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 06/14/2006 01:26:27 AM · #1
This means nothing whatsoever, so that the challenge can be interpreted to mean a main subject in the background with something or other partially blocking the view around it.
 06/14/2006 01:36:44 AM · #2
I dont think I understand this?
 06/14/2006 01:40:54 AM · #3
Framed

Wrong link

Message edited by author 2006-06-14 01:42:11.
 06/14/2006 01:42:42 AM · #4
Could be used for framed but I think the OP means that the foreground is OOF with a subject in the background in focus. More specific than framed.
 06/14/2006 11:05:28 AM · #5
Originally posted by crayon:
I dont think I understand this?


Sorry, it's just me being frustrated that a challenge that specifically states:
"Capture an image where the foreground subject frames the rest of the image."
is interpreted with pictures in which the background subject is framed by the rest of the image.

As English is my first language, I have some trouble accepting its being no more than an international noise medium in which precision is to be avoided.

I shouldn't grumble though - the best pictures get the most votes and the challenge description is secondary.

Message edited by author 2006-06-14 11:10:24.
 06/14/2006 11:10:57 AM · #6
Originally posted by raish:
Originally posted by crayon:
I dont think I understand this?


Sorry, it's just me being frustrated that a challenge that specifically states:
"Capture an image where the foreground subject frames the rest of the image."
is interpreted with pictures in which the background subject is framed by the rest of the image.


Well as long as the framing object, subject or whatever it might be is in front of the object/subject it is framing, it's on topic to me. Because the framing object could be in the back framing an object as well, so the specific challenge description. Doesn't say nothing that the framing foreground should be OOF, it could be or not.

Message edited by author 2006-06-14 11:32:59.
 06/14/2006 11:11:14 AM · #7
Originally posted by raish:
Originally posted by crayon:
I dont think I understand this?


Sorry, it's just me being frustrated that a challenge that specifically states:
"Capture an image where the foreground subject frames the rest of the image."
is interpreted with pictures in which the background subject is framed by the rest of the image.


This is exactly why I didn't enter. I couldn't find a foreground subject I liked enough to frame a background. And I would have hated to compete against and vote on many images that I would feel didn't meet my idea of the challenge. I wanted to give photographers the benefit of the doubt so I just stayed away...
 06/14/2006 11:16:43 AM · #8
Techo and Dahkota, yer both making heaps of sense - :)
 06/14/2006 11:21:24 AM · #9
Originally posted by raish:
Techo and Dahkota, yer both making heaps of sense - :)


Well I hope you're just not being sarcastic there ;) LOL
Because I haven't eaten yet, need that brain food.
 06/14/2006 11:26:14 AM · #10
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Could be used for framed but I think the OP means that the foreground is OOF with a subject in the background in focus. More specific than framed.


I think that is an unfair interpretation of the challenge. No where in the description does it say that the foreground has to be out of focus. I think this is where alot of people get lower votes. People make assumptions about what the challenge means. I think when a challenge is specified it should be considered on it's most basic term unless you notice an out of the box photo. If my foreground is in focus and it frames the background subject I don't want a DNMC because the foreground is in focus..or a lower score.
 06/14/2006 11:35:07 AM · #11
Originally posted by albc28:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Could be used for framed but I think the OP means that the foreground is OOF with a subject in the background in focus. More specific than framed.


I think that is an unfair interpretation of the challenge. No where in the description does it say that the foreground has to be out of focus. I think this is where alot of people get lower votes. People make assumptions about what the challenge means. I think when a challenge is specified it should be considered on it's most basic term unless you notice an out of the box photo. If my foreground is in focus and it frames the background subject I don't want a DNMC because the foreground is in focus..or a lower score.


I concur, one the points I was trying to make in my post but you made that point much clearer :)

06/14/2006 11:35:34 AM · #12
Originally posted by albc28:
[i][quote=cpanaioti]
I think that is an unfair interpretation of the challenge. No where in the description does it say that the foreground has to be out of focus. I think this is where alot of people get lower votes. People make assumptions about what the challenge means. I think when a challenge is specified it should be considered on it's most basic term unless you notice an out of the box photo. If my foreground is in focus and it frames the background subject I don't want a DNMC because the foreground is in focus..or a lower score.


See, now I thought the foreground, since it is supposed to be the subject, should be in focus. Also, the description doesn't say anything about a background subject. It specifically states foreground subject. So, if I were voting, I would rate highly (barring technical issues) any image where the foreground subject frames a background. If the foreground wasn't the subject, I would rate it lower. And that is why I didn't enter nor will I vote.
 06/14/2006 11:44:59 AM · #13
Umm both the framing subject and subject being framed are in focus in mine... is that good or bad?

Message edited by author 2006-06-14 11:45:12.
 06/14/2006 12:07:41 PM · #14
Originally posted by brizmama:
Umm both the framing subject and subject being framed are in focus in mine... is that good or bad?

I would say it depends on the photo, what do you want to highlight and draw the eye to - both, one, the other, fg, bg.
 06/14/2006 12:09:30 PM · #15
I considered both elements important.
 06/14/2006 12:13:30 PM · #16
Doesn't say the framing foreground must be rectangular, circular, square, etc...either. ;^)
 06/14/2006 12:19:01 PM · #17
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Doesn't say the framing foreground must be rectangular, circular, square, etc...either. ;^)


Considering the past blue ribbon (when people who understood framing were voting), where it was none of the above.....
 06/14/2006 02:22:55 PM · #18
Originally posted by Techo:
Originally posted by raish:
Techo and Dahkota, yer both making heaps of sense - :)


Well I hope you're just not being sarcastic there ;) LOL
Because I haven't eaten yet, need that brain food.


No sarcasm.

Originally posted by albc28:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Could be used for framed but I think the OP means that the foreground is OOF with a subject in the background in focus. More specific than framed.

I think that is an unfair interpretation of the challenge. No where in the description does it say that the foreground has to be out of focus. I think this is where alot of people get lower votes. People make assumptions about what the challenge means. I think when a challenge is specified it should be considered on it's most basic term unless you notice an out of the box photo. If my foreground is in focus and it frames the background subject I don't want a DNMC because the foreground is in focus..or a lower score.


Yepp - nothing to do with focus. (Focus is as important as ever, but is not included in the challenge description).

Originally posted by brizmama:
Umm both the framing subject and subject being framed are in focus in mine... is that good or bad?


Good. That's my call anyway.
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