CS lighter than other software & DPC website

07/04/2006 07:17:11 PM · #1

I recently discovered that the images I'm looking at/working with in CS are lighter (less contrast?) than this website, Canon's Dig.Ph.Pro, Canon's zoom browser, Paint Shop Pro, Micro Image composer. You can actually go to my profile page and view them side by side and see the difference!

This is the screen capture inside CS. Even with screen capture saved to Paint shop pro, it is easy to see the definition in the clouds in the top right. You can also see a clear difference in the color of the sky.

This is the picture I prepared in CS, then uploaded to the website.

Has anyone experienced this or can recommendations be made. It's more than a little frustrating.

FYI, I've got a fully legal version of CS, however I don't have the disk, as I quit the company where I got the disk to load on my computer. So this is it. Do I need to download CS2? I calibrated my monitor earlier today, using recommendations from another thread. But it's got to be software related.

Please help & THANKS to all - this is an incredible community.
Josh

07/04/2006 07:21:57 PM · #2

What colourspace are you using in PS?

07/04/2006 07:26:55 PM · #3

SRGB

07/04/2006 07:32:09 PM · #4

What is the proofing setting?

Under view/proof setup select Monitor RGB (or custom to select the monitor profile)
Under view select proof colors

Does this make a difference?

07/04/2006 07:43:07 PM · #5

LOL!!! That was it.

It was in "working CMYK". I changed it to monitor rgb, then custom. I closed the picture and it went back to working cmyk. I opened another and had to change the setting again.

Can I save those settings? Can you educate me a little on the questions you asked?

Thanks,
Josh

07/04/2006 07:52:29 PM · #6

Colorspace dictates how wide the colour range is. Adobe RGB 1998 is a wider colorspace than sRGB so if you were working in that there would be a difference if the other programs were using sRGB.

Proof colours simulate the medium on which you are viewing the image. You can simulate what your printer will produce by choosing custom and the printer profile.

Most of the time if doing images for web choose either Windows or Mac RGB depending on the computer you're using.

As far as saving the setting, I haven't run into the problem you're having. I just set it and it sticks.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.4G

07/04/2006 07:57:43 PM · #7

Thanks for your help Colette!

breadfan35

Nikon D3

07/04/2006 07:58:54 PM · #8

Good info. I think I was having this problem too.

wimbello

Canon EOS-10D

Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC HSM for Canon

07/04/2006 08:19:40 PM · #9

Originally posted by naplesmusc:

Can you educate me a little on the questions you asked?

I can recommend Bruce Frasers book, Real World Color Management, for all things colour.

(stupid american spelling)

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

07/04/2006 08:29:25 PM · #10

Also, Color Confidence by George Lepp.

Artifacts

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

07/05/2006 02:27:17 AM · #11

Originally posted by naplesmusc:

The way to permanently change your "proof setup" setting is to make the change when all documents are closed. You can't have any documents open when setting the "Proof Setup" default.

But that isn't your real problem. You will still have to select "Proof Colors" every time you open a new document in order to get it to display like other applications. That is not right. You should never have to select "proof setup" for your own monitor. PS should do that by default with "proof colors" turned off. Yours doesn't. Yours, somehow has a default different from your monitor and that is why it doesn't display right. How it gets that way, though, is a mystery.

The only purpose of the "Proof Colors" and "Proof Setup" combination is be able to display on your local monitor what something will look like on a DIFFERENT device, usually a printer. Normally you should never have to pay any attention to them at all unless you are printing.

People have reported this problem numerous times on the Net. The situation is they have to soft proof their own monitor on every image to get a proper display and they ask people how to fix it, but no one seems to have a good solution.

I suspect this is caused by some other settings either inside or outside PS.

One suggestion is to check the monitor itself outside PS...
On a blank area of your desktop right click and select "Properties" from the drop down menu to display your monitor properties. Then click the "Settings" tab and click the "Advanced" button you see in the dialog box. Then click the "Color Management" tab. If the current selection you see there is not for the monitor you are using then that is the problem. Fix it. But that can be a whole adventure in and of itself. :)

Tajhad

Canon EOS R

Canon RF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS USM

07/05/2006 03:35:24 AM · #12

You have just solved a problem I wasn't even aware of. Mine too was set to CMYK - I've changed it to monitor RGB.
But what about printing ? I use a canon S820 but it isn't listed in the "custom" list ? (Every other canon attached to this computer is - but not the S820)

07/05/2006 09:50:40 AM · #13

Thanks Steve, More great info.

PS. Another thanks for your teachings in the landscape learning thread.

07/05/2006 10:39:22 AM · #14

Originally posted by Tajhad:

You have to load the profile for your printer using the load button in the custom window. Once it's loaded you can save it in the same place as others (optional). If you do choose to save then it will be listed in the proof setup menu and you don't have to go to custom.

07/06/2006 03:08:24 PM · #15

As this site becomes more and more addicting (I'm probably already there), I'm starting to form some goals.

Near the top of the list is that I'd like to make a calendar - a really good one! Since those pics will be printed (not on my crappy little home printer), should I work on those pics in CMYK?

Thanks,
Josh

07/06/2006 03:23:16 PM · #16

Originally posted by naplesmusc:

Depends on where they'll be printed. A lot of places expect sRGB.