally posted by tryals15: I think that APS sized sensors will be around for a long while yet. FF are still really expensive to produce. |
Yeah, and even more expensive to buy. :D |
LOL. That's a good point too. =] |
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10/21/2006 03:19:26 PM · #7 |
The full frame sensor seems to work for the high end Canons, without much more vignetting or other problems than on film, but the other manufacturers seem to be sticking with a crop factor...
Also, the bigger the sensor size, the less DOF you get with a lens with an equivelant field of view (50mm at 6ft to subject would give you more DOF than 85mm, but if you use the 50 on a 1.6x and the 85 on a full frame the FOV would be about the same). So full frame can be helpful for isolating the subject for portraits and sports work.
Leica is using a 1.33x crop in the new M8, because a lot of their lenses wouldn't work well on a full frame sensor, and it'd be too expensive to produce - $5k is out of a lot of people's range anyway, and with a FF sensor it might be more like $7k or more. Film is different than digital sensors apparently, and the vignetting/corner sharpness/flare would be a lot worse. |
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10/21/2006 04:09:11 PM · #8 |
I am pretty sure i heard that Nikon stated they were not going full frame or at least not anytime soon. canon will most likely keep the fullframe in the higher end models. if you have any idea of going to a 5d i would avoid the EF-s lenses. i have one and it was annoying to have to buy another lens when i got the 5d but the new lens (17-40L) is great and i should ahve bought it first.
Message edited by author 2006-10-21 16:09:59. |
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10/21/2006 04:15:51 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Federico: then why are they making all those lenses that are only for small sensors?
will you buy a 1000$ lens that you can't use in a near future? |
The APS lenses are likely a way to produce an inexpensive truly wide angle lens for a crop sensor. I think all the APS's that I'm aware of are wide.
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10/21/2006 04:20:12 PM · #10 |
| Surely full frame vs cropped/smalelr sensor is only relative to film's 35mm. In the digital age, we're (meaning the makers) are able to redefine their media. Perhaps neither full frame nor 1.6 (as in canon) factor sensors are the future - maybe something in between? |
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10/21/2006 06:49:39 PM · #11 |
Given the amount of APS-C specific lenses being offered by both the camera manufacturers and 3rd party lens manufacturers, I'd say that the APS-C (1.5 to 1.6 crop) format has achieved market acceptance, and will persist. "Full frame" 35mm DSLRs can be regarded as "the new medium format" and, as such, appeal to a different crowd. Not every DSLR owner will or should consider FF.
IMO, both APS-C and 35mm formats will continue to coexist and flourish. The Canon 1DMkIIn is currently the only APS-H camera on the market, to my knowledge. It's not entirely clear what Canon's direction will be... whether they will continue to offer an APS-H camera, or move their entire 1-series line to 35mm. My take at this point is that APS-H probably has a limited future. |
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