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08/09/2006 06:56:45 PM · #26
Originally posted by chimericvisions:

Originally posted by deapee:

Originally posted by kenskid:

Dep...does that scotch tape really work? Is it safer than liquid?

Skid


yeah man it works. I think it's safer...I would never put liquid near my camera intentionally especially when the lens is off.

It's simple...get like 8 inches of tape, double it over (sticky side out) and use a soft brush with a pad to put it right on your sensor...press super light, and roll the tape back off...cleans the sensor 100% 100% of the time for me.


God... are you kidding? You'd rather put GLUE near your sensor than solution specifically made for cleaning photo equipment?

The residue that could leave would be almost as bad as scratching it. If you've had no problem, you're lucky. Pure luck.


The whole idea of scotch tape is that it doesn't leave a residue - god bless the guys at 3M. I'm not sure what it's called in the rest of the world but here it's sold as Scotch Magic tape and it quite different to all the other types of sticky tape.

I was pretty sceptical of deapee's method until I had a really bad bit of dust that wouldn't come off, so I thought I'ld give his method a go - and it works like a charm.

Thinking about it now and knowing how the tape works I feel a lot more comfortable with this method than the idea of dragging the dust accross the sensor with a stick.
08/09/2006 07:17:28 PM · #27
Originally posted by kenskid:

It seems that many of you wanted to see the profile of the "stupid guy who damaged his sensor" so my profile views cracked 5000 ! It was 4090 last night and now is 5028 !

Thanks for looking at the STUPID GUY !!!

No profile pic - how disappointing.

;-)
08/09/2006 07:20:16 PM · #28
Click thru the link below...smugmug photo there...

Originally posted by jhonan:

Originally posted by kenskid:

It seems that many of you wanted to see the profile of the "stupid guy who damaged his sensor" so my profile views cracked 5000 ! It was 4090 last night and now is 5028 !

Thanks for looking at the STUPID GUY !!!

No profile pic - how disappointing.

;-)

08/09/2006 07:23:32 PM · #29
Originally posted by kenskid:

Click thru the link below...smugmug photo there...

Nah... you don't look stupid enough in that shot. How about a pic of you cleaning your sensor with sandpaper.
08/09/2006 07:25:16 PM · #30
If I could set it up I would enter it in the 'stupid' challenge.

Originally posted by jhonan:

Originally posted by kenskid:

Click thru the link below...smugmug photo there...

Nah... you don't look stupid enough in that shot. How about a pic of you cleaning your sensor with sandpaper.

08/09/2006 07:31:53 PM · #31
Had you been shoting at the beach? Could it have been a grain of sand? Or would that have shown up as a gigantic blob? I don't know. I've have a bad case of sensor dust for over a month now and am still trying to convince myself to try and clean it.
08/09/2006 07:32:06 PM · #32
Originally posted by kenskid:

If I could set it up I would enter it in the 'stupid' challenge.

Originally posted by jhonan:

Originally posted by kenskid:

Click thru the link below...smugmug photo there...

Nah... you don't look stupid enough in that shot. How about a pic of you cleaning your sensor with sandpaper.


I feel a shot of somebody reaching in to their camera body with a metal cooking spatula coming on....

Or a household vacuum.
08/09/2006 07:40:56 PM · #33
I can't figure out where it came from. The pads were stored correctly. It was just a freak thing I guess. I still like the method. In fact, since the scratch today, I cleaned 4 more times..."praying" that the scratch would go away. I now have a FREAKINGLY clean sensor with a SCRATCH!

ks

Originally posted by Penny Lane:

Had you been shoting at the beach? Could it have been a grain of sand? Or would that have shown up as a gigantic blob? I don't know. I've have a bad case of sensor dust for over a month now and am still trying to convince myself to try and clean it.

08/09/2006 07:55:00 PM · #34
Gawd, now you have scared me! I have original, factory-installed Canon dust that has been on my sensor from day one, and *JUST* got the nerve to buy a cleaning kit.

Me thinks I am going to give it away and make the 30 minute trip to Canon Canada HQ and let them clean it.
08/09/2006 08:05:26 PM · #35
Hmmm.....I am planning on getting a Copperhill kit...now I'm not so sure!
08/09/2006 08:05:48 PM · #36
Time to drop the camera while photographing from atop a step ladder, then give the house insurance guys a call :)

Seriously, this is really bad luck mate, I have only had to clean mine 2 times, but was a bag of nerves each time. You have succeeded in making me even more nervous LOL.

I know of someone who did intentionally drop thier camera after damaging it and then got a new one of the insurance, but I know I would get stung by the insurance company's version of Columbo and wind up nicked for fraud if I tried it, I just aint lucky enough to get away with such scams.
08/09/2006 08:13:13 PM · #37
Like I said...I think the copperhill method is good. I cleaned about 9 times in the last year...all came out great.

...I cleaned today and one speck of hard grit got under the stick and whamooooo...

....however, the camera is fine. The line is near the top and can only be seen on light background at the highest f-stops. It really won't make too much of a difference in my everyday picture taking.

I think though that I shaved about $200 off it's resale value if I ever wanted to sell it!

Originally posted by Makka:

Hmmm.....I am planning on getting a Copperhill kit...now I'm not so sure!

08/09/2006 08:19:23 PM · #38
Holy Cow, I just cleaned my sensor, and I am ever so glad that I didn't read all this BEFORE I did it!

BTW - It was really quite bad, blowing did nothing, the brush made it somewhat worse. Two runs with the pad and it now looks really good (though still not perfect).
08/09/2006 08:46:43 PM · #39
Yup scratched, exactly what happened to mine using a hmemade CopperHill method. If ya have about $400 you can replace the sensor like I did .... ouchhhhhh. Mine was so bad it showed at all f-stops. Glad your is only at f/32, not a lot of use up there anyway.

Join the club stupid ;)
08/09/2006 08:58:35 PM · #40
You guys are brave to try cleaning your own sensors. I am lucky enough to live within reasonable driving distance of a Canon Factory Service Center where they will clean it for free while I wait:-)
08/09/2006 09:44:31 PM · #41
Yeah...$400 would be way to steep to get a new sensor unless that scratch was dead center and visible at f11 !

How bad did you scratch yours...any pic I can see?

Skid

Originally posted by PhantomEWO:

Yup scratched, exactly what happened to mine using a hmemade CopperHill method. If ya have about $400 you can replace the sensor like I did .... ouchhhhhh. Mine was so bad it showed at all f-stops. Glad your is only at f/32, not a lot of use up there anyway.

Join the club stupid ;)

08/09/2006 10:09:26 PM · #42
If it's any consolation, I don't believe it's the actual sensor that is scratched. There is a hot mirror filter over the sensor to prevent IR light from passing through to the sensor since CCD's are very sensitive to IR.
That said, if you're at all interested in IR photography you may have just ended up with a donor camera for an IR conversion when you eventually upgrade bodies. Here's a link to one of the companies that offers conversions or DIY kits with more information for anyone who's interested.

//www.lifepixel.com

If you just want the camera fixed and feel bold enough you could also follow their DIY instructions for the IR conversion and install a new hot mirror filter over your sensor instead of the IR filter and save yourself about $300 in labor and only need to spend about $100 for a new hot mirror filter.
08/09/2006 10:30:10 PM · #43
Where would I get the filter and how does one replace it?

Originally posted by EricMGB1974:

If it's any consolation, I don't believe it's the actual sensor that is scratched. There is a hot mirror filter over the sensor to prevent IR light from passing through to the sensor since CCD's are very sensitive to IR.
That said, if you're at all interested in IR photography you may have just ended up with a donor camera for an IR conversion when you eventually upgrade bodies. Here's a link to one of the companies that offers conversions or DIY kits with more information for anyone who's interested.

//www.lifepixel.com

If you just want the camera fixed and feel bold enough you could also follow their DIY instructions for the IR conversion and install a new hot mirror filter over your sensor instead of the IR filter and save yourself about $300 in labor and only need to spend about $100 for a new hot mirror filter.

08/09/2006 10:58:09 PM · #44
Originally posted by chimericvisions:

Originally posted by deapee:

Originally posted by kenskid:

Dep...does that scotch tape really work? Is it safer than liquid?

Skid


yeah man it works. I think it's safer...I would never put liquid near my camera intentionally especially when the lens is off.

It's simple...get like 8 inches of tape, double it over (sticky side out) and use a soft brush with a pad to put it right on your sensor...press super light, and roll the tape back off...cleans the sensor 100% 100% of the time for me.


God... are you kidding? You'd rather put GLUE near your sensor than solution specifically made for cleaning photo equipment?

The residue that could leave would be almost as bad as scratching it. If you've had no problem, you're lucky. Pure luck.


uhm no I'm not kidding...and IT DOESN'T LEAVE RESIDUE. i've cleaned my sensor nearly 20 times like this without any problems. Yet I read about people all the time putting liquid on their sensors and getting problems from it, and that method not cleaning the sensor. It cleans my sensor 100% of the time perfect so you clean yours how you want and I'll clean mine how I want. If you choose to use liquid and you don't damage your sensor, I'd consider you lucky my friend.

Message edited by author 2006-08-09 23:11:24.
08/09/2006 11:02:23 PM · #45
I use wet willies to clean my sensor. Haven't had a problem yet.
08/10/2006 12:39:40 AM · #46
Some reading...
08/10/2006 01:29:44 AM · #47
kenskid beat me to it regarding the hot mirror. your actual sensor should be safe and sound underneath a scratched piece of glass.
08/10/2006 01:42:11 AM · #48
I've used the scotch tape method to clean mine also, and it worked fine. Once I got a little fingerprint, or piece of crap, or something on the sensor from the tape, and I was about to be pissed if it didn't come off the next time around, but luckily it did. :)

There's a glass screen over the sensor, so it's not like the tape will pull up the little photosites or anything. And it's not the end of the world to replace the sensor, or upgrade to a new camera a little early if you screw it up.
08/10/2006 04:27:50 AM · #49
Originally posted by ergo:

Some reading...


Definitely nails my feelings on the subject...

Originally posted by ergo's link:


These instructions are written by a Professional Camera Repairman, Curt Fargo, and Camera Repairs most published author, Larry Lyells

Originally posted by ergo's link:


Scotch Tape - Use the sticky tape to remove unwanted dust.

* Pros: Tape is real cheap.
* Cons: You might get that piece of dust, but what about all that adhesive goo left behind. Not only no, but heck no!
08/10/2006 07:22:38 AM · #50
[quote=kenskid] Where would I get the filter and how does one replace it?

[quote=EricMGB1974]

Go to the link to //www.lifepixel.com and click on the DIY tutorials section. It will have a section on disassembly of a number of cameras, including the D70, to get to the filter over the sensor for replacement. It's not for the faint of heart, but is doable if you're reasonably careful. That particular site only offers either IR or clear filters for sale, but if you Google something like, D70 hot mirror filter, I'm sure you should be able to find one to substitute in the instructions for the IR filter.
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