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 10/06/2006 07:25:24 PM · #1

I took this last weekend... it was a pretty blue sky, and most of my other photos turned out fine... what do you think happened to the sky in this? It looks like it was desaturated, but this is straight out of the camera... what could I have done differently?

Thanks!
 10/06/2006 07:27:04 PM · #2
were you using manual mode? if not the shutterspeed may have been different on that one if it exposed for the ground instead of the sky.

Just a guess by the way. i could be WAAAAY wrong. lol.

Message edited by author 2006-10-06 19:28:03.
 10/06/2006 07:29:02 PM · #3
Originally posted by jaded_youth:
were you using manual mode? if not the shutterspeed may have been different on that one if it exposed for the ground instead of the sky.

No, no manual... I may have used the exposure lock thingie... what should I have metered it on (that I obviously didn't)? I like the color of the water... it looks bluer than it actually was. But that sky... ick. :) Thanks for trying to help!!
 10/06/2006 07:31:06 PM · #4
Originally posted by annasense:
Originally posted by jaded_youth:
were you using manual mode? if not the shutterspeed may have been different on that one if it exposed for the ground instead of the sky.

No, no manual... I may have used the exposure lock thingie... what should I have metered it on (that I obviously didn't)? I like the color of the water... it looks bluer than it actually was. But that sky... ick. :) Thanks for trying to help!!


well you just have to expose for which ever part of the pic you want right i think. thats why people use hdr because you can take a shot exposed for the ground and one exposed for the sky and then combine them for the best of both worlds.
 10/06/2006 07:51:42 PM · #5
:) thanks for schoolin' me, crystal! :) i appreciate your help... i was trying this out on the new camera and can't remember what i was thinking at the time. thanks so much!
 10/06/2006 07:57:12 PM · #6
The best method for landscapes with sky like this is to use a graduated neutral density filter! The cokin filter holder will set you back around $18 and another $25 or so for the GND filter. Not too expensive!
 10/06/2006 08:22:50 PM · #7
Originally posted by nshapiro:
The best method for landscapes with sky like this is to use a graduated neutral density filter! The cokin filter holder will set you back around $18 and another $25 or so for the GND filter. Not too expensive!

I've been wanting to get one... maybe it's time. :) Thanks!!
 10/06/2006 08:36:03 PM · #8
Looks like your sky is overexposed but that is indeed a weird response to it. If (when) I overexpose the sky it just whites out, no detail at all really. Yours looks like it went grayscale and you can actually still see the clouds (or a couple anyway).
 10/06/2006 08:51:15 PM · #9

Using graduated overlay and few more edits. What you think?
 10/06/2006 08:52:16 PM · #10
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Looks like your sky is overexposed but that is indeed a weird response to it. If (when) I overexpose the sky it just whites out, no detail at all really. Yours looks like it went grayscale and you can actually still see the clouds (or a couple anyway).


I agree that is a wierd response for overexposure.

I'm almost wanting to say it looks more like haze, perhaps a light fog cloud rolled through?
 10/06/2006 08:53:13 PM · #11
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:

Using graduated overlay and few more edits. What you think?


Looks good, but a little over-saturated compared to the rest of the image.
 10/06/2006 08:59:47 PM · #12
I have a Photoshop trick that might save that pic :)

First, select all of your sky and copy and paste creating a second layer on top of the first. Then open an image where you LOVE the sky and the colors are appropriate.

Select the Gradient Tool and click on the Swatch in the options bar to open up the Gradient editing dialog box. Create a single fade from the color at the TOP of the image and the color at the BOTTOM of the sky. Type in your name for this gradient and hit the New button, which will save the gradient.

Go back to the image you're fixing. Select the layer that's just sky. Select Layer>New Fill Layer>Gradient. In the first dialog box, CHECK the Use Previous as Clipping Mask and change mode to Color. On the second dialog box, select the new Gradient you created. If you need to Reverse, check that box (light color should be on bottom). Style should be Linear, Angle should be 90. Hit OK :)

Then let me know this trick worked for you :) I'm thinking about teraching some Photoshop classes and it'd be nice to make sure that works for people other than me :)

Edited to say I started this before Southern Gentleman posted!

Message edited by author 2006-10-06 21:01:20.
 10/06/2006 09:23:46 PM · #13
Here's what I got. Sky could go a bit darker.

10/06/2006 09:38:07 PM · #14
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:

Using graduated overlay and few more edits. What you think?


While everyone's focused on the sky, what'd you do to the water?
 10/06/2006 10:40:03 PM · #15
go get a graduated neutral gray filter. When you have a bright sky and darker foreground it will you not to blow out the sky next time.
 10/07/2006 11:11:05 AM · #16
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Looks like your sky is overexposed but that is indeed a weird response to it. If (when) I overexpose the sky it just whites out, no detail at all really. Yours looks like it went grayscale and you can actually still see the clouds (or a couple anyway).


I agree that is a wierd response for overexposure.

I'm almost wanting to say it looks more like haze, perhaps a light fog cloud rolled through?

no... not that... all of the photos before and after look fine. it was just me messing something up, i'm sure. y'all are so funny, playing with my photo. thanks for all the tips-- i can photoshop it, too, but it looked so different than all of my other blown out skies that i wanted to see what others thought. :)
 10/07/2006 03:03:17 PM · #17
When you have a bright sky like that and darker foreground, you have a few options:
1. If you meter for the sky, you lose some of the details in the trees, water, etc.
2. Vice versa - if you meter to get more detail in the foreground, you will blow out the sky (which is what happened)
3. You can meter for the sky, then meter for the foreground and then choose a setting somewhere in the middle (doesn't always work though).

For the 1st 2 options, it's up to you what you're willing to settle for.

I personally would meter for the sky and shoot in RAW bracketing 1 stop up and down. Then try to make whatever adjustments I want in RSE.
 10/07/2006 03:33:09 PM · #18
Sky was there all along, was just hiding.
Good thing Chicken Little wasn't
around or it might have been missing...
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