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09/29/2006 01:22:00 PM · #1
"A Jackson County high school has canceled part of its varsity football season. Concord school officials say it's because some players attended a party where there was drinking. It's homecoming week at Concord High School.

Story

One of the players that didnt attend the party but still will not be able to play is Chad .

Sucks to be punished for something you didn't do...
09/29/2006 01:25:35 PM · #2
In football, they generally mark off the penalty against the whole team, even if only one player was caught holding.

This might not be "fair," but it's consistent with developing a team where the players rely on each other to all follow the same rules.
09/29/2006 01:27:34 PM · #3
no, it's not fair, but it's life. it really sucks, but, by the same token, if you can step back far enough, you can turn it into a teachable moment about character, leadership, adversity, and handling things in a mature manner. [note: i didn't read the linked article]

a lot of times, it's not what we do, but how we react to what is done to us that defines us. in life, you can't control what happens, only how you react.

good luck. hope ya'll can get some lemonade out of this lemon.
09/29/2006 01:30:08 PM · #4
School is full of peer pressure. Think of the pressure the kids are getting now "NOT" to drink or go to parties that server ADULT beverages.

Ya know what, you did the crime pay the time. These "UNDERAGE" children seem to be crying about not being able to do something that is AGAINST THE LAW.

Also, Against the School Code Of Conduct for these players.

9 players out of how many? - The Admin could have done a couple of things. Suspend the players, (which wouldn't matter much but cause a small rift) Or Suspend the Team (making much larger waves and Making a Greater Statement) Or Forget about it.

Kids now days are being too Coddled, there needs to be more Hard Nosed Dicipline and this could be the start.
09/29/2006 01:31:22 PM · #5
Originally posted by skiprow:

a lot of times, it's not what we do, but how we react ...

Just ask (metaphorically) President Nixon.
09/29/2006 01:32:08 PM · #6
I remember hearing about a coach who caught some of the team drinking Smirnoff Ice or something...he punished them by making them wear women's clothing for a week, because they were drinking such a girly drink.

Now that's a fair punishment :)
09/29/2006 01:32:23 PM · #7
P.S. It is Completely Fair. If you have Ever been on a TEAM Sport, Exspecialy HIGHSCHOOL FOOTBALL, you would know that its a group effort and that it is treated as such. IF you don't have your players back and watch out for each other, you normally are not on the team or are on the plaid string (Less than 4th string).

Fair Play,
Team Work,
Commerodery.

Team broke the rules. It wasn't 1 or 2, It was NINE PLAYERS.

The right Choice was made.
09/29/2006 01:38:02 PM · #8
It sucks to be a parent at times and do something like that to one of your own, hurting a
whole team in the process, as I did to my son during his Junior year.
His grades dropped and he knew if his grades weren't up to par, he couldn't wrestle.
Grades came out, and assumed he would be wrestling that weekend for the school,
as the wrestling team was State-ranked and is a big deal to the school & community.
He didn't - I wasn't bluffing.

School still won, had an upset son for a while, and a coach that thanked
me for the discipline and message it gave to others on the team.

It's all about lessons in life and accountability - never an easy road.
09/29/2006 01:41:52 PM · #9
Originally posted by littlegett:


Team broke the rules. It wasn't 1 or 2, It was NINE PLAYERS.

The right Choice was made.


I agree. And also agree that more hard-nosed punishment should be turned toward the spoiled kids of today.

It's too often that kids are coddled and blame for thier actions are placed in the wrong directions.
09/29/2006 01:46:55 PM · #10
I appreciate all the opinions, and I can see both sides..
Let me throw in this information that wasn't included in the press story though...

Also at the party were members of the girls basketball team, they were allowed to play their game the following Tuesday..

I havent heard any recent news if the girls are going to punished..
09/29/2006 01:55:02 PM · #11
Originally posted by buzzrock:

Also at the party were members of the girls basketball team, they were allowed to play their game the following Tuesday.

The coaches had better get together on a standard policy or there's gonna be trouble (spelled L-A-W-S-U-I-T).
09/29/2006 02:11:10 PM · #12
Girls Basketball isn't has High Profile as the Boys Varsity Football.

It may have been sweeped under the carpet.

Yet, the question is, what is the policy for the girls, does it differ than the one for the boys? Because from my personal experance, there have always been a set of General guidlines for everyone and a set more Strict for the Football team.

I still think it is 100% fair for the boys.

and something 'should' happen to the girls.
09/29/2006 02:13:33 PM · #13
Originally posted by skiprow:

no, it's not fair, but it's life. it really sucks, but, by the same token, if you can step back far enough, you can turn it into a teachable moment about character, leadership, adversity, and handling things in a mature manner. [note: i didn't read the linked article]

a lot of times, it's not what we do, but how we react to what is done to us that defines us. in life, you can't control what happens, only how you react.

good luck. hope ya'll can get some lemonade out of this lemon.


very well said and I agree with every word
09/29/2006 02:42:34 PM · #14
I agree with the general sentiment that this is harsh, but that it does seem to be the most consistent way to deal with the team-building goals that should be at the heart of all school athletic programs.

I do have to point out my favorite quote from one of the students in that article:

"I think it's absolutely ridiculous that something that happened off school grounds, nowhere near school grounds happened, and now we're being punished for it after the fact."

Believe, me, if parents could punish kids before they did something like this, we would. Until that becomes possible, we'll just have to keep on doing it after the fact. :-)
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