Abstract Food? - DPChallenge Forums

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

07/10/2006 11:16:54 AM · #29

Try this to get your juices flowing :)

Jaded_Housewife

Canon EOS-5D

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

07/10/2006 11:19:40 AM · #30

do things like the previously posted photos or that last link to the faces really count as abstract? is it abstract if you can tell what foods were used to make up the photo?

Message edited by author 2006-07-10 11:19:54.

alfresco

Nikon D700

07/10/2006 11:48:54 AM · #31

Originally posted by jaded_youth:

do things like the previously posted photos or that last link to the faces really count as abstract? is it abstract if you can tell what foods were used to make up the photo?

I would rather it had been called "Creative Food" rather than abstract. Seems the last abstract challenge there was a lot of flack for photos being ... abstract! ;)

That is neither here nor there though. Abstract food ... hmmmm ... cindi, can I borrow Lexi? Please.

bfox2

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

07/10/2006 11:53:51 AM · #32

Originally posted by jaded_youth:

do things like the previously posted photos or that last link to the faces really count as abstract? is it abstract if you can tell what foods were used to make up the photo?

If its so abstract that you can't tell what food it is (or that it is food at all) it'll probably score a 4.something

Elvis_L

Quantaray AF 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6 High-Speed for Nikon

07/10/2006 12:22:30 PM · #33

to me abstract means that you can't tell what it really is, so shouldn't it not be identifiable as food?

maestro

Nikon D50

07/10/2006 02:43:20 PM · #34

Abstract is really..

Having an intellectual and affective artistic content that depends solely on intrinsic form rather than on narrative content or pictorial representation: abstract painting and sculpture.

Intrinsic: Of or relating to the essential nature of a thing.

Do you really think I am that intelligent? :) Got it from the dictionary but it's just as abstract as the word. lol.

I think the meaning really is to photograph something (in this case a food) in a way that you would not normally take a photo of it. Not straight on and obvious but take it and give it an interesting mood, feel, or look and it is an abstract. Whether you can recognize it or not really doesn't matter in my opinion.

If you look in the abstract section here in the browse section you will see things you can recognize but that are abstract. As for food, for example, in the abstract section, you will notice a photo of a kiwi slice against a white background. The slice is in the far corner of the shot. That is abstract because it is not the usual way you would photograph a kiwi if you just wanted to show someone what a slice of it looked like. (Does that make sense? lol) You can still tell its a slice of kiwi though. There are others that are all slices of kiwi in the entire shot.

Abstract is more of a feel or a mood and sometimes shows movement and flow. It is less of a literal and pictorial representation of the actual item.

I was the first one in! I thought I might be. I had many ideas last night and decided to bang off a few of them this morning. As usual I didn't end up using any of my original ideas as more ideas came to me while I was shooting. :) It always seems to happen to me that way for some reason.

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Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

07/10/2006 02:48:13 PM · #35

This entry from "Textures III" would probably qualify as "Abstract Food"...

maestro

Nikon D50

Quantaray AF 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6 High-Speed for Nikon

07/10/2006 02:53:56 PM · #36

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

This entry from "Textures III" would probably qualify as "Abstract Food"...

R.

I think so to because it is showing not so much the actual pictorial representation of the item but is focused more on the texture of it. It also works as a pictorial item shot to. It works both ways. I don't think it would score as high for an abstract but it is one in my opinion.

Jutilda

Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro for Canon

07/10/2006 06:13:20 PM · #37

I predict lots of macros. ;~P

and Judi- I want the leftover marshmallows. (if there are any after alfresco gets finished) ;~D

Judi

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

07/10/2006 06:15:31 PM · #38

Originally posted by Jutilda:

I predict lots of macros. ;~P

and Judi- I want the leftover marshmallows. (if there are any after alfresco gets finished) ;~D

Hehehe...no problem Judy....do you want yours in a Hot Chocolate...or straight! (BTW...I will hide some from Alfresco hehehehe)

Techo

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

07/12/2006 12:58:40 AM · #39

I have ideas floating around and really like food photography, but trying to grasp the abstract part of it. First image to come to mind is the food splash cliche, be it in milk , water tank, etc. is that abstract?

hanneke

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

07/12/2006 07:30:35 AM · #40

I bought the props, and I think this is the most expensive shoot I've ever had ;-)

Hope to shoot it tonight..

maestro

Nikon D50

Quantaray AF 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6 High-Speed for Nikon

07/12/2006 09:04:11 AM · #41

Originally posted by biteme:

I bought the props, and I think this is the most expensive shoot I've ever had ;-)

Hope to shoot it tonight..

For once mine didn't cost nuttin. lol. I can't judge abstracts to good so it will probably bring a nuttin score to. :)

PurpleFire

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

07/12/2006 02:02:39 PM · #42

Now I've done mine, and without saying too much, the key to my entry is the absence of food. Food was there, but now it's not. Will that get caned by the DNMC trolls?

What do you think?

violinist123

Canon EOS-6D

07/12/2006 02:10:58 PM · #43

Originally posted by iainmorrison111:

Now I've done mine, and without saying too much, the key to my entry is the absence of food. Food was there, but now it's not. Will that get caned by the DNMC trolls?

What do you think?

"Use food"

Why would you consider someone a troll for saying hmm, there's no food in a challenge where the desc said 'use food'.

PurpleFire

07/12/2006 03:19:39 PM · #44

Originally posted by routerguy666:

Originally posted by iainmorrison111:
Now I've done mine, and without saying too much, the key to my entry is the absence of food. Food was there, but now it's not. Will that get caned by the DNMC trolls?

What do you think?

"Use food"

Why would you consider someone a troll for saying hmm, there's no food in a challenge where the desc said 'use food'.

OKAY, that is an annoyingly fair point.

I think the abstract voters will vote down photo's that are 'nice food photos'.

The 'use food' voters will vote down photo's that are 'too abstract, is that food?, what is that??! photos'.

And somewhere in that vendiagram will be section for the top ten entries!

Anyway, I like, I may re-shooot it, but I'll see.

ralph

Nikon Z9

07/12/2006 03:30:38 PM · #45

Originally posted by routerguy666:

define "food" -
it is edible:
so is a block of wood food ? (termites & sawbugs)
bale of hay ? (live stock)
compost ? (worms & beatles )
road kill / effluent ? (flys & all maner of icky things ..)

but is it abstract ?

yanko