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09/18/2006 03:17:10 AM · #1 |
First off I would say Black Widow, but I think a black widow has the red mark underneath her body.
Not sure?
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09/18/2006 03:31:32 AM · #2 |
Black spider with red stripe on back - Castianeira descripta
may I add deadly spider..
edit to add link
spider
Message edited by author 2006-09-18 03:34:18. |
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09/18/2006 03:32:05 AM · #3 |
your spider? (the second one shown)
This is the first thing I found, but going to check further :)
eta; but I was beaten to it!
edited again to say that now I've seen that one, I don't think it is...
Message edited by author 2006-09-18 03:34:39. |
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09/18/2006 03:33:05 AM · #4 |
Looks like an Australian Red Back (like a Black Widow)...deadly, deadly, deadly
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09/18/2006 03:39:19 AM · #5 |
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09/18/2006 03:40:16 AM · #6 |
Australian?
In South Africa?
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09/18/2006 03:45:45 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by hotpasta:
Looks like an Australian Red Back (like a Black Widow)...deadly, deadly, deadly |
We get them quite often around the house. Them, and ive found one or two black widows.
Even though I am completely against killing something because it looks ugly or horrid, I have no choice.
We have a little jack russel that will chase and play with anything that moves, and even though the spider has a very small mouth to bite with, it could be easier for her to bite inside a dogs mouth. |
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09/18/2006 03:49:11 AM · #8 |
well, it's definitely a Latrodectus, which are the black widow family, and it looks, from what I can find, to be L. hasselti, but I haven't found anything yet that puts them in S. Africa.... hmmm....
eta;
Lotsa links to related info
Links
And...
redbacks found in Japan
Maybe you should capture it and get in touch with the university or some expert and have it professionally identified? If it IS a redback, as it appears, you may have discovered something!
Message edited by author 2006-09-18 03:55:19. |
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09/18/2006 03:52:58 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
well, it's definitely a Latrodectus, which are the black widow family, and it looks, from what I can find, to be L. hasselti, but I haven't found anything yet that puts them in S. Africa.... hmmm.... |
That Wikipedia link you posted claims they reached japan through cargo holds on planes etc. so it may be possible that they arent native to this country...
we sure do have the worst of the worst in Africa. If it isnt for malaria, ebola or TB, we have the black Mamba, puff adder and tsetse fly to contend with.
:)
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09/18/2006 03:56:02 AM · #10 |
| Yup, check my edit that came up the same time as your post :) |
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09/18/2006 04:25:00 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by Guyver:
we sure do have the worst of the worst in Africa. If it isnt for malaria, ebola or TB, we have the black Mamba, puff adder and tsetse fly to contend with.
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I dunno about that; I recall reading that Australia has more venomous species (snakes, reptiles, insects, spiders, etc) that are deadly to humans than all other continents combined... Plus the crocodiles of course :-)
R.
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09/18/2006 04:27:46 AM · #12 |
i believe, in South Africa, they're called a Koppie spider. definitely looks to be a Widow spider, though.
Redback spiders
Lactrodectus worldwide map
Message edited by author 2006-09-18 04:29:32.
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09/18/2006 04:32:42 AM · #13 |
Yup:
"Background: The redback spider (Latrodectus hasseltii) belongs to the family Theridiidae, the comb-footed spiders. Its genus Latrodectus also includes black widows, whose name may be more familiar to North American readers. The redback spider can be found throughout Australia, although it is more commonly seen in the temperate regions than the colder, southern areas. The spider exists in higher numbers in Australia̢۪s urban and suburban areas and is virtually absent in the continent̢۪s forests. Outside of Australia, similar species of Latrodectus include Karakurt in the Central Asia, Malmignatte in Europe, the Koppie spider in South Africa, and the Night Stinger in New Zealand."
R.
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09/18/2006 04:34:22 AM · #14 |
THis is very interesting.
The widow is known as the koppie spider in South Africa from what I gather, or widow family, at least.
But if you look at this map:
MAP
Figure two shows the movement of the red back spider and nowhere is it near South Africa?
Originally posted by bear_music:
I dunno about that; I recall reading that Australia has more venomous species (snakes, reptiles, insects, spiders, etc) that are deadly to humans than all other continents combined... Plus the crocodiles of course :-)
R. |
Hey, we have hippos, rinkhals, nile crocodiles, pythons... I could go on forever :)
But as I said, what we lack in general array of deadly species, we make up for in true African tropical diseases :)
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09/18/2006 06:26:34 AM · #15 |
thats a red back, nasty bite to them
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09/18/2006 08:01:58 AM · #16 |
HEY!
I'm no arachnoidologist, but it looks too much like a black widow for comfort.
But can Anyone help me identify this, I got close enough to take a picture in my back yard...
whaddya think?
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09/18/2006 09:06:47 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by blindjustice:
HEY!
I'm no arachnoidologist, but it looks too much like a black widow for comfort.
But can Anyone help me identify this, I got close enough to take a picture in my back yard...
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That is a Ridikulus Monstrositorious commonly found amongst those who dwell on the verge of bordeom and insanity.
I wouldnt worry too much about it - the majority of them are tame, harmless and cuddly little pussycats.
;)
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09/18/2006 09:18:07 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by hotpasta:
Looks like an Australian Red Back (like a Black Widow)...deadly, deadly, deadly |
Ah c'mon Enzo, you're just perpetuating a myth. Red Back bites are very, very rarely fatal and even then only ususally to babies or folks with other serious medical conditions etc. Don't get me wrong, you don't want to be bitten. The bites can hurt like hell and make you feel crap for a while (I speak from experience here!), but you're not likely to suffer anything too serious. The poor little fellas are just misunderstood. :) |
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09/18/2006 09:28:35 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by Qiki:
Originally posted by hotpasta:
Looks like an Australian Red Back (like a Black Widow)...deadly, deadly, deadly |
Ah c'mon Enzo, you're just perpetuating a myth. Red Back bites are very, very rarely fatal and even then only ususally to babies or folks with other serious medical conditions etc. Don't get me wrong, you don't want to be bitten. The bites can hurt like hell and make you feel crap for a while (I speak from experience here!), but you're not likely to suffer anything too serious. The poor little fellas are just misunderstood. :) |
And to pets? |
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09/18/2006 09:37:26 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by Guyver:
And to pets? |
Not as sure about the effect of bites on small animals. I worked in vet hospitals for years and don't recall ever having seen a suspected case of a death due to a Redback bite. Saw '00s of dogs with swollen faces that had obviously been bitten by some sort of critter (mainly bees) and I'm sure some of these probably would have been spider bites. |
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09/18/2006 10:10:11 AM · #21 |
i have an almost 3yr old boy and an abundance of black widows around my house. normally i'm aposed to killing spiders, since i'd rather have them than the bugs they eat.
however, if it's black with a red spot, it gets, as they say here in the rural south, kilt dead.
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09/18/2006 11:52:18 AM · #22 |
I think it may be the "Redbackus walkonwhitestuffus" but I may be wrong.
Originally posted by Guyver:
First off I would say Black Widow, but I think a black widow has the red mark underneath her body.
Not sure?
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