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07/28/2006 07:08:15 PM · #1
I never really knew what the restraints were for a newspaper photog, but the Charlotte Observer must not like PS.

Read the article here.
07/28/2006 07:11:14 PM · #2
Hey they told him once. He should have gotten the message.
07/28/2006 07:15:00 PM · #3
He already had a warning and specific rules were written about his previous warning. I would have fired him.
07/28/2006 07:42:09 PM · #4
Stripped of 3 awards, reprimanded and suspended for 3 days, 3 years ago. Didn't he get the message? Curious though, how did the paper find out?
07/28/2006 07:44:25 PM · #5
From the linked article - "digital editing -- the equivalent of dodging and burning in traditional darkroom printing"

Pretty simplistic view of photo editing.
07/28/2006 07:47:07 PM · #6
LOL. He got fired for Rikkizing the photo? :P
07/28/2006 07:47:49 PM · #7
Originally posted by yanko:

LOL. He got fired for Rikkizing the photo? :P


:-)
07/28/2006 08:35:15 PM · #8
Originally posted by MrEd:

Curious though, how did the paper find out?


they have our site council in staff. : P

seriously, i think there was someone there that knows photography and doubted that an image like that, especially with the sun in the frame, could be pulled off with minimal editing. then, the editor(s) probably just asked what editing he used.

Message edited by author 2006-07-28 20:35:28.
07/28/2006 09:12:43 PM · #9
how unfortunate for him, but hey, maybe he's created a job opening for someone who can follow simple guidelines ;-)

the daily i string for makes it real simple: if it doesn't look like it really looked in real life, it gets credited as a "photo illustration". this is especially used for any studio shots.
07/28/2006 09:26:01 PM · #10
According to Thames' editor's note, "Schneider said he did not intend to mislead readers, only to restore the actual color of the sky. He said the color was lost when he underexposed the photo to offset the glare of the sun."

Sounds alot like he's been hanging out here...I wonder what his user name is.

07/28/2006 09:29:33 PM · #11
Here's an interesting discussion of the 2003 incidents from a photographer's point of view, including before-and-after versions of the 3 images in question:

//zonezero.com/editorial/octubre03/october.html

R.
07/28/2006 09:38:08 PM · #12
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Here's an interesting discussion of the 2003 incidents from a photographer's point of view, including before-and-after versions of the 3 images in question:

//zonezero.com/editorial/octubre03/october.html

R.


Thank's Bear! Good read.

This made me LOL

"Liddy says background details such as parking lots, fences and people were taken out of the pictures by using the digital equivalent of "hand of God" burns"

:-P

Message edited by author 2006-07-28 21:38:24.
07/28/2006 09:39:22 PM · #13


Message edited by author 2006-07-28 21:41:08.
07/28/2006 09:40:20 PM · #14
Originally posted by jaded_youth:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Here's an interesting discussion of the 2003 incidents from a photographer's point of view, including before-and-after versions of the 3 images in question:

//zonezero.com/editorial/octubre03/october.html

R.


I understand rules and the fact that he should have listened to thier warnings before but those first three IMO do not mislead the viewer.


Sorry was loged into my wife's account those are my words not hers.
07/28/2006 09:40:32 PM · #15
I'm interviewing him this weekend for next year's resurrection of the DPCEnquirer. We are a little more tolerant of editing over there.
07/28/2006 09:48:52 PM · #16
Looks like the writer of the story sould be fired for the sub-headline:

"Three years after a reprimand for going to far in digitally altering a photo, Patrick Schneider did it again. This time it cost him his job."

Shouldn't that be "TOO" far? Sheesh.

Oh, and later in the story:

"The photo that cost Schneider his job depicts a firefighter on a latter,"

Isn't that a "LADDER?"

Message edited by author 2006-07-28 21:51:20.
07/28/2006 09:51:41 PM · #17
Does anyone have any doubt that the photographs had only a little to do with the overall "truth" of what was going to happen in Iraq? Apparently six moths after the invasion of Iraq, the US public has now had to discover that their "heroic welcoming" imagery were mostly photo-ops set up by the military establishment. Have all those photographers who took those historically altered images, been fired?

Exactly my thoughts...this poor guy is being held to standards higher than we hold our world leaders!!!

That picture of the fireman against the sun - how is he lying to me? Is that in fact Mars behind him? Is the fireman in reality his elderly grandmother posing for him?

Like I advised Jimmie, perhaps they should only allow the camera obscura.
07/28/2006 09:54:07 PM · #18
Originally posted by annasense:

Looks like the writer of the story sould be fired for the sub-headline:


:-)
07/28/2006 10:00:53 PM · #19
Originally posted by annasense:

"The photo that cost Schneider his job depicts a firefighter on a latter,"

Isn't that a "LADDER?"

You're correct, it's the latter.
07/28/2006 10:01:31 PM · #20
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by annasense:

"The photo that cost Schneider his job depicts a firefighter on a latter,"

Isn't that a "LADDER?"

You're correct, it's the latter.


:)
07/28/2006 10:02:41 PM · #21
Originally posted by annasense:

Looks like the writer of the story sould be fired for the sub-headline

I think the writer was worried about doing any editing of his original article.
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