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08/08/2006 04:00:08 PM · #1
So, in my research it appears that a 300D is about the worst body you can choose for IR photography. Is this what other people have found?
08/08/2006 04:08:07 PM · #2
Yes, but it can be done with long exposures. On the plus side the canon 50mm 1.8 lens you have is one of the best for ir as it shows no hot spot.

08/08/2006 04:09:51 PM · #3
but you need to get rid of something inside the camera to be able to do IR, right?
08/08/2006 04:11:07 PM · #4
I think that was just with the early Canons like the D60.
08/08/2006 04:12:14 PM · #5
What? You haven't bought your 5D yet?

I know it's popular here at DPC, but the whole IR thing should be treated like a circular fish eye lens - used sparingly, lest it becomes trite.

That said, I am going to try some IR myself.
08/08/2006 04:14:35 PM · #6
Originally posted by cryan:

I think that was just with the early Canons like the D60.


you mean the thing you had to get rid of?
08/08/2006 04:15:54 PM · #7
This is likely a dumb question but having seen a number of IR images in the Zen category I was wondering..

Is IR photography done via a special lens that attaches to the camera body or is it simply a filter thingie you put on similar to a polarizer?

I too have a Rebel and like the IR effect and would love to see what I can create with it, but being of limited funds I figured I'd ask if it was a full on lens or more of an accessory filter which *might* make it doable.
08/08/2006 04:18:07 PM · #8
Originally posted by biteme:

but you need to get rid of something inside the camera to be able to do IR, right?


How to remove hot mirror filter to make your 300D a full time IR enabled camera.
08/08/2006 04:20:33 PM · #9
Originally posted by faidoi:

Originally posted by biteme:

but you need to get rid of something inside the camera to be able to do IR, right?


How to remove hot mirror filter to make your 300D a full time IR enabled camera.


that is NOT gonna happen. At all!
08/08/2006 04:21:28 PM · #10
Originally posted by LucidLotus:

This is likely a dumb question but having seen a number of IR images in the Zen category I was wondering..

Is IR photography done via a special lens that attaches to the camera body or is it simply a filter thingie you put on similar to a polarizer?

I too have a Rebel and like the IR effect and would love to see what I can create with it, but being of limited funds I figured I'd ask if it was a full on lens or more of an accessory filter which *might* make it doable.


All you need is a screw on filter, but with longer exposure times. Some cameras like can do it handheld without longer exposure. Convert your camera to full time IR will let you take handheld shots. There's a filter in the camera that filters out some of the IR, which would need to be removed and replaced.
08/08/2006 04:22:20 PM · #11
Originally posted by faidoi:

Originally posted by biteme:

but you need to get rid of something inside the camera to be able to do IR, right?


How to remove hot mirror filter to make your 300D a full time IR enabled camera.


Oh. dear.

Hey Doc, let me know if you do this tutorial. Looks easy breezy to me!
08/08/2006 04:22:50 PM · #12
Originally posted by biteme:

Originally posted by faidoi:

Originally posted by biteme:

but you need to get rid of something inside the camera to be able to do IR, right?


How to remove hot mirror filter to make your 300D a full time IR enabled camera.


that is NOT gonna happen. At all!


I was thinking about buying a *ist DL and doing it. Body was selling pretty cheap .
08/08/2006 04:24:43 PM · #13
well if I wanted to do this with my Rebel, I'd have to let it fixed first. costs 150 euros, and then screw it up. nah. don't think so ;-)
08/08/2006 04:25:05 PM · #14
Other camera tutorials there also.

Message edited by author 2006-08-08 16:25:16.
08/08/2006 04:26:11 PM · #15
Originally posted by biteme:

well if I wanted to do this with my Rebel, I'd have to let it fixed first. costs 150 euros, and then screw it up. nah. don't think so ;-)


Of course doing this voids your warranty .
08/08/2006 04:27:01 PM · #16
Ya, I'm not removing anything from my 300D. Even if I got to a 5D, the 300D is going to be reincarnated as the handle or something as I'll need to sell it to pay for the 5D.

OK, well, marbo gives me hope. 8S isn't the complete end of the world. Especially knowing it was ISO 200 and f9. I assume that was in full sunlight.

LucidLotus: yes it's just a filter and know-how...BUT the filter is a few hundred dollars. There's always a catch. ;)
08/08/2006 04:27:19 PM · #17
Shoot in IR so it looks 3D-ish.

08/08/2006 04:27:26 PM · #18
sorry man, I haven't shot with Canon since 1993. And that was and old F-1n. Gotta love the Navy's standards.
08/08/2006 04:29:07 PM · #19
Originally posted by cryan:

sorry man, I haven't shot with Canon since 1993. And that was and old F-1n. Gotta love the Navy's standards.


D70 tutorial with D200 tutorial coming soon.
08/08/2006 04:29:08 PM · #20
Originally posted by faidoi:

Originally posted by biteme:

well if I wanted to do this with my Rebel, I'd have to let it fixed first. costs 150 euros, and then screw it up. nah. don't think so ;-)


Of course doing this voids your warranty .


warranty is allready gone. but i dont think it's worth the 150 euros to screw up the cam.
08/08/2006 04:29:16 PM · #21
I was able to get my filter for about 75 USD from B&H. DOn't feel bad about long exposures, mine usually start around 30sec.

Message edited by author 2006-08-08 16:30:24.
08/08/2006 04:43:33 PM · #22
Cokin came out with a IR filter. I believe it was under $75. I've only used it once. The trick is post processing.
08/08/2006 04:47:41 PM · #23
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

OK, well, marbo gives me hope. 8S isn't the complete end of the world. Especially knowing it was ISO 200 and f9. I assume that was in full sunlight.


on my d70, i can usually do full sunlight shots in under 2 seconds


2 sec @ f/10 iso 200


1.3 sec @ f/11 iso 200


2 sec @ f/11 iso 200


1.3 sec @ f/9 iso 400

as for ir being overdone? the last 3 in top 6 images... ;)

ETA : all w/ the hoya r72 for my kit lens (67mm) $75 @ adorama...

Message edited by author 2006-08-08 16:48:28.
08/08/2006 05:01:29 PM · #24
I think my Canon G3 does a pretty good job. I used the hoya r72 filter. It just takes time to get used to it. All my shots are shot around 4 or 5 pm on a sunny day.



08/08/2006 05:04:51 PM · #25
Originally posted by kudzu:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

OK, well, marbo gives me hope. 8S isn't the complete end of the world. Especially knowing it was ISO 200 and f9. I assume that was in full sunlight.


on my d70, i can usually do full sunlight shots in under 2 seconds


2 sec @ f/10 iso 200


1.3 sec @ f/11 iso 200


2 sec @ f/11 iso 200


1.3 sec @ f/9 iso 400

as for ir being overdone? the last 3 in top 6 images... ;)

ETA : all w/ the hoya r72 for my kit lens (67mm) $75 @ adorama...


Question on your exposures,

The F-stop numbers, is that a result of the filter blocking out most of the visible light, or is the physical f-stop F9 and F11?

If so, what ahppens if you shot at F4?

Thanks! As for the overdone remark (mine I think) I really like the effect, but a I think it can be used as a method to save an otherwise not too interesting shot. Just MHO. I like the ones you posted here, especially the one in the moving car.

Pictures of glasses and water drops have been done to death too, but that hasn't stopped me from giving them a try!
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