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 06/02/2006 04:27:55 PM · #1
So Sigma makes 2 different 70-200mm lenses; What are the differences?

Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX APO IF HSM for Nikon,
Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO IF for Nikon

AMAZON also lists two different lenses but the names are a bit off if you read the names closely:
Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX HSM for Nikon
Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 EX DG APO HSM for Nikon

FREDMIRANDA only has 1 lens listed
Sigma 70-200mm f2.8 EX APO IF HSM

I'd really appreciate it if someone could clear up the naming inconsistencies for me thanks.

Message edited by author 2006-06-07 21:32:14.
 06/02/2006 04:40:33 PM · #2
Yes Sigma makes 2 one with a Macro function and one without.

APO 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Without Macro

APO 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG MACRO HSM With Macro

Hope this helps.
 06/02/2006 05:24:03 PM · #3
thegrand, I think yours confused things more...

Here's how it goes...

The older sigma is the

70-200 f/2.8 EX APO IF HSM
The newer one is the

70-200 f/2.8 EX DG APO IF (although it's really a f/2.8 EX DG APO IF HSM)

The EX DG HSM is actually more important (as far as listing goes), I think it should be listed like that instead...they're all APO, and they're all HSM...but I think some people that bought the newer one are selecting the older one because it has HSM listed...and it's confusing people...

--

And as grandwazoo mentioned, the newer (listed here as 70-200 f/2.8 EX DG APO) is available in the following:

70-200 f/2.8 EX DG HSM APO
and
70-200 f/2.8 EX DG HSM APO - Macro

Hope that helps.
edit - typo

Message edited by author 2006-06-02 17:24:28.
 06/02/2006 05:37:11 PM · #4
oh ok that does make more sense. I just checked on Amazon again and the release date for the 1st link is 1973, and for the second link is 2005. So I guess the one released in 2005 is the one I should purchase?

And also, I searched around but couldn't find the Macro version on sale; does anyone know anything about this?
 06/02/2006 05:44:25 PM · #5
the macro version is a different lens all together. I'm assuming it's a replacement for the non Macro versions.
I have not seen it out either, sigma has a bad habit of "releasing" lenses without releasing date that they will become available.

If it was me, I'd either get a Nikon's version or wait for the macro version.

06/02/2006 05:57:53 PM · #6
lets add some more to this to clarify things a bit more.
the DG designation is used by sigma to indicate it is designed for digital SLR.
"This telephoto zoom lens has a large maximum aperture of f2.8 which remains constant throughout the zoom range and it is optimized for digital SLR cameras.
Two pieces of SLD (the special low dispersion) glass in the front lens group and another two in the rear group offer excellent correction of chromatic aberration. High optical performance is demonstrated throughout the entire zoom range."
From sigmas site. So basicaly it is the same lense just with some extra elements to help keep color straight on a dSLR and keep from having chromatic aberration which is a fancy way of saying that one or more colors being misalligned in the final image causing usually a bluish ghost image.

Message edited by author 2006-06-02 17:59:00.
 06/02/2006 06:10:45 PM · #7
Originally posted by nemesise1977:
lets add some more to this to clarify things a bit more.
the DG designation is used by sigma to indicate it is designed for digital SLR.


Seriously...if you don't know, please don't try and confuse people more. A "DC" lens is designed for digital... a DG lens is a special coating that is helpful for digital cameras -- that reduces ghosting and aberrations.

EDIT: note that a DG lens will still work fine with a 35mm SLR or 'full-frame' DSLR.

Message edited by author 2006-06-02 18:11:28.
 06/02/2006 06:17:20 PM · #8
Originally posted by deapee:
Originally posted by nemesise1977:
lets add some more to this to clarify things a bit more.
the DG designation is used by sigma to indicate it is designed for digital SLR.


Seriously...if you don't know, please don't try and confuse people more. A "DC" lens is designed for digital... a DG lens is a special coating that is helpful for digital cameras -- that reduces ghosting and aberrations.

EDIT: note that a DG lens will still work fine with a 35mm SLR or 'full-frame' DSLR.

Ok it is a DG not a "DC" and I do know what Im talking about. read from sigmas site
//www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/lenses_all_details.asp?id=3306&navigator=3

edit to add these defs from sigmas siste as well
"DG (DG Lens)
These are large-aperture lenses with wide angles and short minimum focusing distances. With an abundance of peripheral illumination, they are ideal lenses for Digital SLR Cameras whilst retaining suitability for traditional 35mm SLRs.
DC (DC Lens)
These are special lenses designed so that the image circle matches the smaller size of the image sensor of most digital SLR cameras. Their specialized design gives these lenses the ideal properties for digital cameras, the compact and lightweight construction is an added bonus ! including compact and lightweight construction."

Message edited by author 2006-06-02 18:22:16.
 06/02/2006 06:30:38 PM · #9
forgot to mention the DC are also for digital but only for non full frame cameras. Canon calls them short back(I think) where the image circle is smaller out the back so it acts more like the Regular 35mm equivilant at that focal length (I am sure Nikon has a similar concept but don't know for sure)

The DG is also made with digital photographers in mind but will work with any full framed camera. Such as a Canon d5 where a DC would not work well. Both are for Digital but DG are not digital only and a DC will not be good on Digitals with a full sensor.
 06/02/2006 07:53:28 PM · #10
The DG and the earlier non-DG are exactly the same lens (same dimensions, number of elements, etc) with the only difference being that the newer DG version has the intenal anti-reflective coatings to deal with the flare and ghosting that come as a result of light bouncing off of the shinyer-than-film front surface of a digital camera's sensor.


06/05/2006 06:30:33 PM · #11
Ok thanks for all the replies guys. Just one final question, which one would you prefer, this Sigma or the Nikon 80-200 non VR ?
 06/05/2006 07:06:51 PM · #12
NIKON without question. I have the 80-200 AF-S and you will have to pry it from my cold dead hands!

I would only consider trading up to the 70-200-VR but nothing else.
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