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06/01/2006 06:51:16 PM · #1 |
| when using clone, what is considered a major element. Eg 1 : a photo of two adjacent walls one with a small window, could you clone out the window? Eg 2 : same walls the window is broken , can you clone the glass to fiw the break, |
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06/01/2006 06:52:35 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by Kronus:
when using clone, what is considered a major element. Eg 1 : a photo of two adjacent walls one with a small window, could you clone out the window? Eg 2 : same walls the window is broken , can you clone the glass to fiw the break, |
No on cloning out the window, fixing the break would depend on how prominent the break is, but it's better not to risk it.
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06/01/2006 06:54:01 PM · #3 |
It all depends who does the cloning...or what site council members are voting that week...sometimes you can get DQ'd for cloning a light stand, as DrJOnes has...
and sometimes you can blur an entire background into oblivian like Artyste has and pass fine...
Message edited by author 2006-06-01 18:54:29.
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06/01/2006 06:56:41 PM · #4 |
As I understand it, dust specks, bubbles, bugs, and other things that aren't the subject or background element of the photo are ok for cloning. Cloning out subjects and background elements like a window, additional person, tree, etc., would be cheating.
If there were *a crack* in the window, I'd say ok, but if the window pane was *broken*, fixing it wouldn't be ok. Taking out the window entirely also a no.
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06/01/2006 06:58:16 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by deapee:
It all depends who does the cloning...or what site council members are voting that week...sometimes you can get DQ'd for cloning a light stand, as DrJOnes has...
and sometimes you can blur an entire background into oblivian like Artyste has and pass fine...
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C'mon, deapee, these aren't comparable. The doc removed a very large element from his picture, as if it had never been there. Arty blurred some background elements without removing them; everything's still there, it's just soft and dreamy.
R.
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06/01/2006 06:58:38 PM · #6 |
There is really no set answer, but as a kind of loose rule, consider what would the average person point out in describing the image. If it would be in the description, it is probably a major element. So in your examples, they would probably mention the window in a description, so probably a major element. A crack in the window? maybe not, just depending on how prominent it is.
If in doubt about a specific potential entry, you could always put in a contact ticket and ask SC's opinion. Just keep in mind, it is not an official ruling, but an opinion, but one with a lot of weight :-) |
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06/01/2006 06:58:56 PM · #7 |
Look at my photgs notes it will show you what I cloned out and passed with.
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06/01/2006 06:59:55 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
C'mon, deapee, these aren't comparable. The doc removed a very large element from his picture, as if it had never been there. Arty blurred some background elements without removing them; everything's still there, it's just soft and dreamy.
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Are you serious dude? Do we really need to bring out more examples of people who blurred LESS than Artyste did and got DQ'd...and re-hash this old, beaten-to-death discussion, or can we just sum it up to who someone is and what site council members are voting that week?
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06/01/2006 07:02:41 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by deapee:
Are you serious dude? Do we really need to bring out more examples of people who blurred LESS than Artyste did and got DQ'd...and re-hash this old, beaten-to-death discussion, or can we just sum it up to who someone is and what site council members are voting that week? |
No. I'm just saying that Doc's picture and Arty's picture aren't being ruled on for the same thing: one's a CLONING infraction and the other uses BLUR. I am not commenting at all as to whether less-blurred images than arty's have failed to pass muster.
R.
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06/01/2006 07:25:49 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by taterbug:
There is really no set answer, but as a kind of loose rule, consider what would the average person point out in describing the image. If it would be in the description, it is probably a major element. So in your examples, they would probably mention the window in a description, so probably a major element. A crack in the window? maybe not, just depending on how prominent it is.
If in doubt about a specific potential entry, you could always put in a contact ticket and ask SC's opinion. Just keep in mind, it is not an official ruling, but an opinion, but one with a lot of weight :-) |
Ok I'll be dumb for a minute, Whats a contact ticket? who is SC and how do I get a hold of him |
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06/01/2006 07:29:25 PM · #11 |
SC= site council
contact = Help->contact |
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06/01/2006 07:42:11 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
...The doc removed a very large element from his picture, as if it had never been there.... |
You know Bear - I saw the orig of this and this entered version and I cannot see the light stand in either :-)) |
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06/01/2006 07:45:45 PM · #13 |
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