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09/28/2006 06:34:33 PM · #26
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:



From the replies so far I was thinking something like this.

1.Two leagues (World League and Global League)
2.Each League has two divisions (Division A - Division B)
3.Each Division will have 6 teams. (That will allow for 4 more teams. 28 more photographers)
4. Seven photographers per team.
5. Top four scores / 4 will be the teams average for the week.
6. A 5 week season.
7. No team will be eliminated from the playoffs. The season will determine the order of playoffs for each division.
8. Playoffs will be bracketed single elimination till we have a winner from the World league and Global league.
9. The winners of both leagues will play for the title of WPL3 Champions in the PhotoBowl II.


Ok on all, except the 5 weeks - too short. Hardly worth keeping improvement scores. 8 weeks is do-able, but adding the play-offs for all teams will lengthen that again. I'd rather keep it as is, except allowing a 7 or 8-week season.

09/28/2006 07:12:57 PM · #27
Originally posted by yanko:

I don't suppose you'd be in favor of an automatic 1.0 deduction on every entry entered by those wearing goofy jester hats?


Sure, no problem. I'll wear my formal jester hat.
09/28/2006 07:28:38 PM · #28
Well, Team Pentax fell apart in WPL2. I'm for the shorter season. But I need a new team since I don't use a Pentax anymore.
09/28/2006 07:32:01 PM · #29
Originally posted by papagei:



Ok on all, except the 5 weeks - too short. Hardly worth keeping improvement scores. 8 weeks is do-able, but adding the play-offs for all teams will lengthen that again. I'd rather keep it as is, except allowing a 7 or 8-week season.


It's probably best to either play everyone once or everyone twice in your division so going by that it's either a 5 week season or 10 week. Btw, since the playoffs will be expanded (i.e. everyone qualifies) the WPL3 season will be longer than 5 weeks for everyone.
09/28/2006 07:58:39 PM · #30


1. Did you think the regular season of the WPL2 was to long (10 weeks)?
Perfect for our team

2. Would you like to see each individual challenge count as a W/L in season three instead of going by the week?
This would shorten the season but the amount of challenges would stay the same or be slightly more. The WPL could have 10 games in only 5 weeks instead of taking 10 weeks as it did in WPL2

Nooooo... Week gives you a chance if you don't have much time a part of the week

3. Would you like to see the amount of photographers per team stay the same or go up from seven to ten if question 2 is implemented?
Nope 7 is cool with me.

4. Would you like to see team scores divisible by 3 instead of 4 this season if we implement question 2?
It was perfect this season

5. Should someone that would like to participate replace the photographers that did not participate in the WPL2? I̢۪m only talking about the photographers that signed up and their participation at the end of the regular season was 0%
Yes, I think that is nesecary

6. How long do you think the regular season should last (in weeks)?
10 was very good, not to long and not to short.

7. Would you like the Divisions and Leagues to stay the same or would you like all teams pooled together and play against their beginning averages and the top eight teams make it to the playoffs?

Leage system is ok, but mabe some configuration, skip the 2 leagues in each pool and take the top 2 in each group and draft the 3'd and 4'th against eachother. Could work I think :)
09/28/2006 08:01:44 PM · #31
I wanted to go item by item....but I think the way it is fine, honestly.
09/28/2006 08:20:51 PM · #32
I think the WPL2 was ran as smoothly as possible..I liked how it was set up...I see no problems with it as long as people paticipate..and whatever the decision is, it is fine with me..

Tom
09/28/2006 10:15:52 PM · #33
My experience a bit skewed due to having 2 teammates signup but never participate in WPL2. With only 5 participants, there was extreme pressure to enter every challenge whether or not you had a good idea or felt so inspired.

I like the concept of not allowing substitutes, but I think I would prefer to see larger teams. This would allow more to participate, and would also allow breathing room, the ability to skip a week without leaving your team in the lurch.

For that same reason, the 10 weeks seemed to last forever.

I guess in summary, I would prefer larger teams and maybe only 8 weeks of duration.

09/29/2006 12:12:13 AM · #34
I think WPL2 was very good...maybe a week or so too long...but don't think we need to half it, 7-8 weeks sounds just fine. I think a season lasting two months is perfect. I don't think we should ever have teams higher than 10...and if it ever got that high then I think the score should be calculated from the 5-6 top scores, that would mean 4 could sit out a week an no hurt the team. I am also fine with it staying a 7 person team system...but don't think the top scores should ever go lower than 4.

Everything else sounds good.

Clint
09/29/2006 03:34:02 AM · #35
Is there a team that us newbies who aren't that great can join?
09/29/2006 08:27:49 AM · #36
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:


7. No team will be eliminated from the playoffs. The season will determine the order of playoffs for each division.


Actually on second thought, after sleeping on it, I think it wouldn´t be completely wize to have ALL teams advance to the playoffs, I just think it´s a little bit unfair to go 0-5 from the season and then go into the playoffs, have a couple of "hot weeks" and win the whole thing. It also would lead to people not being as fired up about the season itself. I do think the majority of the teams should go to the playoffs though and I like that idea, maybe the top 4 from each division so that there are 16 out of the total 24 teams that make it to the playoffs?

I still agree with all the other points.
09/29/2006 10:05:15 AM · #37
We're in again this season (down a couple of players though). I was pretty happy with how the season was run for the most part. Maybe shorten it by a week or two. I like seven players per team but also think that everyone that wants to play in the league should have the opportunity so having a couple more players per team is fine with me too. I'm not good with the logistics to how these kind of leagues operate or work best so I'll leave that up to you guys who do.

I just want to play and have fun. :)

Thanks again Scott for asking for our input!
09/29/2006 02:04:41 PM · #38
Ok here is the first order of the WPL3.

1. All teams that participated in WPL2 needs to contact me via PM between 9/29/06 and 10/06/06 and let me know if your team will be participating in WPL3. You also need to let me know of any photographer changes, if any. If you have to replace a photographer on your team please look at the list of NEW photographers that are not on a team and choose from a photographer from that list. If I do not receive a PM during that time I will assume that your team wishes NOT to participate in WPL3. I will private messaging each captain this information. Note: Please be advised that teams replacing photographer is not limited to this list. They can replace a photographer with a photographer not on the list.

2. Any NEW teams that would like to participate in WPL3 needs to contact me via PM between 9/29/06 and 10/06/06 and let me know your team name, team captain, all photographers username, and the links to their profile. Your team must consist of seven photographers including the captain.

3. Any NEW photographers NOT on a team that wishes to participate in the WPL3 needs to contact me via PM between 9/29/06 and 10/06/06 with your username and link to your profile. I will post a list so teams that need to replace a photographer can choose from the list of new photographers that want to participate. Note: Please be advised that teams replacing photographer is not limited to this list. They can replace a photographer with a photographer not on the list. For this reason I ask that new photographers communicate with each other and try to form a team if possible.

4. The WPL3 Will consists of 24 teams so first come first serve on teams. If you want your team to participate you need to SIGN-UP your team asap. A complete team consist of filliing out all fields on the SIGN-UP page.

The changes to the WPL3 will be minimal from season 2. The changes are made to accommodate some feedback from this forum. Please understand that I could not accommodate all requests because of time restrictions, coding and formulating, and the basic math of how many teams vs. weeks. There also will be some changes to the playoff. All these changes will be discussed below.
1. 2-Leagues (World and Global)

2. 2-Division in each league (Division A and Division B)

3. 6-Teams per division

4. 7-Photographers per team

5. 4-Top photographers scores will be divided by 4 to get the teams average.

6. Weekly contest like season 2

7. Top 4 teams per division will make it to the playoff bracket

8. Teams will only play teams in their division in the regular 5-week season.

Note: Some portions of this update are subject to change as the WPL3 will not know exactly how many teams will be participating until midnight 10/06/06.


Message edited by author 2006-09-30 22:03:08.
09/29/2006 04:17:06 PM · #39
Sent you a pm.

Yeah, some good people in the existing teams. Maybe I could be in division 2 ;)
09/29/2006 04:48:09 PM · #40
Hey Scott. Team 20D will be moving on to WPL3. We want to fill our open space with Bear_music. We had quite a few people asking to join us, but we decided to invite Robert because he was to be in the team from the beginning and flipped a coin with Rikki for the last position.

Welcome to the team, Robert.

*puts on her cheerleading skirt* GO TEAM 20D! KEEP A ROCKIN' GUYS!!! :D
09/29/2006 05:07:57 PM · #41
Originally posted by idnic:

Hey Scott. Team 20D will be moving on to WPL3. We want to fill our open space with Bear_music. We had quite a few people asking to join us, but we decided to invite Robert because he was to be in the team from the beginning and flipped a coin with Rikki for the last position.

Welcome to the team, Robert.

*puts on her cheerleading skirt* GO TEAM 20D! KEEP A ROCKIN' GUYS!!! :D


Hmm, would have been nice if he informed Team Outcasts before he jumped ship. He was after all our captain.
09/29/2006 05:25:59 PM · #42
Today I have been in the process of building the WPL3 Site. So I have not been able to read much emails and threads about the WPL. I will catch up shortly. I need each team to pick a spot from 1-24. That will setup the divisions. Below is how the spots are arranged.

World League
-Division A
1
2
3
4
5
6

-Division B
7
8
9
10-30D
11
12

Global League
-Division A
13
14
15
16
17
18

-Division B
19
20
21
22
23
24

As I receive the full info from each team I will update the open spots with the team name. First come first serve on the spots. The PM date & time will determine which team gets the spot they want. If the spot has already been taken I will PM the captain informing them so and they can pick from the remaining open spots until all 24 are filled.
Remember you will only be playing the teams in your division.

When you have your teams complete please PM me with the teams information.
1. Team Name
2. Spot your team picked (1-24)
3. Captains Username
4. Remain 6 photographers username
5. If you have a logo please provide me a link to it. I will be posting team logos this time.
6. Please provide the links to all photographers profiles (PLEASE!). It helps me a lot.

Message edited by author 2006-09-30 00:13:41.
09/29/2006 05:31:56 PM · #43
i think team mediocre is pretty much dead, good members but all seem busy with other things.

i on the other hand, will likely be looking to get recruited, if someone needs a low score to knock off each week :-)
lol
09/29/2006 05:38:57 PM · #44
Team Nikon is due for a rebuild I think. I missed season 2 so it would be nice if every member of TEAM NIKON who is interested in WPL3 could PM me to let me know you are interested then we can put a team out that can have a serious challenge

INTERESTED? ..... PM ME PLEASE

Sorry to Gugi for jumping in but we need to sort it out NOW!
Thanks guys/girls lets put NIKON where it belongs BACK ON TOP!
09/29/2006 05:49:20 PM · #45
I will post a list tonight of photographers that have PMed me wanting to participate in WPL3. Any teams needing replacement photographer please look at the list. I will post the list in this thread and on my signature line.

Thanks everyone for being patient with me. I trying to get the WPL3 organize as quick as I can.

Thanks,
SDW
09/29/2006 09:45:28 PM · #46
You can preview WPL3 here.
09/30/2006 12:02:01 AM · #47
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:

Today I have been in the process of building the WPL3 Site. So I have not been able to read much emails and threads about the WPL. I will catch up shortly. I need each team to pick a spot from 1-24. That will setup the divisions. Below is how the spots are arranged.

I am curious about this formula, since it seems like waiting to pick your division would be easier once you see where some other teams are to try and find an easier division? Or are you simply going to say that a number is taken but not show us so we can't try and jockey for position? Maybe its just me who this seems alittle weird too... Again thanks for all this work your doing.
joe
09/30/2006 12:11:16 AM · #48
Originally posted by jdannels:

Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:

Today I have been in the process of building the WPL3 Site. So I have not been able to read much emails and threads about the WPL. I will catch up shortly. I need each team to pick a spot from 1-24. That will setup the divisions. Below is how the spots are arranged.

I am curious about this formula, since it seems like waiting to pick your division would be easier once you see where some other teams are to try and find an easier division? Or are you simply going to say that a number is taken but not show us so we can't try and jockey for position? Maybe its just me who this seems alittle weird too... Again thanks for all this work your doing.
joe

Goto WPL then click on the WPL3 sign at the bottom of the page. It will take you to the homepage of WPL3. On the left you will see a link "Photographers and Teams List", click on it and it will show you the users that has already sent me a pm wanting to participate and you will see the teams that have confirmed their participation. If they have a number beside then, like team 30D, that is the spot picked.

I do not put teams in any order. As I did last season I have teams to pick a team number (first come first serve) and thats where they will be place unless it has already been take. I use the date and time of the pm or email to validate who picks first.

SDW
09/30/2006 12:20:55 AM · #49
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:



I do not put teams in any order. As I did last season I have teams to pick a team number (first come first serve) and thats where they will be place unless it has already been take. I use the date and time of the pm or email to validate who picks first.

SDW

Okay, thanks :)
09/30/2006 07:38:19 AM · #50
I want to join a team, and was told to see you. Soooooo, how do I join?!?
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