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08/24/2006 04:48:56 PM · #1 |
In a comment to a recent entry, some anonymous voter said:
"This is exactly what I hate, when someone doesn't meet the challenge and then twists the title to make it fit..."
So my proposal is to remove all titles until after the challenge.
Apparently they serve no purpose. If the site council wants the shot to be named, they will give specific instruction.
It started as a joke, but I think this should be done.
Look at a good photo in the winners- was the title necessary for voting? |
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08/24/2006 04:49:59 PM · #2 |
| I´d go for this, mainly because I have trouble coming up with titles, hehe :) |
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08/24/2006 04:51:53 PM · #3 |
| I don't see what value this would add though. It's not as if you are forced to include what the title says in your voting. |
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08/24/2006 04:52:22 PM · #4 |
| I like titles.they can be especially important for humor shots. |
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08/24/2006 04:55:14 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by blindjustice:
Look at a good photo in the winners- was the title necessary for voting? |
Yes. :-/
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08/24/2006 04:57:51 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by blindjustice:
Look at a good photo in the winners- was the title necessary for voting? |
Yes. :-/
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I think that would have scored highly even if people couldn't figure out those were carats. Actually it's rather ironic you bring this photo up since those aren't diamond carats anyway, which is what I assume you were trying to convey. :)
ETA: Seriously though I think maybe it might make the voter look at the photo more if at first glance they don't understand it. The longer people look at a photo the better, IMO.
Message edited by author 2006-08-24 17:01:35. |
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08/24/2006 04:59:35 PM · #7 |
| You can't remove the titties from the pics......oh wait....."T I T L E S" nevermind. |
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08/24/2006 05:01:31 PM · #8 |
A properly chose title can greatly enhance the impact of a photo. A poorly chosen one can certainly detract. It's no different than choosing whether to use a border, or what type of border, or any other artistic choice for that matter.
Sure, a title can be used to "shoehorn" a photo into a challenge. What of it? The voters will have their say, and their word is final. |
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08/24/2006 05:02:57 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
A properly chose title can greatly enhance the impact of a photo. A poorly chosen one can certainly detract. It's no different than choosing whether to use a border, or what type of border, or any other artistic choice for that matter.
Sure, a title can be used to "shoehorn" a photo into a challenge. What of it? The voters will have their say, and their word is final. |
Amen!
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08/24/2006 05:04:21 PM · #10 |
| What's a good example of a photo that was enhanced by the title? I agree it may make the photo understandable but enhanced? |
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08/24/2006 05:10:24 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by yanko:
What's a good example of a photo that was enhanced by the title? I agree it may make the photo understandable but enhanced? |
"Mother's Grief...Mother's Joy"
Personally I felt some other entity entered me and allowed me to come up with that title. I love it.
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08/24/2006 05:16:42 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by yanko:
What's a good example of a photo that was enhanced by the title? I agree it may make the photo understandable but enhanced? |
"Mother's Grief...Mother's Joy"
Personally I felt some other entity entered me and allowed me to come up with that title. I love it. |
Excellent example! |
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08/24/2006 05:19:43 PM · #13 |
A lot of people seemed to think the title helped this one ...
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08/24/2006 05:21:15 PM · #14 |
I get good comments on how my titles fit the image.
Keep the titles.
I have no idea why people get upset over this.
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08/24/2006 05:28:31 PM · #15 |
I don't think anybody is getting upset. But you have to admit the "I'm using the title to explain how my photo fits the challenge, because no one would get it otherwise" titles are a bit annoying.
Message edited by author 2006-08-24 17:28:53. |
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08/24/2006 05:31:24 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
A lot of people seemed to think the title helped this one ...
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General, yours made me laugh when I saw it in the challenge.
This one is the best title I've seen
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08/24/2006 05:32:42 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by pekesty:
I don't think anybody is getting upset. But you have to admit the "I'm using the title to explain how my photo fits the challenge, because no one would get it otherwise" titles are a bit annoying. |
And I'm sure the annoying ones get voted down because of it.
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08/24/2006 05:40:05 PM · #18 |
| Interesting... I've thought about this as well... I think for an upcoming challenge, it might be a fun experiment. |
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08/24/2006 05:53:09 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by lil_mo:
Interesting... I've thought about this as well... I think for an upcoming challenge, it might be a fun experiment. |
I actually like titles.... I like how they make you look at the photo longer. Sometimes the title helps enhance the photos meaning. Just think how many photos would not fit any challenge without a title. No matter how much your subject was about the theme. Sometimes I will look at a photo and say to myself, "Hmm... I see that how that fits the challenge" but then I see the title and see it even more.
Not only that... but think about famous photographs. Think how many of those have titles.
I do think it would be fun though to do a challenge where we have no titles, just to see how much harder we work at getting our point across without words at all.
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08/24/2006 06:01:01 PM · #20 |
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08/24/2006 06:16:34 PM · #21 |
I'd like to think the title was an asset here, and it certainly wasn't a question of shoehorning:
I say "Boo! Hiss!" to all philistines who want to ban titles. As far as I'm concerned it's an inane suggestion.
R.
Message edited by author 2006-08-24 18:16:56.
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08/24/2006 06:22:26 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by scarbrd:
Originally posted by pekesty:
I don't think anybody is getting upset. But you have to admit the "I'm using the title to explain how my photo fits the challenge, because no one would get it otherwise" titles are a bit annoying. |
And I'm sure the annoying ones get voted down because of it. |
I'm sure your right, however, I like to think everyone votes on the photos merit and not the title.
By the way please don't take the original post as taking up cause to remove titles, it was just an observation. I'm pretty unbiased either way, other than I suck at titles and hate coming up with them. |
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08/24/2006 06:41:51 PM · #23 |
| why not just have one challenge called "NO TITLE" and don't allow them.. otherwise anything goes : ) |
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08/24/2006 08:30:21 PM · #24 |
I make every effort to look only at the picture first and form an impression of it, then I look at the title. Sometimes it makes me look a little deeper and actually THINK about the shot beyond its obvious first impression (such as Bear's artichoke example) and sometimes it just disturbs me that a long title is needed to explain the photo rather than a little more effort and thought put into actually expressing it with the shot.
The title doesn't usually affect my vote but on occasion it has, both positively and negatively. |
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08/24/2006 09:42:44 PM · #25 |
| I think a title is just a part of the artistic expression and like all forms of artistic expression it can enhance or detract dependant on the viewer – obviously the artist thought it enhanced otherwise it would not have had a title in the first place. It could be argued that a great image needs no title as it should say all that needs to be said within itself. However, I disagree, sometimes the viewer needs to understand the mindset of the photographer before they can truly appreciate what the image is saying. I feel to disallow titles is to cripple part of the artistic expression; it would form a challenge but would be detrimental as the norm. |
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