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 04/28/2003 01:11:55 AM · #1










I like waterlillies :)
 04/28/2003 01:15:09 AM · #2
Here's a non-lilly:

04/28/2003 01:19:20 AM · #3
You like waterlilies? Do you know a guy called Monet? ;) I like the third one of the four here a lot; has a nice oriental feel to it. The first one, non-waterlily, is very intriguing and very painterly but imho needs a little something more to hold it together. Don't think much of that frame job on the bottom picture.

Message edited by author 2003-04-28 01:21:07.
 04/28/2003 01:33:13 AM · #4
Actually I like lotuses more but can't find them here, only waterlillies....



Originally posted by Journey:
You like waterlilies? Do you know a guy called Monet? ;) I like the third one of the four here a lot; has a nice oriental feel to it. The first one, non-waterlily, is very intriguing and very painterly but imho needs a little something more to hold it together. Don't think much of that frame job on the bottom picture.
 04/28/2003 01:54:11 AM · #5
Originally posted by paganini:
Actually I like lotuses more


Being bai hai lien, i am pleased to hear that. lol

Any chance you could re-crop that first orange picture, taking off some of the right and the top where it gets a little too loose? I think it could be a dynamite image.

04/28/2003 01:58:39 AM · #6
What's bai hai lien?

it's more of a buddhist thing for me on the lotuses. Waterlillies are very similar, especially the second photo (the patterns are the same other than that the middle is different, and lotuses are bigger)

Well, i don't crop :) don't believe in it, though i have been known to enter challenges with cropped photos -- those photos that i keep i don't crop.....

Here's another one...



The leaves are just really dirty on them, too bad.



Originally posted by Journey:
Originally posted by paganini:
Actually I like lotuses more


Being bai hai lien, i am pleased to hear that. lol

Any chance you could re-crop that first orange picture, taking off some of the right and the top where it gets a little too loose? I think it could be a dynamite image.


Message edited by author 2003-04-28 02:09:38.
 04/28/2003 02:13:58 AM · #7
Originally posted by paganini:
What's bai hai lien?


 04/28/2003 01:48:45 PM · #8
What's this?

Originally posted by Journey:
Originally posted by paganini:
What's bai hai lien?



 04/28/2003 03:49:14 PM · #9
It's mandarin meaning white sea lotus, my chinese name which i acquired three years ago. Many chinese people adopt a western name, so i thought it would be only fair if i adopted a chinese name. Judging from your last name, i thought your roots were from China or Taiwan but i guess i was mistaken.

Never mind.
 04/28/2003 04:18:51 PM · #10
I am :) from Taiwan when I was little. I can still read it though, but i thought it was some sort of a organization.

Originally posted by Journey:
It's mandarin meaning white sea lotus, my chinese name which i acquired three years ago. Many chinese people adopt a western name, so i thought it would be only fair if i adopted a chinese name. Judging from your last name, i thought your roots were from China or Taiwan but i guess i was mistaken.

Never mind.

 04/28/2003 05:21:17 PM · #11
For everyone who liked my photo but hated the vignetted border I used, here's the same shot with a plain black border, as well as the alternate entry where I think I used the technique to better effect.
Poppies and Sedge Blue Roses
04/28/2003 05:28:06 PM · #12
Should've entered the BLUE roses!!!!!

Originally posted by GeneralE:
For everyone who liked my photo but hated the vignetted border I used, here's the same shot with a plain black border, as well as the alternate entry where I think I used the technique to better effect.
Poppies and Sedge Blue Roses

04/28/2003 05:33:32 PM · #13
Originally posted by paganini:
Should've entered the BLUE roses!!!!!

Thanks! I spent too much time in the forums beforehand, and decided to enter indigenous plants instead of something from the florist's stand...
I know some people who I'm going to make prints for anyway -- think the white vignette overlay works here? I wanted to cover up the background elements which show in the corners, and I thought this gave it a more dreamy quality than a "regular" vignette would have.
 04/28/2003 05:44:50 PM · #14
Paganini: The lily's are very nice, but I really love the last one you posted with the double effect with one out of dof in the background. nice!
 04/28/2003 07:33:54 PM · #15
Thanks, i like the last one as well, too bad I delete it off my hard drive already :) i really like impressionistic flower shots where the foreground blurs and the background blurs and leaving only a few elements visible.


Originally posted by KarenB:
Paganini: The lily's are very nice, but I really love the last one you posted with the double effect with one out of dof in the background. nice!

 04/28/2003 07:36:13 PM · #16
I think the white works fine for the blue photo.

Or you can try this...

use photoshop, duplicate a layer, add a layer mask to the photo and use CIRCULAR gradient to mask it off, and use "MULTIPLY" for the blending option, and you can keep doing this a couple times to get the desire effects.

I have seen someone did it this way as well: Duplicate the layer, erase the parts you don't want to make DARKER (i.e. leaving edges), then use multiply.

White blurs works great for wedding photos too... cuz, well, the bride is usually wearing white dresses.

Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by paganini:
Should've entered the BLUE roses!!!!!

Thanks! I spent too much time in the forums beforehand, and decided to enter indigenous plants instead of something from the florist's stand...
I know some people who I'm going to make prints for anyway -- think the white vignette overlay works here? I wanted to cover up the background elements which show in the corners, and I thought this gave it a more dreamy quality than a "regular" vignette would have.

 04/28/2003 07:53:43 PM · #17
Originally posted by paganini:
I think the white works fine for the blue photo.

Or you can try this...

use photoshop, duplicate a layer, add a layer mask to the photo and use CIRCULAR gradient to mask it off, and use "MULTIPLY" for the blending option, and you can keep doing this a couple times to get the desire effects.

I have seen someone did it this way as well: Duplicate the layer, erase the parts you don't want to make DARKER (i.e. leaving edges), then use multiply.

White blurs works great for wedding photos too... cuz, well, the bride is usually wearing white dresses.

Thanks for the advice and suggestions!
 04/28/2003 08:10:33 PM · #18
General E, i much prefer your blue flowers, too. For the photoshop part, for this situation quick mask would work fine as well.

Paganini, now that the mandarin confusion is cleared up, wanted to say that the two lillies shot is beautiful as well. Very. If you don't mind me saying i find the frame somewhat 'heavy' for the delicacy of the image and also find the green of the frame taking away from the shot rather than supporting it. I do like the 3d effect though.

May i sneak in a quick g3 question? :) On your g2 have you done macros without any macro extensions? I don't have anything yet for macros but the macros i am getting are disappointing. Was wondering whether that was me (probably) or whether most g2 macro shots i have seen were done with extra equipment and they have raised my expectations.

Message edited by author 2003-04-28 20:12:00.
 04/28/2003 08:23:34 PM · #19
Originally posted by Journey:
General E, i much prefer your blue flowers, too. For the photoshop part, for this situation quick mask would work fine as well...

Thank you. I don't have any problem creating the effect in any of several ways, but wanted to "make sure" people thought it was a desirable effect...
 04/28/2003 08:50:15 PM · #20
Flora Outtake:

Luminous Blue:


Comments welcome.

Message edited by author 2003-04-28 20:50:25.
 04/28/2003 08:53:31 PM · #21
Another fave.

"Sleeping Dragons"


04/29/2003 02:05:47 AM · #22
Originally posted by GeneralE:
...and decided to enter indigenous plants instead of something from the florist's stand...


I wanted to get a shot of CA Poppies also for this challenge, but I realized I'd have to go to Mt. Diablo park to be able to get shots of large poppy fields which was about 80 miles away. :( Turns out my Azalea shot which did OK was taken only about 2 miles away at my parents house! :)
 04/29/2003 03:13:40 AM · #23
Magnetic, i like your Sleeping Dragons a lot as well. The other picture doesn't do much for me. Still, i'm glad that you submitted that 'Typical Dutch Scene' with that sumptuous purple tulip. You should send it to the Keukenhof which is a very famous tulip garden in Holland having an unbelievable variety of tulips all in a beautiful setting with fine sculptures (Marino Marini, Giacometti, etc.)

Could you or anyone else do me a huge favor and give me some technical hint(s) on a daffodil picture i did. That flower was sitting pretty much in the shade under a tree and i took it abt 7 this evening. Still, it's washed out. Just don't know how to approach it. Thank you kindly.

Message edited by author 2003-04-29 03:46:04.
 04/29/2003 07:42:01 AM · #24
try dialing in -0.7 to -1.0 exposure compensation to keep the white from blowing out.

thanks for the comments :)

Originally posted by Journey:
Magnetic, i like your Sleeping Dragons a lot as well. The other picture doesn't do much for me. Still, i'm glad that you submitted that 'Typical Dutch Scene' with that sumptuous purple tulip. You should send it to the Keukenhof which is a very famous tulip garden in Holland having an unbelievable variety of tulips all in a beautiful setting with fine sculptures (Marino Marini, Giacometti, etc.)

Could you or anyone else do me a huge favor and give me some technical hint(s) on a daffodil picture i did. That flower was sitting pretty much in the shade under a tree and i took it abt 7 this evening. Still, it's washed out. Just don't know how to approach it. Thank you kindly.

 04/29/2003 12:14:05 PM · #25
White flowers are difficult to do. Underexpose it by 1/3 or 2/3 would help. -1 or -1 1/2 is too much.

A way to do this:

set your G3 to spot metering.

Point it at the white part of the flower, lock the meter.

Compensate it by bringing up by 1 1/2 or 1 2/3 stops, as the spot meters GRAY and a white flower is usually 1 2/3 stops above gray.

Check your white balance. Is it cloudy? If so, change it to cloudy, don't use the AWB or use a gray card if you want truly accurate colors.


Originally posted by Journey:
Magnetic, i like your Sleeping Dragons a lot as well. The other picture doesn't do much for me. Still, i'm glad that you submitted that 'Typical Dutch Scene' with that sumptuous purple tulip. You should send it to the Keukenhof which is a very famous tulip garden in Holland having an unbelievable variety of tulips all in a beautiful setting with fine sculptures (Marino Marini, Giacometti, etc.)

Could you or anyone else do me a huge favor and give me some technical hint(s) on a daffodil picture i did. That flower was sitting pretty much in the shade under a tree and i took it abt 7 this evening. Still, it's washed out. Just don't know how to approach it. Thank you kindly.

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