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10/10/2006 10:13:18 AM · #76 |
If my maths is right then over 200 votes a difference between 5 & 10 for 6 votes could make a .15 difference to the total. I guess ribbons have been lost for less.
But I don't expect that that really happens. |
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10/10/2006 10:18:26 AM · #77 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I don't think the issue is "average-to-ribbon", though. Sometimes the dividing line between ribbon and no ribbon is very fine indeed, and just a few votes could make the difference there. Not that I think this is happening with WPL, but hypothetically...
R. |
Agree that it could make a difference in where a shot places in the top 5 but probably not beyond that. In the WPL scheme of things, a shot placing in the top 5 is golden regardless of which spot. Now in the overall placement scheme of things it may be a different story, particularly to the 4th place finisher. |
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10/10/2006 10:24:18 AM · #78 |
Originally posted by mist:
If my maths is right then over 200 votes a difference between 5 & 10 for 6 votes could make a .15 difference to the total. I guess ribbons have been lost for less.
But I don't expect that that really happens. |
Yah. I missed ribbon in Free Study by 0.0105, and 3rd missed 2nd by even less...
R. |
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10/10/2006 11:03:05 AM · #79 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by mist:
If my maths is right then over 200 votes a difference between 5 & 10 for 6 votes could make a .15 difference to the total. I guess ribbons have been lost for less.
But I don't expect that that really happens. |
Yah. I missed ribbon in Free Study by 0.0105, and 3rd missed 2nd by even less...
R. |
Bear, you and I took 4th and 5th in Environmental Portrait. Our scores were .0063 apart. Of course we both missed the ribbons to a few unknowns like arngrimur, Goodman and Librodo
;-)
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10/10/2006 11:19:37 AM · #80 |
It wasn't lost on my last team and my future team that my three ribbons have come BETWEEN seasons. Talk about bad timing, but it should give people a bit of peace about the idea that we are all just voting other team members up...
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10/10/2006 04:47:06 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I can't speak for the other teams, but TEAM OUTCASTS (my former team) has been around from the beginning and we never shared our images with each other. Or at least, I never shared mine with other team members and none of them shared theirs with me. I'd like to assume this holds true for the other teams as well.
R. |
Same here. We communiucate as a sign of friendship and unity during a challenge in open forum... adds a little fun for sure. But not once, ever have I seen an entry by any of my fellow team members prior to a challenge nor would i dare say would any of the members suggest such a practice.
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10/10/2006 05:25:29 PM · #82 |
For all practical purposes, DPC voting is anonymous. But whether the voting is or is not anonymous makes little or no difference, as a substantial percentage of the DPC community exhibits symptoms of illiteracy, unable to comprehend the most explicit challenge descriptions.
To wit: the 'Unrelatedness' challenge. The majority of entries either had an excess of objects, objects that were clearly related, or did not make sense of unrelated objects photographically. Many had to rely on the image title to create any semblence of relatedness, whereas the photo should have stood on it's own, making sense without a title.
If so many are willing to ignore the challenge descriptions, either through illiteracy or stubborness, why bother to have a challenge description, just make all challenges open challenges. That, at least, would eliminate all the carping about whether or not any given image 'meets the challenge'!
One thing I am sure of; DPC is not a popularity contest, otherwise, I would always win (the brown)! ;<} |
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10/10/2006 06:29:43 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by mist:
If my maths is right then over 200 votes a difference between 5 & 10 for 6 votes could make a .15 difference to the total. I guess ribbons have been lost for less.
But I don't expect that that really happens. |
Yah. I missed ribbon in Free Study by 0.0105, and 3rd missed 2nd by even less...
R. |
For my fourth place in On the Beach I had 9 2's. This is as many 2 votes as the other top 6 entries combined. Obsessive as I can be about such things :), I worked out the math if just 4 or 5 of those 2's were a five I would have ribboned. I am not complaining, I could see how some may not have like the PP or could have some issue with the photo, but it just shows how few votes can change things. Oh and my one ribbon during WPL was during our Bye week. We discussed seeing eachothers entries and then not voting on that entry, which is what we do now. And only once I have shown and entry to a team member and I didn't even use it.
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10/10/2006 07:37:29 PM · #84 |
So my question remains .... Is DPC voting really anonymous?
My thoughts
I always attempt to believe people to be honest until proven otherwise. I also know people are not always honest pastors, senators, kids and/or myself. That is just a day-to-day judgment we make about people. That being said my opinion about vote anonymity. Challenge votes are not anonymous because people that participate in the voting and/or have access to voters have knowledge about a photo and its owner. Members on the site council have access to the connection between a photo and the member while the challenge is in vote. Does that mean that information is shared or taken into consideration while voting? With the information I have at hand I say NO. Is the potential there for that information to be released while the voting is occurring I say yes?
If you say SC needs access to that information for DQ request I would agree, but they only need to see the two photos (original and entry) not in conjunction with the member associated with it.
If member(s) have access to the information the Potential exist and if the potential exist the vote is not anonymous.
SC please do not take this as an accusation because what you do on a voluntary basis is nothing short of wonderful. Just my opinion on the anonymity of voting.
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