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08/25/2006 09:39:26 PM · #76 |
Originally posted by undieyatch:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
2) It's easier to have a title and not read it, than to want a title and not have it there. At least as many people want to read the titles as don't, so the current system seems to offer the best compromise for accomodating both points of view. |
I'd like to address this point made by GeneralE:
The fact that one is required to make a title is no compromise - As one cannot enter a challenge without a title and without entering something. Usually if one does not want a title "untitled" or some other dingbat junk is entered or some other multi-step process required just to have a blank space. |
At DPC, where the photo must "fit" a challenge title, that becomes the de facto title of the photo ... if the challenge is "Artichokes" then the title of your photo is "Artichokes" even if you leave it blank -- the only exception would be for a free study challenge. |
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08/25/2006 09:48:46 PM · #77 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by blindjustice:
All I am proposing is remove the title until after voting is done. Why do we need it? Stop the shoehorning ... |
1) We recently reformatted the voting page so that the title is below the picture -- if you want to look at the picture and not the title, just don't scroll down.
2) It's easier to have a title and not read it, than to want a title and not have it there. At least as many people want to read the titles as don't, so the current system seems to offer the best compromise for accomodating both points of view.
3) What exactly do you mean by "shoehorning?" If you mean that the photo only "meets the challenge" with a title and should therefore be penalized, I'd say that's completely illogical -- either the photo meets the challenge or it doesn't.
If you admit it does after reading the title, then it did before too, but you just didn't see the connection ... and this, of course, is really the best answer to #2 ...
What I can't understand is why are so many people so intent on penalizing creative or unusual interpretations, seemingly going out of their way to look for reasons to consider a picture "DNMC" .... |
If you read the very first post- someone said this to me; but as i got to thinking, I realized i loved to title images and would never want to ban them- I just thought that during the challenge it would be acceptable. I saw "shoehorning" I didn't invent the title=
from all my past posts I have always been of the school of thought that says nobody should downgrade or take points off for dnmc- because there may be smarter people taking the shots than judging them at times- and don't inflict dnmc stupidity on other people. |
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08/25/2006 09:56:22 PM · #78 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by undieyatch:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
2) It's easier to have a title and not read it, than to want a title and not have it there. At least as many people want to read the titles as don't, so the current system seems to offer the best compromise for accomodating both points of view. |
I'd like to address this point made by GeneralE:
The fact that one is required to make a title is no compromise - As one cannot enter a challenge without a title and without entering something. Usually if one does not want a title "untitled" or some other dingbat junk is entered or some other multi-step process required just to have a blank space. |
At DPC, where the photo must "fit" a challenge title, that becomes the de facto title of the photo ... if the challenge is "Artichokes" then the title of your photo is "Artichokes" even if you leave it blank -- the only exception would be for a free study challenge. |
yes the challenge has a title and a description...... and all fotos fall under the challenge name, titled or not, that is obvious. However my suggestion is that no provision has been created to allow an entrant to choose no title. |
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08/25/2006 09:58:46 PM · #79 |
Originally posted by undieyatch:
no provision has been created to allow an entrant to choose no title. |
Yeah, it would be nice to have the option. Picture's worth a thousand words, sometimes you just don't need to go for 1003 or 1004. |
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08/25/2006 10:01:58 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Originally posted by undieyatch:
no provision has been created to allow an entrant to choose no title. |
Yeah, it would be nice to have the option. Picture's worth a thousand words, sometimes you just don't need to go for 1003 or 1004. |
I believe you can enter a for the title. Just as long as there's at least one character in the field it will be accepted. |
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08/25/2006 10:13:36 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Originally posted by undieyatch:
no provision has been created to allow an entrant to choose no title. |
Yeah, it would be nice to have the option. Picture's worth a thousand words, sometimes you just don't need to go for 1003 or 1004. |
I believe you can enter a for the title. Just as long as there's at least one character in the field it will be accepted. |
The method is obscure, thank you for bringing that up. However why should one be flagged if nothing is entered. |
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08/25/2006 10:18:17 PM · #82 |
Originally posted by undieyatch:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Originally posted by undieyatch:
no provision has been created to allow an entrant to choose no title. |
Yeah, it would be nice to have the option. Picture's worth a thousand words, sometimes you just don't need to go for 1003 or 1004. |
I believe you can enter a for the title. Just as long as there's at least one character in the field it will be accepted. |
The method is obscure, thank you for bringing that up. However why should one be flagged if nothing is entered. |
I agree, you should be able to bypass the title field. However, it seems to be coded as mandatory. |
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08/25/2006 10:49:08 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by undieyatch:
The method is obscure, thank you for bringing that up. However why should one be flagged if nothing is entered. |
To remind you you haven't entered a title, in case you forgot.
R.
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08/25/2006 11:00:00 PM · #84 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by undieyatch:
The method is obscure, thank you for bringing that up. However why should one be flagged if nothing is entered. |
To remind you you haven't entered a title, in case you forgot.
R. |
Thanks for reminding me Bear.... but it is also a barrier if no title is desired. |
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08/25/2006 11:04:35 PM · #85 |
Originally posted by undieyatch:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Originally posted by undieyatch:
no provision has been created to allow an entrant to choose no title. |
Yeah, it would be nice to have the option. Picture's worth a thousand words, sometimes you just don't need to go for 1003 or 1004. |
I believe you can enter a for the title. Just as long as there's at least one character in the field it will be accepted. |
The method is obscure, thank you for bringing that up. However why should one be flagged if nothing is entered. |
Also remember that in many places on the site the image title is a clickable link, even where the photo does not normally appear, like in the challenge entry list on the profile page. If there's no title, there's nothing to click, and it thus disables site functionality.
There's nothing at all wrong with doing what some folks do, and simply putting "Untitled" in the title space. |
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08/25/2006 11:08:28 PM · #86 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Also remember that in many places on the site the image title is a clickable link, even where the photo does not normally appear, like in the challenge entry list on the profile page. If there's no title, there's nothing to click, and it thus disables site functionality.
There's nothing at all wrong with doing what some folks do, and simply putting "Untitled" in the title space. |
Now, THAT makes sense :-) Is the man sharp, or what?
R.
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08/25/2006 11:19:16 PM · #87 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by undieyatch:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Originally posted by undieyatch:
no provision has been created to allow an entrant to choose no title. |
Yeah, it would be nice to have the option. Picture's worth a thousand words, sometimes you just don't need to go for 1003 or 1004. |
I believe you can enter a for the title. Just as long as there's at least one character in the field it will be accepted. |
The method is obscure, thank you for bringing that up. However why should one be flagged if nothing is entered. |
Also remember that in many places on the site the image title is a clickable link, even where the photo does not normally appear, like in the challenge entry list on the profile page. If there's no title, there's nothing to click, and it thus disables site functionality.
There's nothing at all wrong with doing what some folks do, and simply putting "Untitled" in the title space. |
Your explaination may be true for a challenge entry, however why is it that portfolio fotos without a title on a profile page are easily accessed and why would challenge pictures be any different. |
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08/25/2006 11:49:16 PM · #88 |
Originally posted by undieyatch:
Your explaination may be true for a challenge entry, however why is it that portfolio fotos without a title on a profile page are easily accessed and why would challenge pictures be any different. |
'Cuz the lists on your profile page of challenge entries are by default without thumbnails, and you click on the image title to see the image in question. So it's set up as a required field. Like others have said, you can just use spacebar in the field and it will become clickable as a link.
R.
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08/26/2006 12:31:21 AM · #89 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by undieyatch:
Your explaination may be true for a challenge entry, however why is it that portfolio fotos without a title on a profile page are easily accessed and why would challenge pictures be any different. |
'Cuz the lists on your profile page of challenge entries are by default without thumbnails, and you click on the image title to see the image in question. So it's set up as a required field. Like others have said, you can just use spacebar in the field and it will become clickable as a link.
R. |
This makes a certian amount of sense - I'll take your word that a challenge entry is entered and treated different from a portfolio upload. However none of this is leading to a simplified, easier, less obstructed way to create an untitled challenge entry. |
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