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05/28/2006 01:54:50 AM · #1 |
A comment here
says: "try this- image> adjustments> selective color> black channel add black"
Just want to make sure this type of thing is legal in advanced. Thanks! |
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05/28/2006 01:55:21 AM · #2 |
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05/28/2006 01:58:50 AM · #3 |
Unless I'm mistaken it is also legal in basic editing.
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05/28/2006 01:59:53 AM · #4 |
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05/28/2006 06:13:08 PM · #5 |
| Chanel mixer is legal too, right? |
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05/28/2006 06:15:02 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by klstover:
Chanel mixer is legal too, right? |
Yup. "Color adjustments" are pretty much all legal. |
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05/28/2006 06:18:09 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by klstover:
Chanel mixer is legal too, right? |
Yup. "Color adjustments" are pretty much all legal. |
...just as long as they are applied to the entire image (no layer masks) in normal blending mode. |
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05/28/2006 06:19:59 PM · #8 |
| What about using the lasso tool to select an area and then changing the color/contrast/brightness etc.? (in advanced that is) |
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05/28/2006 06:24:20 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by amandalore:
What about using the lasso tool to select an area and then changing the color/contrast/brightness etc.? (in advanced that is) |
Yeah, that's perfectly legal in advanced. BTW, that method is a bit harder than using layer masks.
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05/28/2006 06:26:14 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Raziel:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by klstover:
Chanel mixer is legal too, right? |
Yup. "Color adjustments" are pretty much all legal. |
...just as long as they are applied to the entire image (no layer masks) in normal blending mode. |
This is true only of Basic challenges.
Under the Advanced rules you are allowed to make a selection/create a mask and apply a color adjustment through that -- this is one of the major differences between the rule sets. |
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05/28/2006 06:27:26 PM · #11 |
| Hmmm... It's late at night and I seem to have left that out :) |
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05/28/2006 06:55:06 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Raziel:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by klstover:
Chanel mixer is legal too, right? |
Yup. "Color adjustments" are pretty much all legal. |
...just as long as they are applied to the entire image (no layer masks) in normal blending mode. |
This is true only of Basic challenges.
Under the Advanced rules you are allowed to make a selection/create a mask and apply a color adjustment through that -- this is one of the major differences between the rule sets. |
I used exactly these techniques on this photo (which I did not take) ... but I consider the eyes a major element so it would probably be DQ'd. The thumb's too small to see. You'll need to expand it. Sorry.
What do you think?
Message edited by author 2006-05-28 18:58:48. |
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05/28/2006 07:06:25 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by amandalore:
What about using the lasso tool to select an area and then changing the color/contrast/brightness etc.? (in advanced that is) |
Yeah, that's perfectly legal in advanced. BTW, that method is a bit harder than using layer masks. |
How would you use layer masks, say for a blown highlight you want to darken? cloning and healing leaving very ugly distinct lines for this particular photo, the blown highlights are very small areas. |
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05/28/2006 08:09:00 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Digital Quixote:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Raziel:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by klstover:
Chanel mixer is legal too, right? |
Yup. "Color adjustments" are pretty much all legal. |
...just as long as they are applied to the entire image (no layer masks) in normal blending mode. |
This is true only of Basic challenges.
Under the Advanced rules you are allowed to make a selection/create a mask and apply a color adjustment through that -- this is one of the major differences between the rule sets. |
I used exactly these techniques on this photo (which I did not take) ... but I consider the eyes a major element so it would probably be DQ'd. The thumb's too small to see. You'll need to expand it. Sorry.
What do you think?
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Probably right ... a DQ.
The problem, as I see it, is the division between the different colors of the eyes were not there (not likely anyway) in the original photo. Or to put it more generally, when the selection tool is used to select what you want to be there instead of what is already there, the result is most likely an addition of some element. Major or not, adding elements is not allowed.
David
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05/28/2006 09:57:58 PM · #15 |
I disagree...the way I see it, this shot would be legal. Let's say I select one of her eyes and "hue" it to purple. I leave the other alone...wouldn't this be legal in advanced?
Now...what if I selected one eye and "hued" it to purple and the other eye to yellow...wouldn't that be legal in advanced?
Now lets say I select have an eye and "hue" it to purple, and the other half to red. On the other eye, I "hue" have to green and the other half to "orange"...wouldn't this be legal in advanced?
If any of those above are illeagl..then the shot below is illegal...If my examples are legal then the shot below must be legal...I think !
I think the major element thing would come into play if say....I cloned one of the eyes up on her forehead...that is illegal in advanced...
Originally posted by David.C:
Chanel mixer is legal too, right? |
Yup. "Color adjustments" are pretty much all legal. [/quote]
...just as long as they are applied to the entire image (no layer masks) in normal blending mode. [/quote]
This is true only of Basic challenges.
Under the Advanced rules you are allowed to make a selection/create a mask and apply a color adjustment through that -- this is one of the major differences between the rule sets. [/quote]
I used exactly these techniques on this photo (which I did not take) ... but I consider the eyes a major element so it would probably be DQ'd. The thumb's too small to see. You'll need to expand it. Sorry.
What do you think?
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Probably right ... a DQ.
The problem, as I see it, is the division between the different colors of the eyes were not there (not likely anyway) in the original photo. Or to put it more generally, when the selection tool is used to select what you want to be there instead of what is already there, the result is most likely an addition of some element. Major or not, adding elements is not allowed.
David [/quote]
Message edited by author 2006-05-28 21:59:13. |
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06/01/2006 02:20:41 AM · #16 |
| Okay, another question: Are these actions (atncentral.com) legal in basic? I know this site has been talked about extensively but I want to make certain before I use the stuff for a challenge, and I couldn't find a clear-cut answer. Thanks. |
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06/01/2006 07:09:29 PM · #17 |
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06/01/2006 07:47:13 PM · #18 |
What you have posted are "actions" or "a lot of steps that you do with just the click of one button". It really depends on what is on each step. If one of the steps adds a layer and changes it to...lets say "overlay" instead of "normal", then you will get a DQ in basic.
I have several of those actions and I think the ones I have are not for "basic" editing.
You would have to "eyeball" each step of the action to be sure it was not doing something that is not allowed in "basic".
EDIT: - also...some of those actions may even get a DQ in advanced...depending on what it does.
KS
Originally posted by klstover:
Okay, another question: Are these actions (atncentral.com) legal in basic? I know this site has been talked about extensively but I want to make certain before I use the stuff for a challenge, and I couldn't find a clear-cut answer. Thanks. |
Message edited by author 2006-06-01 19:48:43. |
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06/01/2006 07:51:00 PM · #19 |
| I'm a beginner with photoshop so I'm not familiar with most of those, but I'd say on the whole, no. Most "special effects" are disallowed under basic. (but don't take my word for it, just thought this might help trigger an answer from someone who DOES know ;) ) |
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06/01/2006 07:56:00 PM · #20 |
| Okay, that makes so much sense. Thank you both for your helpfulness! |
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06/01/2006 07:56:47 PM · #21 |
It is not that it is a "special effect" as much as it is using "illegal" layers. Many of those actions place layer upon layer and change them from "normal" which is allowed to "overlay" "burn" etc..etc...this is what gets ya!
Originally posted by BeeCee:
I'm a beginner with photoshop so I'm not familiar with most of those, but I'd say on the whole, no. Most "special effects" are disallowed under basic. (but don't take my word for it, just thought this might help trigger an answer from someone who DOES know ;) ) |
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