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07/19/2006 03:42:44 PM · #76

That was actually exactly what that photo looked like. Some may call it art. I was just trying to be funny because I had no idea what the heck i was looking at...

edited to say PS, I am sorry if I offended you. But honestly I could take a photo much like yours at the dinner table tonight. It wasn't a rip on your picture just telling you what I thought it looked like.

Originally posted by laurielblack:

Originally posted by Bugzeye:
...But when I get comments like thats cute or this made me laugh , or my favorite one made about a photo of my 4 year old daughter, "Her expression just freaks me out" ... I do not find those to be helpful in any way. Those are the comments I usually dismiss because they are normally made by people who dont submit to the challenges.

...interesting...kind of like the comment I got from you on one of my current entries that said "this looks like my 4 year old daughters plate at the end of dinner." I can't decide if it is really helpful or not in the context of helping me become a better photographer.

Message edited by author 2006-07-19 15:46:48.

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

07/19/2006 04:08:06 PM · #77

Without looking at the picture in question...

Since helpfulness is the issue, wouldn't it be better to say "it looks like not a lot of effort was put into this shot"? Just as you want to be taught by others, there are things you can teach as well, even if you don't think you have enough experience or whatever.

Elvis_L

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

07/19/2006 04:22:19 PM · #78

I will admit that sometimes I may get a harsh comment and look at a person profile and think "what do they know" but in reality they know alot. If the only people I want to please art great photographers then I will only value thier opinion, but since I want to sell prints and have people enjoy my work that are maybe not great photographers thier opinions matter alot. If many people think it is stupid then maybe it is. I will say that I think the DPC voter is pretty harsh but it makes me strive to do better. I honestly thought my perspective photo was super BADASS but over 30 people thought it was below average and that holds some weight.

As far as some no camera vote only people, I have seen a few that had been participators on the site but lost or broke thier camera so don't assume they do't know what they are talking about. Also DAX has never won a ribbon but if she left a comment about proccesing and I didn't take it to heart I would be missing a huge learning chance. (she is just one exapmle of many great photogs that have not won here)

07/19/2006 04:26:06 PM · #79

The picture in question is actually a nice photo as are most in that challenge. It maybe have taken a long time to set up the shot. I don't know so I can't really say anything about it. I am not a professional only a hobbiest. So I don't feel right giving out advice. but if I see something that reminds me of something or a photo of a place I think I may have been I will comment about that.

the comment in question was not about her photo rather than what it reminded me of or what i thought it looked like. It's an abstract. 100 people prob saw something different.

Originally posted by klstover:

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

07/19/2006 04:28:16 PM · #80

That is very much not my point.

C-Fox

Canon EOS-20D

07/19/2006 04:29:05 PM · #81

Hmm, what about a button that lets you hide your current entry till the end of a challenge? Hide the left hand thumbnail I mean? That way the don't get the constant reminder of what you did, but everything else applies.

07/19/2006 04:33:37 PM · #82

A couple of rhetorical questions, and then I'm done with this thread:

If you believe that non-professionals don't have anything helpful to offer,why should you be upset about people going through entries quickly, leaving short or unhelpful or no comments? Maybe they come from someone who is also not a professional, or has other reasons why they don't consider themselves to be a person who can make valid critiques. Sure, you could look at their comments made and see that maybe some of their comments are more helpful critiques, but as for you and what they said about your entry, there really is no difference.

and

If you're not a good enough photographer to make useful comments then how do you know that "for once [you] have a nice photo"?

07/19/2006 04:36:58 PM · #83

I didnt say the dont have anything helpful to say? I said that I do not find comments like thats cute or thats funny to be very helpful as far as tuning my skills , I would rather get advice from someone who knows it all instead of from someone like my self who still is learning it all. not sure what the big deal is. 2 comments got taken out of context and then snowballed. Now everyone is all mad at me because I just want to learn more about my hobby.

That wasn't even why spoke in this thread. I spoke because I think the voting system needs to be tweaked.

I am done with this thread now before I make anymore enemies.

Originally posted by klstover:

Message edited by author 2006-07-19 16:49:07.

07/19/2006 04:47:42 PM · #84

Okay, so I had to come back to add something.

Just wanted to make it clear, Bugzeye - I think your attitude that you expressed in your profile bio is a good one... it is obvious that you do not want to hurt feelings with your comments while still being honest, and that is a very good goal. So even though I disagree with you on some of the details, I want you to know that I do admire your main idea.