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 07/13/2006 12:32:33 AM · #1
DPC has created more challenges to tackle the growing submission numbers.
How about an alternative - go back to 2 challenges (1 member, 1 open) but reduce the time from 7 days to 4 days? A trial-run may be good.
 07/13/2006 12:37:55 AM · #2
Originally posted by crayon:
DPC has created more challenges to tackle the growing submission numbers.
How about an alternative - go back to 2 challenges (1 member, 1 open) but reduce the time from 7 days to 4 days? A trial-run may be good.


Not a bad idea, but those of us who need to wait until weekends will be left out. With work and a family, I have to schedule around those things and I end up doing most of my pictures on weekends.
 07/13/2006 12:43:55 AM · #3
Yeah I work all week I hardly find the time to do the ones now.. let alone cutting them back
 07/13/2006 12:46:08 AM · #4
This would play havoc to the WPL so I say no. :P

Actually, it sounds like an interesting idea. However, I'd rather see more challenges offered not less to fix the problem.
 07/13/2006 12:46:28 AM · #5
Need time off to shoot
 07/13/2006 12:49:20 AM · #6
you guys got a point.
But does creating more and more challenges to cater for the growing submissions a good solution long-term?

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Message edited by author 2006-07-13 00:51:17.
 07/13/2006 12:51:39 AM · #7
Originally posted by crayon:
you guys got a point.
But does creating more and more challenges to cater for the growing submissions a good solution long-term?


Sure from my perspective it is progress!

:-P
 07/13/2006 12:53:53 AM · #8
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Originally posted by crayon:
you guys got a point.
But does creating more and more challenges to cater for the growing submissions a good solution long-term?


Sure from my perspective it is progress! :-P


why dont we just have 2 members challenges, and 3 open challenges then? :p
The mainpage can be full of images each week after rollover too.
Kill 2 birds with 1 stone?
 07/13/2006 12:54:55 AM · #9
Originally posted by crayon:
you guys got a point.
But does creating more and more challenges to cater for the growing submissions a good solution long-term?


Well from a SC standpoint I would agree having more choices would be more work for them however, it would be the better solution in terms of the photographers and the voters. I'd much rather have more choices on what to shoot or what to vote on then less. For example, I would never think about voting on 100% of a challenge if it had 1000 entries in it especially if it was a challenge like Green IV but I would vote on a 1000 entries if it were broken into different challenge themes.
 07/13/2006 12:59:23 AM · #10
Originally posted by yanko:
I'd much rather have more choices on what to shoot or what to vote on then less. For example, I would never think about voting on 100% of a challenge if it had 1000 entries in it especially if it was a challenge like Green IV but I would vote on a 1000 entries if it were broken into different challenge themes.


Your post above gave me an idea - how about creating a policy where, the person must vote on 50% of the photos in the challenge topic that he/she has submitted to? The punishment would be a DQ at the end of the voting period. Sweet Nazi? hehehe

edit: typo

Message edited by author 2006-07-13 00:59:51.
 07/13/2006 01:01:45 AM · #11
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by yanko:
I'd much rather have more choices on what to shoot or what to vote on then less. For example, I would never think about voting on 100% of a challenge if it had 1000 entries in it especially if it was a challenge like Green IV but I would vote on a 1000 entries if it were broken into different challenge themes.


Your post above gave me an idea - how about creating a policy where, the person must vote on 50% of the photos in the challenge topic that he/she has submitted to? The punishment would be a DQ at the end of the voting period. Sweet Nazi? hehehe

edit: typo


talk about a way to create trolls. It's a lot easier to hit 1 over and over again than actually look at the pictures. Forced voting would lead to quick voting.
 07/13/2006 01:24:16 AM · #12
Add one challenge and then decrease the voting time to 4 days instead of a week. The extra challenges can be scheduled to fill in the time. I know it's more difficult to schedule but do we really need a week to vote. Maybe a week to take the photos but not vote.
 07/13/2006 01:34:23 AM · #13
Originally posted by Megatherian:
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by yanko:
I'd much rather have more choices on what to shoot or what to vote on then less. For example, I would never think about voting on 100% of a challenge if it had 1000 entries in it especially if it was a challenge like Green IV but I would vote on a 1000 entries if it were broken into different challenge themes.


Your post above gave me an idea - how about creating a policy where, the person must vote on 50% of the photos in the challenge topic that he/she has submitted to? The punishment would be a DQ at the end of the voting period. Sweet Nazi? hehehe

edit: typo


talk about a way to create trolls. It's a lot easier to hit 1 over and over again than actually look at the pictures. Forced voting would lead to quick voting.


I agree I don't like that idea. Frankly I'd rather see a rule that stated you CAN'T vote on a challenge your in. I've never understood why people who are competing against each other is allowed to vote on each other's pics but that's another subject altogether.
 07/13/2006 01:39:18 AM · #14
Bah! I want a challenge-a-day for a month!
07/13/2006 02:22:09 AM · #15
Originally posted by idnic:
Bah! I want a challenge-a-day for a month!


I bet lexi and your daughter may disagree. :P
 07/13/2006 02:23:47 AM · #16
let's just keep it this way.

normally it takes me a couple of days to get the idea all worked out, and after that I need to find the time to shoot..
 07/13/2006 02:24:01 AM · #17
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by idnic:
Bah! I want a challenge-a-day for a month!


I bet lexi and your daughter may disagree. :P


Yeah, but they like being fed..... ;)
 07/13/2006 02:58:39 AM · #18
Originally posted by PhantomEWO:
Add one challenge and then decrease the voting time to 4 days instead of a week. The extra challenges can be scheduled to fill in the time. I know it's more difficult to schedule but do we really need a week to vote. Maybe a week to take the photos but not vote.


Yeah, I find waiting for the voting to end is painfully long :p
 07/13/2006 03:58:52 AM · #19
Oh I know. We stop voting whenever my score gets over a 7? Woot. Lets do that!
 07/13/2006 04:09:20 AM · #20
Originally posted by yanko:
Oh I know. We stop voting whenever my score gets over a 7? Woot. Lets do that!

sometimes after the very first vote would be good enough - some crazy 1st voter gave me a 10 once :p (but of course, it went downhill after that)
 07/13/2006 04:19:12 AM · #21
Originally posted by mad_brewer:
Originally posted by crayon:
DPC has created more challenges to tackle the growing submission numbers.
How about an alternative - go back to 2 challenges (1 member, 1 open) but reduce the time from 7 days to 4 days? A trial-run may be good.


Not a bad idea, but those of us who need to wait until weekends will be left out. With work and a family, I have to schedule around those things and I end up doing most of my pictures on weekends.

There would be the same number of challenges available on the weekend as there are now if a 4 day cycle was adopted.
 07/13/2006 04:44:03 AM · #22
One Member and One Open challenge with less time. Hummm, the only way I could see it happening is like this:

Members Challenge:
Submission Days: SAT-SUN-MON-TUE
Voting Days: WED-THU-FRI
Results and New Challenge: Friday Midnight (better known as rollover)

Open Challenge:
Submission Days: THU-FRI-SAT-SUN
Voting Days: MON-TUE-WED
Results and New Challenge: Wednesday Midnight (better known as rollover)

Both Member and Open challenges would have the weekend to shoot and both are voting at different times except the overlap on Wed.

Message edited by author 2006-07-13 04:46:27.
 07/13/2006 05:03:08 AM · #23
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:
One Member and One Open challenge with less time. Hummm, the only way I could see it happening is like this:

Members Challenge:
Submission Days: SAT-SUN-MON-TUE
Voting Days: WED-THU-FRI
Results and New Challenge: Friday Midnight (better known as rollover)

Open Challenge:
Submission Days: THU-FRI-SAT-SUN
Voting Days: MON-TUE-WED
Results and New Challenge: Wednesday Midnight (better known as rollover)

Both Member and Open challenges would have the weekend to shoot and both are voting at different times except the overlap on Wed.


Say, that might work pretty well.
Whether or not it will solve the initial issue on too many submissions, we'll have to try-run and see. But good idea.
 07/13/2006 06:18:08 AM · #24
I think it should stay just the way it is. I do need a week to vote, because I can only look at dp on a daily basis for maybe 20 minutes to an hour. Since I take usually more than 15 secs to look at a pic and vote on several points, I do need more time. I am not swift at this because I believe that if someone took the time to take a pic for a challenge, they are entitled to more than a brief glance from me.
We can also self monitor. For instance, as fun as this all is, we can choose not to enter. If you see the entries swelling, as much as you want to enter, maybe you should let it be, or choose one that isn't as popular.
The reality is that overall, the amounts of entries in each challenge hasn't grown substantially since I started. They usually always had between 200 and 500 entries, and they still do. There are more challenges, which makes it seem that there are more, and yes there are, but based on how many I used to vote on, I still vote on only one or two, just as I did last year. I had to place controls for myself in order to keep with my schedule.

Message edited by author 2006-07-13 06:37:15.
 07/13/2006 09:04:25 AM · #25
Originally posted by yanko:
I agree I don't like that idea. Frankly I'd rather see a rule that stated you CAN'T vote on a challenge your in. I've never understood why people who are competing against each other is allowed to vote on each other's pics but that's another subject altogether.


The problem with this is who would vote in member challenges?

I think it's entirely possible to remain objective and if you're entered, you at least have a pretty good idea of what the challenge is about to begin with. I vote 100% of those I enter and usually end up thinking my shot wasn't as good as I thought when I entered. In addition, it helps me understand WHY it isn't as good as I thought, which helps mitigate the "why is this only a 5.3?" question in my mind.

And if you don't vote in member challenges, you're missing out, in my opinion. Generally speaking (generalization, not a hard rule!) member challenges tend to be a bit higher in quality than some of the open challenges. Sure, you can flip through the thumbnails to see what's there, but if you vote, you tend to look a bit longer (at least I do!)
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