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07/04/2006 09:59:16 PM · #1
I've not found anything about this online and I must have just passed right over it in Canon's docs but I read in my 30D manual that when I shot using the Pic Style monochrome in RAW format I can convert the images to color in Photoshop. Well, that's not a problem. As soon as Adobe Bridge interacts with the .CR2 file it immediately converts the image to color for me so that I can't easily tell which images I shot in B&W and which I shot in color. If I shoot in JPG then I don't have that problem 'cause PS CS2 can't convert those to color but I'm still left in the lurch for my RAW shot as B&W. Anyone know how to stop Bridge from automatically converting these RAW files as soon as it takes a gander at 'em?

BTW, I set Adobe Camera Raw default behavior to not manipulate images but to leave them with the original settings but this seems to be acting flaky with some of the 30D's pic styles.

Thanks,

Kev
07/04/2006 10:08:56 PM · #2
I wonder if the picture style is ignored in RAW, like the parameter sets are ignored. It could be that only once the image is loaded into ACR will it show as B & W. Nothing in Bridge help seems to reference this.

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07/04/2006 10:54:34 PM · #3
I've been playing with that on the 30D - I shoot RAW + sm jpeg. The jpeg turns out in the desired style, but the RAW is, well, RAW. Adobe Bridge doesn't even recognize the style on the jpeg, though, and lists everything as "Standard". I haven't tried opening the files using the software provided with the camera - I wonder how that handles it?

I also wonder if the "style" is ONLY applied to the accompanying jpeg, and not applied to the RAW file at all? Anyone know that answer?
07/04/2006 11:22:44 PM · #4
RAW is RAW, nothing added or taken away. To make it B&W would be processing and therefore would no longer be RAW. The Filters, parameter, setting etc etc only change the way the in-camera processing changes the RAW into a JPG. If you set it up to take RAW +JPG then you get the unaltered - unprocessed RAW plus the JPG that will be processed IAW the filters, parameters and setting you select.
07/04/2006 11:29:15 PM · #5
Originally posted by PhantomEWO:

RAW is RAW, nothing added or taken away. To make it B&W would be processing and therefore would no longer be RAW. The Filters, parameter, setting etc etc only change the way the in-camera processing changes the RAW into a JPG. If you set it up to take RAW +JPG then you get the unaltered - unprocessed RAW plus the JPG that will be processed IAW the filters, parameters and setting you select.


That's what I was hoping was happening. Some shots I have from this evening are a tad on the grainy side and I wondered if it was from shooting "monochrome" with slightly amped contrast... since it wasn't I'll have to assume it was the highish ISO and a bit of overexposure.
07/05/2006 12:18:59 AM · #6
This is why you should use canon software for RAW conversion. I don't understand why some people won't use third party lenses but will use free software and other thrid party software to convert the files!

On the 30D, 5D and 1D mk2 n canon has introduced picture styles. If you shoot JPG, then the camera processes the image to the settings in that style. YOu can tweak the styles for sharpness, saturation, etc.

I don't know what bridge or ACR do - i don't use them. I use Canon's DPP - the preferred choice for RAW conversion as it gives you the most options and is not some reverse engineered solution.

You shoot in the picturre style of your choise and when you convert that RAW file you get those parameters. You can teak them, or even change picture styles, even download more picture styles from Canon.

So you shoot b&w in RAW. DO nothing, and you get b&w JPGs from DPP. BUT the power is in the fact you can also make this same image color, or use the different color filters for b&w, convert using any picture style you like.

Canon's free tutorials
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