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 06/19/2006 10:06:57 PM · #1
I want one. got any suggesions? anyone have one? I don't have A LOT of money for one, but I am trying to run a business and having outlook with me all the time would really help. Any experiances, good or bad? I need the phone to be good, but also keep myself organized on the run. I've looked at the treo, and a starcom ppc6700 on ebay. I have alltel if that matters. I know this isn't photography related, but you folks are my support structure, so I know you can help out.

drake
 06/19/2006 10:12:40 PM · #2
PM me. I am a district manager for alltel. I can give you some good advice since I have used every one of our phones and am currently using the new blackberry.
BTW thanks for the business:)

Message edited by author 2006-06-19 22:13:06.
 06/19/2006 10:19:39 PM · #3
I loves my Treo 650. I does. ;)
 06/19/2006 10:53:13 PM · #4
My experience with the Blackberry is that it is a great organizer but an average phone. The email, browser, and memo features are great, but frequently the phone reception inside a building can be shaky at best. The first generation was a terrible phone. The newer generation is better. It is also very dependent on where you live. I have had very good experience with reception in Charlotte, Dallas, Atlanta, and Boston. Unfortunately, my experience with my home base (Jacksonville) has been so-so.
 06/19/2006 10:55:08 PM · #5
I looked at the blackberry home page and it says nothing about web browsing? can they do that? which model do you have? is the 7250 any good?

drake
 06/19/2006 10:59:20 PM · #6
I have the 7290, through Cingular.

I use the browser on a regular basis. DPC is one of my regular bookmarks :) It has its limitations, and you have to decide which sites are worth the bother (the form-factor doesn't lend itself well to some), but it is still quite useful.

The weather channel, national hurricane center (I'm in Florida), and a few of the news sites have sites specifically designed for the handheld. The national movie chains also are hand-held enabled. I find it very helpful when verifying movie start times while at dinner.

Message edited by author 2006-06-19 23:01:27.
 06/19/2006 11:00:36 PM · #7
I'd go with the Windows Mobile machines - find them the most versatile for my needs.
 06/19/2006 11:07:12 PM · #8
hmm... windows mobile machines... I haven't heard of that. I'll google it. I have seen quite a few of the treo 650's, are those pretty cool?

drake
 06/19/2006 11:14:02 PM · #9
Originally posted by fstopopen:
hmm... windows mobile machines... I haven't heard of that. I'll google it.

A quick reference here,
directly from Microsoft's website on the windows mobile machines.
 06/19/2006 11:24:15 PM · #10
My Treo 600 took a dump today :-( But I love the my Treo

The newTreo 700w runs windows mobile

and

Treo 700p runs the palm os
 06/19/2006 11:46:20 PM · #11
I have a Treo 650 and just love it .. it does all I want/need it to do and then some with few issues (Verizon) Maybe one day I'll upgrade but not anytime soon.
 06/20/2006 12:29:05 AM · #12
why is windows mobile better?
06/20/2006 12:43:19 AM · #13
Originally posted by fstopopen:
why is windows mobile better?

It's not. It crashes just like regular old windows...

To answer your PM questions: "do you use your 650 for mp3 playback? does it work pretty well? what is your favorite feature? Most of the online stuff makes the phones look pretty similar. Tell me how you chose yours."

I have used the MP3 player. you have to have a special plug to use head phones or listen to it mono from the phone. The only reason that I currently don't use it is because in an emergency I formated my 512MB card to use in my camera and haven't copied the music back to it.

I waited 5 years for this phone to come out and I've had it 1.5 now. I hated carrying around a cell and a palm which Is why I wanted this one. I didn't want the 600 because it lacked a good screen and bleutooth.

The best thing about the Treo is the software you can load on it. One thing that people are amazed by is that I have programmed my phone to turn off during certain hours (no more 4AM wrong numbers) and turn the ringer to vibrate during the hours my calendar says I am at work.(TreoHelper and Profiles)
 06/20/2006 12:49:43 AM · #14
Business and technical press give the Treo very good marks, better than most popular competitors. I have had one for several years and it works very well for me. Virtually industructable except don't immerse it in water. (Long story) Long talk time and standby time. Small form factor. Lots of memory. Good access and content security in case of loss. Good email and text messaging features. Nice calendar and contacts. Easy to synch to a PC. Treo now offers a Palm and a Windows version if you're evangelical about such things.

Message edited by author 2006-06-20 01:06:27.
 06/20/2006 12:50:19 AM · #15
Originally posted by fstopopen:
why is windows mobile better?

It is not "better" because each phone/platform has it's own benefits.
I love the windows mobile especially for the few things listed below:
- easy and complete synchronization between my phone and Outlook at work (I can sync direct with my exchange server through VPN too!)
- lots of 3rd party applications written specially for the phone, messaging features (eg, filtering of calls, msg)
- strong handwriting recognition built-in (there are 3rd party ones too)
- accept almost all the common file formats that I'm using on my desktop windows machine (I think Palm only accepts PRC and PDB formats? not sure)
- and finally, my personal taste, but all the Windows Mobile devices look a lot more interesting and stylish.
- WiFi and VPN (truly life safer, can control my desktop remotely!)

Top 5 PDA-phones listed on CNET

Message edited by author 2006-06-20 00:57:58.
 06/20/2006 12:55:34 AM · #16
I got the 600 cuz the 650 wasn̢۪t out yet. But I feel a 700 in my future. Palm has all those things crayon and it is a competitor for windows, which is always a good thing.

:-P

Message edited by author 2006-06-20 00:56:06.
 06/20/2006 01:03:52 AM · #17
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Palm has all those things crayon and it is a competitor for windows, which is always a good thing.

I used a few Palm machines, from the PalmIIIxe up to the Sony CLie's, until Sony stopped making Palm devices - then I jumped ship to WindowsMobile (it was called PocketPC back then) and never looked back. I guess I haven't found a reason to switch back to Palm, yet. I'm highly familiar with PalmOS up to version 4.x and only played with OS5 in shops. I have used WindowsMobile since WinCE3.x and my personal preference stands at WindowsMobile for now :) Yes, I know the Palm does all those I listed, but does it really do VPN and remote desktop control too? These are the ones I haven't got a chance to try.
 06/20/2006 01:04:50 AM · #18
Originally posted by crayon:
but does it really do VPN and remote desktop control too? These are the ones I haven't got a chance to try.


Yup even SSH for Unix/Linux
 06/20/2006 01:06:44 AM · #19
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Originally posted by crayon:
but does it really do VPN and remote desktop control too? These are the ones I haven't got a chance to try.

Yup even SSH for Unix/Linux

cool - though I no longer administer UNIX machines at the current position. So have they also broken the PRC-PDB barrier? I remembered all those painstaking moments converting files into PRC... ah those were the days.
 06/20/2006 04:05:21 PM · #20
I've got a Treo 650. Its a great combined device, but not as good as the best cellphone I've used.

Cons:
1. The sound quality from the 650 is average or worse.
2. the form factor is not as good as other phones
3. the screen is smaller than other palms (but is 320x320)
4. sometimes I will terminate a call because my cheek brushed the touch screen
5. tends to reset a lot, but I have a ton of applications and a 1GB memory card.
6. MP3 player has to use wired headphones, no bluetooth option

Pros:
1. sound quality is great with a wired headset. (The original treo bluetooth headset is not so good.)
2. small size = more portable than cellphone + PDA.
3. good battery life & replaceable battery. The replaceable battery is important when the battery ages and starts to fail.
4. screen is bright and crisp
5. camera is (I think) 640x480 and (for what it is) is great in bright light, ok in poor light.
6. I think you can get a sereo headset with mic, so you don't have to channge headsets when interupting your MP3 player to take a call.

Overall, I'm happy with it. If I had to get one today, I'd get the Treo 700P (the next generation of this phone).
06/20/2006 04:10:25 PM · #21
I don't know anything about the newest Blackberry model, but avoid the previous models at all costs! They are a royal pain in the butt to use (everything is controled by a single roller-dial and one button). Our flight department uses them and the pilots are constantly having issues with them. They also seem damage-prone. The new model may have fixed some of this, I don't know.

However, my father uses a Treo and really likes it. His still runs the Palm software, but he is talking of getting the new one that runs the Windows Mobile OS. Either way is probably an okay bet.
 06/20/2006 04:36:03 PM · #22
Originally posted by OdysseyF22:
I don't know anything about the newest Blackberry model, but avoid the previous models at all costs! They are a royal pain in the butt to use (everything is controled by a single roller-dial and one button). Our flight department uses them and the pilots are constantly having issues with them. They also seem damage-prone. The new model may have fixed some of this, I don't know.

However, my father uses a Treo and really likes it. His still runs the Palm software, but he is talking of getting the new one that runs the Windows Mobile OS. Either way is probably an okay bet.


i just recently got the Blackberry 8700C model, and i must say, it has simplyifided my life, its very easy to use, and its a great tool, my calendar is great and the email is even better.
06/20/2006 04:37:58 PM · #23
Originally posted by OdysseyF22:
I don't know anything about the newest Blackberry model, but avoid the previous models at all costs! They are a royal pain in the butt to use (everything is controled by a single roller-dial and one button). Our flight department uses them and the pilots are constantly having issues with them. They also seem damage-prone. The new model may have fixed some of this, I don't know.


100% agree. Just annoying to use. Had to position it just so to use as a phone otherwise you wouldn't even hear the caller. I accidentally hung up on dozens of people because of the annoying position of the roller button. The shape and construction weren't conducive to using as a phone. Very square and very slick. On the up side the keyboard was nicer than on the Treo 700w and my SO got very quick at using it. With my large hands though they are both a no-go. The built in camera on the Treo is just a POS, completely useless.
 06/21/2006 01:38:22 PM · #24
Originally posted by TechnoShroom:
The built in camera on the Treo is just a POS, completely useless.

Well, its not a DSLR, but its better than no camera at all. I'd call it a (low-end) P&S rather than a POS.
 06/21/2006 02:23:26 PM · #25
Originally posted by fstopopen:
I want one. got any suggesions? anyone have one? I don't have A LOT of money for one, but I am trying to run a business and having outlook with me all the time would really help. Any experiances, good or bad? I need the phone to be good, but also keep myself organized on the run. I've looked at the treo, and a starcom ppc6700 on ebay. I have alltel if that matters. I know this isn't photography related, but you folks are my support structure, so I know you can help out.

drake


Check out the HTC 6700

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