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08/29/2006 11:09:00 PM · #1 |
OK OK, I don't expect anyone to actually review them all.
Last weekend a girl came over to my house. She does a little modeling and needs to expand her porfolio. Of cause that meant moving all furniture around, setting up backdrops and playing with light the day before.
After 6 hours of shooting I had about 500 photos. Now I'm so confused. I like most of them. I need to pick the best for my portfolio.
Please help me find the best and post photo number. It would be a lot of help to me.
Here is the link:
//www.nikolaipozdniakov.com/Photo/TripsEvents/2006-08-26%20-%20Nadya%20-%20Unedited/
Thanks
Nick
Message edited by author 2006-08-29 23:09:51.
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08/29/2006 11:12:31 PM · #2 |
Ill do them all....As long as she really is sexy...
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08/29/2006 11:25:25 PM · #3 |
I don't think I can link directly, but I liked these.
dsc_3132.jpg
dsc_3130.jpg
dsc_3033.jpg
dsc_2919.jpg
dsc_2816.jpg
In almost all of the full length shots, she didn't seem sure what do do with those long limbs of hers.
What lens did you shoot with?
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08/29/2006 11:28:00 PM · #4 |
I took a quick scan through the photos and while I think they're all very nicely shot, and that Nadya's very attractive (I especially like the series in jeans against a dark B/G)...what jumps out at me is that she almost never smiles.
Is she self-conscious about her teeth?
Maybe she'd smile more if she was assured that until she can have her teeth done professionally, they can be touched-up in the pics she intends to include in her portfolio.
Nice work. Is it scary to work with a model? I've never had the opportunity. |
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08/29/2006 11:43:52 PM · #5 |
Dang, Nick... 6 hours with a beautiful model and 500 pictures to choose from? You're leading a rough life, dude... :-)
Okay, I skimmed through the images. There's no way I can pick a favorite out of 500. So you're on your own in that regard. I did want to make one comment though. Most of the images have fairly even/flat lighting (meaning no shadows). I think I prefer the images where there is at least some hint of shadows to help shape her face. These is by no means an exhaustive set of examples (remember, I was only skimming), but here are some of the ones that I picked out of the thumbnails because I liked the lighting:
dsc_2958
dsc_2957
dsc_3318
dsc_3248
dsc_3159
Anyway, they look good. Good luck on picking out your favorites. :-)
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08/29/2006 11:48:02 PM · #6 |
| I skimmed through. As far as narrowing the field, there are a lot that are underexposed and some with harsh shadows from flash. You could nuke those immediately and it would probably be more manageable. |
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08/29/2006 11:49:55 PM · #7 |
I only had chance to go through them quickly, I skipped quite a few. When I get chance I̢۪ll take a proper look. I agree with Fromac, you need to try and get her to smile more. Also wavelength pointed out that she didn't seem to know what to do in the full-length shots. A prop of some sort would help, it would give her something to do and help her relax.
These are the ones I have found so far:
DSC_2829, 2833, 2852, 3002, 3011, 3015
Also as Fromac said the ones in the jeans are best.
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08/29/2006 11:49:57 PM · #8 |
Took a look through the photos and I must say an overall strong effort. I am sure your model and you can use quite a lot of these.
Good points....
Nice model with interesting look..has some exotic feel about her.
You have a good feel for poses and have a nice variety and for the most part dont put the model in awkward positions.
Bad Points....
What is your studio set-up? I ask because the bad backgrounds and poor lighting are wasting a lot of good shots. You get some nice even lighting mostly but sometimes it goes to hell..too often for a studio set-up.
The model has some awkward features if turned wrong..like when she smiles too broadly or shows off a very angular feature...you could really use a professional hair and makeup artist on some of the shots where the hair gets a bit clumpy.
Here are the shots I would buy if I were looking for a model. Some Of My Favorites These are not all of them but you get the idea.
The bottom photo brings all the good elements of your photography and her features togehter..do more like this with the nice light and the good overall pose.
Message edited by author 2006-08-30 00:48:22. |
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08/30/2006 12:18:34 AM · #9 |
| i just want to say WOW and I can see why you'd have a problem picking out your faves... I'm afraid I can't help you. My favorites are probably 100 of your close-ups. I wasn't really taken with any of the full body shots... some trite poses and the backdrop wasn't great... She has a beautiful smile, I wish she had used it more! There was one shot at the beginning where she was looking back over her right shoulder, and her shoulder/arm bones looked very odd and unnatural. But I would be pround of most of those shots. Granted, I'm a beginner, but still. They're great!! |
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08/30/2006 08:02:53 AM · #10 |
Thanks everybody for comments. I just work up and as soon as I wash my face I'll read everything posted and answer questions.
Thanks you
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08/30/2006 08:37:01 AM · #11 |
For one...I think there are too many duplicate poses throughout the different clothing changes.
There are too many shots all together and not nearly enough 3/4 poses.
I could narrow that down to 100 shots for you.
The model is beautiful, the lighting is even for the most part but there was no action in the lighting, the backgrounds are drab - I would have done half the shots on location if I were you.
I would shy away from spending 6 hours working against a white and black non-professional backdrop. |
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08/30/2006 08:46:23 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by KevinG:
For one...I think there are too many duplicate poses throughout the different clothing changes.
There are too many shots all together and not nearly enough 3/4 poses.
I could narrow that down to 100 shots for you.
The model is beautiful, the lighting is even for the most part but there was no action in the lighting, the backgrounds are drab - I would have done half the shots on location if I were you.
I would shy away from spending 6 hours working against a white and black non-professional backdrop. |
I did look through quite a few and you have some nice shots to choose from, but I agree with KevinG, you could do with some shots at different locations to adda bit of variety, all the shots are a little samey.
Good work on what you have so far though, well done!
PS The model is hot, hot, HOT!!!!
Message edited by author 2006-08-30 08:46:59. |
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08/30/2006 09:53:07 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by wavelength:
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What lens did you shoot with? |
Nikon 24-85 f2.8 @ f8 1/200 iso 200
Originally posted by Fromac:
Is she self-conscious about her teeth?
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Yes. Her smiles need to be limited with just a bit of teeth showing.
Originally posted by Fromac:
Is it scary to work with a model? I've never had the opportunity. |
It is some pressure. You are expected to deliver results. To make sure I do I practiced weeks before with friends and read some books on light and posing.
It is still a LOT of fun.
Originally posted by dwterry:
Most of the images have fairly even/flat lighting (meaning no shadows). I think I prefer the images where there is at least some hint of shadows to help shape her face. |
Yes I agree. However looking at magazines and glamor photographs of other it seems that most of them do not have almost any shadows at all. I guess this would be matter of preference.
Originally posted by routerguy666:
I skimmed through. As far as narrowing the field, there are a lot that are underexposed and some with harsh shadows from flash. You could nuke those immediately and it would probably be more manageable. |
This set includes test shot and shots where main light didn't go off. I should have taken those out.
Originally posted by zardoz:
A prop of some sort would help, it would give her something to do and help her relax.
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She didn't want to do props and I didn't prepare any. Next time.
Originally posted by hokie:
What is your studio set-up? I ask because the bad backgrounds and poor lighting are wasting a lot of good shots. |
Setup: 1 living room, moved furniture, Nikon D70 w/ 24-85, SB800 as master, SB600 in umbrella, another SB600 fires at background with color filter taped on it. Sometimes I used something called Northern Lights steup. It is where both flashes point to opposite wall creating a huge softbox effiect. Used for full body shots.
I think backdrops are not bad and wrinkles easily fixed in photoshop. As far as missfires you are right. Too often. Not sure what the issue is. Maybe light sensor is blocked by umbrella.
Originally posted by KevinG:
For one...I think there are too many duplicate poses throughout the different clothing changes.
There are too many shots all together and not nearly enough 3/4 poses.
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Agree. She didn't like 3/4 poses because of how her cheek bones were showing. The "rule" is skinny model needs to face camera directly.
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08/30/2006 10:12:35 AM · #14 |
Nickolai....If you have access to such a willing and nice model..you need a better light set-up. Also, you are skilled enough at this stage that any solid lighting set-up designed for studio work will pay you huge dividends.
I have a Nikon system too and a couple SB-800's but they have nowhere near the speed, consistency of light, recharging speed and light coverage of even an inexpensive Alien Bee system.
I have an entry level elinchrom system I bought mainly for sports photos I am doing this year. It blows away my SB-800's.
I agree that wrinkles can be fixed in photoshop BUT...when you start doing work for people..the editors do not want to be looking at a lot of potential photoshop work to get things usable. I work with art directors and editors everyday. Most of the stuff we use can be used right out of the camera or run through a quick action in photoshop for color corrections and levels.
An inexpensive backdrop system is a must for studio work if you plan on shooting hundreds if not thousands of photos in a session.
I would not even mention this at all if I didn't see a lot of good stuff in your recent work to justify the expense. Good luck.....
Message edited by author 2006-08-30 10:14:25. |
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08/30/2006 11:07:15 AM · #15 |
I liked the way her eyes lit up when she did smile. There are a few flat 'deer in the headlights looks' from her that I dont care for. When she was wearing the b&w dress her hair looked a little to tossled. The 'defensive posture' when her hands are crossed in front was not becoming for her. She is very beautiful. I especially liked it when she had one side of her lips upturned in a slight smile in a very flirty fashion. I think you should have not uploaded the obvious bad ones as it brings down the overall impression. I think investing in some good backdrops would be a wise investment for you. You have some good skills. Some post processing and background replacements should make quite a few of these worthy.
My favorite shots are
dsc_3013.jpg
dsc_3133.jpg
dsc_3267.jpg (with some post processing)
dsc_3309.jpg
dsc_3315.jpg to bad the bra is peeking thru. I think it would have also been better without the earrings. |
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08/30/2006 12:09:23 PM · #16 |
took a quick browse through all of them and the following caught my attention:
2840
2918 maybe with a bit of a crop
3024
3075 started to get interesting with the nice diagonals, but you cropped off her fingers
3088
Now a question for those that shoot with models. On a number of images from 3044 - 3133 you can see what a bra or undershirt showing through the back of her outfit. If you are shooting a fashion style shot, I would think that this is a problem. Unfortunately, I usually don't have the nerve to say loose the bra because I'm afraid the model will think I'm after nipples rather than just clean lines in the garments.
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08/30/2006 12:39:39 PM · #17 |
Loose the bra is fine if you give them an alternative to help with nipple outlines. I think fashion people make these special (I wanna say pasties but I am not sure if that is the exact thing fashion photogs are using).
When I was at my previous company and our fashion photographer shot women he used gauze pads. It was thick, usually stuck well to the inside of the clothing and conformed well to the clothing without leaving an outline.
I would think any self respecting model would appreciate the help in looking their best for their photo shoot if you are professional about it.
Message edited by author 2006-08-30 12:40:33. |
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