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10/04/2006 03:50:09 PM · #1 |
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10/04/2006 03:54:50 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by metatate:
Second, remove one source of commonly used plastic from your life.
A suggestion would be to buy a stainless steel water bottle instead of using plastic.
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Question: How does that help? Most drinking waters are stored in plastic containers at one point in the lifespan of the product.
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10/04/2006 04:06:02 PM · #3 |
I'm not sure how water is transported necessarilly - It probably depends on the water provider. But I would imagine that a small amount of water inside a bottle would tend to absorb more than a huge quantity in a larger vessel merely because of the surface area inside the container (e.g. a bottle vs. a 20-gallon container vs. a truck-sized container).
This might be a wake-up call to a society so plastic-based. I just thought i would spread the word and people can make the decisions for themselves.
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10/04/2006 04:11:58 PM · #4 |
| I knew I preferred glass to plastic for a ligitimate reason!! now I have proof... go glass! |
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10/04/2006 04:16:51 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by metatate:
Research points to bisphenol A, a component of polycarbonate plastic, as causing changes to breast tissue, making it more sensitive to estrogen.
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10/04/2006 04:21:25 PM · #6 |
Tufts, according to another article I found ...
The internet has a great deal of info on this:
the guardian article
Originally posted by maryba:
Originally posted by metatate:
Research points to bisphenol A, a component of polycarbonate plastic, as causing changes to breast tissue, making it more sensitive to estrogen.
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10/04/2006 04:27:40 PM · #7 |
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10/04/2006 04:36:54 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by chispa:
I knew I preferred glass to plastic for a ligitimate reason!! now I have proof... go glass! |
I'd be cautious about saying this is legitimate. This is from an abstract I found in the medical literature...
Overall, 29.5% of cases and 32.5% of controls had probable occupational exposure to one or more xenoestrogens. Probable exposure to nonylphenol (21.5% of cases, 21.4% of controls), butyl benzyl phthalate (10.0% of cases, 13.2% of controls), BHA (7.3% of cases, 9.6% of controls), bisphenol A (9.6% of cases, 11.6% of controls), and 4-tert-butylphenol (2.7% of cases and 5.3% of controls) were relatively commons, while probable exposure to the other xenestrogens was rare. Only PCBs and 4-octylphenol were associated with moderate increase in the odds of breast cancer (PCBs: 5 exposed cases and 6 exposed controls, adjust odds ratio: 3.2, 95% CI = 0.8-12.2, and 4-octylphenol: 6 exposed cases and 5 exposed controls, adjusted odds ratio: 2.9, 95% CI = 10.8).
Basically, it says that in their study 9.6% of people who developed breast cancer in their study were exposed, but 11.6% of people who didn't were exposed. Doesn't seem that this study was too convincing to me...
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10/04/2006 04:42:23 PM · #9 |
When my friend's dog died, they had a vet (a brilliant man we all trusted and respected) perform an autopsy.
The vet said the dog was riddled with cancer in several places, and he guessed - correctly - the way the owners tended to feed the dog: on a regular basis, very hot food was put in the plastic dog dish to cool down, then given to the dog.
The vet believed - and that was 26 years ago - that using plastic with cold foods wasn't so bad, but the constant HOT foods released the chemicals that caused the cancers.
I'm not obsessive about the issue, but I try to stick mostly with glass, china or stainless when it comes to hot foods. |
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10/04/2006 04:42:37 PM · #10 |
Not sure of the exact reason regarding plastic, but this topic came up recently as we have a history of breast cancer in our family:
Basically, most of the plastic stuff you use for foods,water,etc. are pretty safe.
Here are some excerpts from Snopes about the "urban legends" regarding plastic and cancer: Pay particular attention about the link regarding heating (microwaving) plastic:
//www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/petbottles.asp
//www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cookplastic.asp
Message edited by author 2006-10-04 16:43:57. |
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10/04/2006 04:44:59 PM · #11 |
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10/04/2006 04:45:40 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by metatate:
I just thought i would spread the word and people can make the decisions for themselves. |
And that is good. Everyone should make the decision themselves. For me, I feel pretty darn safe regarding plastic. It's probably safer than the chemicals I injest in unwashed fruits/veggies, etc. |
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10/04/2006 04:46:09 PM · #13 |
Thanks, forgot to do that |
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10/04/2006 05:02:37 PM · #14 |
| Women have always avoided plastic. They much prefer guys who are "genuine." ;-) |
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10/04/2006 05:19:51 PM · #15 |
I am aware of these 2 articles and I was pretty sure someone would post them. They are actually not referring to this particular study and I believe the origins are different ... maybe I'm wrong, in which case, lammm-baste me! ... gotta work!
Originally posted by dallasdux:
Originally posted by metatate:
I just thought i would spread the word and people can make the decisions for themselves. |
And that is good. Everyone should make the decision themselves. For me, I feel pretty darn safe regarding plastic. It's probably safer than the chemicals I injest in unwashed fruits/veggies, etc. |
Message edited by author 2006-10-04 17:28:51. |
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10/04/2006 05:33:37 PM · #16 |
Don't forget that some people get paid a great deal of money for us NOT to see things ...
and Snopes isn't the end-all be-all ... they aren't referring to this one study.
Anyway, support the cause, and the research - regardless of whom you believe.
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