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08/04/2006 11:09:28 AM · #801 |
Originally posted by LoudDog:
Steve is not the serial shooter. That is not even a consideration. Steve would never do that and the arrest was made hours ago. We would have been notified/contacted by now.
Steve left his house on his own free will Sunday, has not returned to the house (to the best of our knowledge), and was spotted in AJ on the 30th sleeping on the side of the road. We do not know what his mental condition is. We know he is missing, we are pretty sure there is no foul play involved, we are concerned about him, and we want to find him ASAP. |
i certainly wasnt bringing it up for THAT reason...just for the car...that maybe his car had been stolen.
Thats all.
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08/04/2006 11:12:45 AM · #802 |
| A late model Toyota Camry was towed not a Honda Accord. |
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08/04/2006 11:19:02 AM · #803 |
| I was not implying that Steve was one of the men apprehended - I just meniotned what I saw on Fox News tv. They showed a silver car on a flatbed trailer being towed away, and two men, one with light hair and one with dfarker hair being taken into the police station. At 1:00 EST they will be holding a press conference. As was already mentioned here - the car could have been stolen from Steve if it were the same model |
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08/04/2006 11:19:37 AM · #804 |
I hate to shake the same rug twice. But Ive been thinking about this again.
Why didn't the cops wake him up when they seen him sleeping in the back seat of the car. I fully understand that it is common for people to sleep on the side of the road. And in normal situations the police will check to make sure they are breathing and leave them alone. But when you have two serial killers running around the area capping people left and right. I think it would be in the best interest of the police to investigate every single person they find out of place. At least get a name ?
I am not trying to take anything away from the police there. But it doesn't seem to me that they were looking very hard for the shooters or they would have checked the ID of every person they found sleeping in a car the past year and they would have done so religiously, This makes me wonder about how hard they would look for someone who has gone mission but is not wanted for a crime.
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08/04/2006 11:43:53 AM · #805 |
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
I hate to shake the same rug twice. But Ive been thinking about this again.
Why didn't the cops wake him up when they seen him sleeping in the back seat of the car. I fully understand that it is common for people to sleep on the side of the road. And in normal situations the police will check to make sure they are breathing and leave them alone. But when you have two serial killers running around the area capping people left and right. I think it would be in the best interest of the police to investigate every single person they find out of place. At least get a name ?
I am not trying to take anything away from the police there. But it doesn't seem to me that they were looking very hard for the shooters or they would have checked the ID of every person they found sleeping in a car the past year and they would have done so religiously, This makes me wonder about how hard they would look for someone who has gone mission but is not wanted for a crime. |
My worlds oldest friend here in Phoenix is a Maricopa county Sheriffs Detective and I speak with him daily in regards to whats going on.
I assure you the law enforcement in Arizona is doing everything in their power to help find Steve!
And in regards to the waking Steve up that has been addressed many times earlier in this post. This is not the Cops fault.
Message edited by author 2006-08-04 11:44:49. |
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08/04/2006 11:45:13 AM · #806 |
I have just spoken with my neighbor down the street he is a County Sheriff's Deputy also happens to be the Crime Scene Photographer for the Department.
He has a very good friend with the FBI in Milwaukee. He is going to contact him this afternoon and find out if the search has been extended in to this part of the country he is also going to get word out to all the other guys on his shift tonight. He said as long as the info is in the FBI system he will be able to get print outs of all the information from there. Irony here, They were looking for a Silver Honda last night that was involved in a hit and run. But it had Minnesota plates and was located.
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08/04/2006 11:50:35 AM · #807 |
May I suggest to post about Steve's disparition in the DPChallenge weekly update email that many members are subscribed to?
I know that it was not created for this, but I think that everyone would understand.
I'd suggest to talk about Steve at the beginning of the mail, as several people are likely to not read the usual DPC mail to the end. It would also be very nice if it would include a link to the flier:
//www.securitymonster.com/Family/steve/SteveMissingflier.pdf |
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08/04/2006 11:55:34 AM · #808 |
I think they would want to know who every single person is when they have 2 guys running around shooting people. Like I said I am not trying to take anything away from the police I am just wondering why they wouldn't investigate further. My neighbor whom I just talked to and mentioned in previous post said he always ID's people sleeping in cars unless it is in a designated state or county owned rest stop. It is Dept Policy. If it is believed that a dangerous suspect is in the area, They do the meanest thing at the rest areas and wake everyone up check ID's appologize for the interuptions and move on, He said most people do not mind being alerted of the situation and appreciate the heads up. And on one occassion they woke up a guy who was wanted for 2 armed robberies in Chicago. So it pays to investigate.
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
I hate to shake the same rug twice. But Ive been thinking about this again.
Why didn't the cops wake him up when they seen him sleeping in the back seat of the car. I fully understand that it is common for people to sleep on the side of the road. And in normal situations the police will check to make sure they are breathing and leave them alone. But when you have two serial killers running around the area capping people left and right. I think it would be in the best interest of the police to investigate every single person they find out of place. At least get a name ?
I am not trying to take anything away from the police there. But it doesn't seem to me that they were looking very hard for the shooters or they would have checked the ID of every person they found sleeping in a car the past year and they would have done so religiously, This makes me wonder about how hard they would look for someone who has gone mission but is not wanted for a crime. |
My worlds oldest friend here in Phoenix is a Maricopa county Sheriffs Detective and I speak with him daily in regards to whats going on.
I assure you the law enforcement in Arizona is doing everything in their power to help find Steve!
And in regards to the waking Steve up that has been addressed many times earlier in this post. This is not the Cops fault. |
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08/04/2006 11:58:04 AM · #809 |
Originally posted by Gabriel:
May I suggest to post about Steve's disparition in the DPChallenge weekly update email that many members are subscribed to? ... |
I don't believe that's active. I've only ever rec'd one and that was over 18 months ago...nice thought thou. |
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08/04/2006 12:00:42 PM · #810 |
You prob just have it disabled in your preferences because it does get sent out every week.
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by Gabriel:
May I suggest to post about Steve's disparition in the DPChallenge weekly update email that many members are subscribed to? ... |
I don't believe that's active. I've only ever rec'd one and that was over 18 months ago...nice thought thou. |
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08/04/2006 12:00:48 PM · #811 |
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
I think they would want to know who every single person is when they have 2 guys running around shooting people. Like I said I am not trying to take anything away from the police I am just wondering why they wouldn't investigate further. My neighbor whom I just talked to and mentioned in previous post said he always ID's people sleeping in cars unless it is in a designated state or county owned rest stop. It is Dept Policy. If it is believed that a dangerous suspect is in the area, They do the meanest thing at the rest areas and wake everyone up check ID's appologize for the interuptions and move on, He said most people do not mind being alerted of the situation and appreciate the heads up. And on one occassion they woke up a guy who was wanted for 2 armed robberies in Chicago. So it pays to investigate.
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
I hate to shake the same rug twice. But Ive been thinking about this again.
Why didn't the cops wake him up when they seen him sleeping in the back seat of the car. I fully understand that it is common for people to sleep on the side of the road. And in normal situations the police will check to make sure they are breathing and leave them alone. But when you have two serial killers running around the area capping people left and right. I think it would be in the best interest of the police to investigate every single person they find out of place. At least get a name ?
I am not trying to take anything away from the police there. But it doesn't seem to me that they were looking very hard for the shooters or they would have checked the ID of every person they found sleeping in a car the past year and they would have done so religiously, This makes me wonder about how hard they would look for someone who has gone mission but is not wanted for a crime. |
My worlds oldest friend here in Phoenix is a Maricopa county Sheriffs Detective and I speak with him daily in regards to whats going on.
I assure you the law enforcement in Arizona is doing everything in their power to help find Steve!
And in regards to the waking Steve up that has been addressed many times earlier in this post. This is not the Cops fault. |
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I understand your frustration. But again this is not the cops fault. If you read back in this post, Daryl has explained many times why the cops did not wake him and that they did confirm it was him.
Message edited by author 2006-08-04 12:01:45. |
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08/04/2006 12:03:55 PM · #812 |
Originally posted by Bugzeye:
You prob just have it disabled in your preferences because it does get sent out every week.
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by Gabriel:
May I suggest to post about Steve's disparition in the DPChallenge weekly update email that many members are subscribed to? ... |
I don't believe that's active. I've only ever rec'd one and that was over 18 months ago...nice thought thou. |
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Oops! You're right. It's the Seller's Corner for DPCPrints that I have selected that isn't an active item anymore. Sorry for the sidetrack. |
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08/04/2006 12:10:01 PM · #813 |
| The thought of Steve being the serial shooter never even crossed my mind. Why would anyone think that? |
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08/04/2006 12:11:34 PM · #814 |
I'd like to make a small reminder here. As this process continues, ideas are going to be rehashed, and tempers are going to fray. Please, please by all means post your support and your ideas.
Just remember two things.
1) This isn't about your ego (that's ANY of our EGOS)
2) The result we are ALL after is finding Steve safely.
If your posts do not help forward those ends- I beg you to reconsider your post. This is NOT a situation that needs to devolve into a shouting match. The folks on the ground in AZ and Steve's close friends are under a lot of stress. We all need to work to help them stay focused.
With that said- I'm gonna practice what I preach. I've submitted a ticket asking if we can add the Steve info to the Weekly Challenge Update.
I would again like to tell Steve's friends and family that you guys are in my thoughts. In particular Tina, Daryl, and the others who've donated time and energy to the search. You guys have been amazing. Steve is incredibly lucky to have friends like you. |
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08/04/2006 12:24:51 PM · #815 |
I hope no one read what I said the wrong way, I was in no way suggesting that Steve is one of the shooters. What I doing is asking why., when 2 people are going around shooting people, Why the police would not be interested in who the guy in the back seat was. I would only hope that they check everyone out til the shooters are caught, Even if it is just Steve taking a nap. You get my point now?
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08/04/2006 12:32:07 PM · #816 |
Changing the subject. I've been on the phone with USbank and the IRS. In order to establish a bank account that will not be taxed, we need a tax ID# as a charitable organization. If not, all funds will be reported as income--not cool or fair since the money isn't O's fun money! My God, his father is missing!
Does anyone have any info about how long this takes? I want funds available for my nephew ASAP. I just can't hold for the IRS for 12 hours! I have two very young children!!! JEEZ!
BTW--I don't think anyone here was saying that Steve was capable of crime--his car just matched the description. Remember, plates can come off and be exchanged. It happens in crime ALL THE TIME! Enough said on that topic.
I'm waiting on the paypal account, it should be accessible today.
Jennifer (family) |
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08/04/2006 12:32:48 PM · #817 |
Originally posted by LoudDog:
Update: I received a call saying Steve's car was called by a Pinal County Sheriff officer about 2am on the 30th by an officer that normally works the gold canyon area. Upon receiving the news I left work and headed out there because I know some areas he likes out there. After checking one spot I saw two PCSO officers and stopped and talked. Long story short, they figured out which officer called it in, contacted him, and it turns out the officer saw Steve's car with a person matching his description sleeping inside. Yes they verified he was breathing. This is a great place to take a nap, and I guess a lot of people nap there, so the officers don't wake people up. We went by the same area and there was no car there. We are going back out there tonight to see if he returns.
It is a great spot for photography and lightening shots, but it's only a guess that's why he was there.
THe only thing we know, Someone matching steve's description was sleeping in a car at 2am on the 30th. It's great news, but it brings up more questions. He has not been found or contacted.
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The BAD GUYS are running around downtown Phoenix not gold canyon.
Message edited by author 2006-08-04 12:33:59. |
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08/04/2006 12:45:40 PM · #818 |
Originally posted by sammigurl:
The thought of Steve being the serial shooter never even crossed my mind. Why would anyone think that? |
I just wanted to be clear in case anyone did think that was a possibility.
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08/04/2006 02:23:44 PM · #819 |
bump and positive thoughts to all
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08/04/2006 02:23:52 PM · #820 |
Originally posted by 2xmomma:
Changing the subject. I've been on the phone with USbank and the IRS. In order to establish a bank account that will not be taxed, we need a tax ID# as a charitable organization. If not, all funds will be reported as income--not cool or fair since the money isn't O's fun money! My God, his father is missing!
Does anyone have any info about how long this takes? I want funds available for my nephew ASAP. I just can't hold for the IRS for 12 hours! I have two very young children!!! JEEZ!
BTW--I don't think anyone here was saying that Steve was capable of crime--his car just matched the description. Remember, plates can come off and be exchanged. It happens in crime ALL THE TIME! Enough said on that topic.
I'm waiting on the paypal account, it should be accessible today.
Jennifer (family) |
I don't know if this would be possible, but, do you belong to a church? I think they have tax free numbers, and, if a fund could be established through your church (or a church), maybe that would be a solution. But I do not know if that's possible or not.
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08/04/2006 02:31:01 PM · #821 |
| If you use a PayPal account and then transfer the money into your checking account......so long as it's not an astronomical amount, whos gonna know? I would call PayPal and see if they can waive the fees for when we send money. |
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08/04/2006 02:39:11 PM · #822 |
I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who jumped to help out last night when I couldn't. I had e-mailed Daryl at the same time I posted here...
Also you can be gifted up to $50,000 a year (I think that's the amount?) without paying tax on it. You do have to claim it on your taxes but that's no biggie. |
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08/04/2006 03:00:55 PM · #823 |
Doing the hump d bump
Edit to add: red hot chilli peppers song.
Message edited by author 2006-08-04 15:01:51.
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08/04/2006 03:19:16 PM · #824 |
Just wanted to let everybody know that the Myspace page is getting alot of activity. I have a personal account and have something like 2,000 hits or views of my page in a years time, Steve's Missing page has only been up for a week and its over 1,800 hits/views!
Keep passing the word around, post bulletins about him missing, let anybody you can know about him. Emails, Flyers, Myspace Bulletins, Talking on the phone, etc....
We are going to find him!!!! |
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08/04/2006 03:24:21 PM · #825 |
I know ya'll are talking about getting the money together for a plane/helicopter search for Steve... has anyone thought about contacting the Civil Air Patrol in Arizona to see if they would help?
link
I don't know if they volunteer for searches like this, but if they don't, it couldn't hurt to contact them and ask them to keep an eye out if they run any training missions.
Just a thought...
*edit to add - those of you posting flyers, don't forget that truck stops are really good places to get information out and to possibly recruit truck drivers who might have more of a chance to spot Steve's car, as they're constantly on the road...
Message edited by author 2006-08-04 15:28:25.
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