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07/21/2006 11:00:48 AM · #1 |
The first test shots with my new lens shows quite a bit of light fall-off.
Is this effect more or less normal? Or should I ship the lens back for an exchange while I still can?
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07/21/2006 11:05:17 AM · #2 |
Heads up on the image links. The hosting site uses pop-unders.
What exactly is light fall-off? How can you tell that you are seeing it by looking at the images you've posted? |
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07/21/2006 04:22:40 PM · #3 |
Are those at the wide end on the kit lens? You didn't mention which lens/focal length they were at. Also the apeture you're shooting at can make a difference, wide open (smallest apeture number) you'll get more falloff than you do at smaller apetures.
Some falloff / Vignetting is pretty common on consumer/kit lenses at the wider end of their range, and sometimes still present at the long end.
The falloff dosn't look too bad in the shceme of thinks in those two you posted, you'd only notice it if you always take photos of weatherboard or brick walls. In real-world photos I'd say that amount of fall off would be difficult to notice without enhancing it using PS etc.
Cheers, Me. |
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07/21/2006 04:26:55 PM · #4 |
I'm not seeing significant fall-off to warrant any concern in real-world situations.
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07/21/2006 11:26:01 PM · #5 |
| Those shots were taken with Nikon 70-200 AFS VR at medium focal lengths and f/2.8 aperture; the effect reduces significantly as I increase the stops. I'm only concerned because I actually rented this lens a few weeks ago, and that one NEVER produced falloff. |
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07/21/2006 11:30:45 PM · #6 |
| It seems ok to me and can be fixed pretty easily in post. Besides, How often do you take pics of flat white walls in the wild? :-) |
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07/22/2006 02:23:20 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by peterish: Those shots were taken with Nikon 70-200 AFS VR at medium focal lengths and f/2.8 aperture; the effect reduces significantly as I increase the stops. I'm only concerned because I actually rented this lens a few weeks ago, and that one NEVER produced falloff. |
Is that a full frame lens? I'm surprised one of the high end lenses (particularly in that focal length) would produce any fall-off.
Given you've spent a bit of money on it, it's up to you on the return issue... Did you buy it online, or a bricks'n'mortar shop? |
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07/22/2006 04:38:01 AM · #8 |
Edited.
Tried the first one now, I see what you mean. Return it if you are not satisfied. No flash or other artificial light source involved?
For others: Here is an extreme contrast/saturation/gamma edit to show what is meant.
I wonder how big the role of the sun as a point source of light and the scattering of that light on the wall could be. You can also see this indoors with a single lightbulb or spot, the power intensity of the light drops off quite dramatically. I suggest you try this test again on an overcast day or on a shadow wall to rule this out.
Message edited by author 2006-07-22 04:52:11.
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07/22/2006 10:10:23 AM · #9 |
My tests shots were taken on an overcast day so the sun's angle played no role. The falloff effect can be detected even when shooting a complex subject, not just a white wall.
It was purchased from the very reputable buydig.com, so exchange shouldn't be too much of a hassel. Has anyone had experience with this particular issue dealing with buydig? |
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07/22/2006 10:14:51 AM · #10 |
| Do you have any filters on the lens? Do you have the lens hood on? Have you tried taking everything off the from of the lens and shooting? |
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07/22/2006 10:57:18 AM · #11 |
"Filter?" was my first question as well. There should be no detectable fall-off on a tele-zoom, especially one with as great a reputation as the Nikon 70-200/2.8
Edit: $*@^&@*!! pop-ups...
Message edited by author 2006-07-22 10:58:09. |
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07/22/2006 11:19:19 AM · #12 |
Sorry about the popups >_<
No filters, no nothing. |
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07/22/2006 11:24:40 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Azrifel: I wonder how big the role of the sun as a point source of light and the scattering of that light on the wall could be. You can also see this indoors with a single lightbulb or spot, the power intensity of the light drops off quite dramatically. I suggest you try this test again on an overcast day or on a shadow wall to rule this out. |
Huh?
No offense dude, but this makes no sense.
Light fall-off from single light sources is usually due to either a directionalization (spot lighting) or when the light is very small and the distance from the light at the closest point to the subject is different than the distance to the light at points that are farther away from the light source for an omnidirectional light.
This absolutely must be directly related to a ratio. The difference in distances compared to the total distance from the light source would be a set of extremely crucial data.
Last time I checked, the sun was not a spotlight, it was an omnidirectional light source that is VERY far away. Comparing the ratio of the distance from the sun to the far side of the wall compared to the distance from the sun to the closest part of the wall to the sun is probably going to find a decimal with more zeroes than letters in this post.
If there was noticeable light falloff in that situation, then the sun would become noticeably brighter after you walked just a few blocks.. Places at the equator would be a few dozen stops brighter than places at the poles.
yeah, I'm just making that part of the math up, but it's probably not far off...
Shadow is a totally different thing from light fall-off.
Now having said that, light falloff is a rather natural thing for digital cameras. You can either correct it or leave it alone... You can read up on it on DPReview and a few other sites.
I would still probably take the lens in if they were willing to give it a quick lookover...
Message edited by author 2006-07-22 11:25:19. |
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