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05/14/2006 04:23:18 PM · #1 |
| I keep reading where we Canon users have soft focus issues until we replace the kit lens, and then many never use the kit lens again. I don't hear these complaints from the Nikon camp. My brother says that he thinks the lens that came with his D70 is a "good all-round lens." So, why doesn't Canon include better glass with their kits? I'm talking about 30D and above. |
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05/14/2006 04:24:44 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by ragamuffingirl:
I keep reading where we Canon users have soft focus issues until we replace the kit lens, and then many never use the kit lens again. I don't hear these complaints from the Nikon camp. My brother says that he thinks the lens that came with his D70 is a "good all-round lens." So, why doesn't Canon include better glass with their kits? I'm talking about 30D and above. |
It's just that Nikon users aren't whiners like Canon people are :P
Yeah, the kit lens on this side of the fence sux0rs also. IMO.
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05/14/2006 04:26:35 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by ragamuffingirl:
I keep reading where we Canon users have soft focus issues until we replace the kit lens, and then many never use the kit lens again. I don't hear these complaints from the Nikon camp. My brother says that he thinks the lens that came with his D70 is a "good all-round lens." So, why doesn't Canon include better glass with their kits? I'm talking about 30D and above. |
Oh, I don't think its as bad a lens as many make it out to be, guess you need to know how to use it?
Take a look at these ;)
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05/14/2006 04:31:49 PM · #4 |
| You aren't going to find a lens for $100 that beats it. Unfortunately the truth about glass is you get what you pay for. If you want 'L' quality, you needs to pay 'L' prices... |
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05/14/2006 04:41:10 PM · #5 |
| The Nikkor 18-70 kit lens cost around $400. It's pretty sharp. But you really can't compare it to the $100 Canon kit lens. Nikon's newer 18-55 kit lens may be more comparable. |
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05/14/2006 07:39:55 PM · #6 |
I think this is a marketing/economic issue.
I think most starting out with a dSLR don't realize how expensive buying glass is, so for $1499 they get a camera and a lens. But imagine if the 30D came with a better lens only like the 17-85 and cost $1899. Many would not buy a dslr if it costs about $2000.
Far as I know, not too many folks with Canon dslr's buy the kit lens with the 30D. They just get the body and use the lens they already have or buy lenses seperately. So the kit lens is for Canon to get people into dslr's at an attractive price in my view.
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05/14/2006 08:52:56 PM · #7 |
I have noticed soft focus with my kit lens, but I haven't observed it to be any worse than say with my Olympus....actually, quite the contrary.
I've upped the in-camera sharpness quite a bit. That combined with USM usually gets the job done, though I'm getting that 50mm f1.5 lens before I do any senior portraits. |
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06/01/2006 10:13:21 AM · #8 |
Glad im not alone!!!!
just posted this thread
//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=401909
any one got any more ideas?????????
Thanks
Tim |
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06/01/2006 11:01:24 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by ragamuffingirl:
I keep reading where we Canon users have soft focus issues until we replace the kit lens, and then many never use the kit lens again. I don't hear these complaints from the Nikon camp. My brother says that he thinks the lens that came with his D70 is a "good all-round lens." So, why doesn't Canon include better glass with their kits? I'm talking about 30D and above. |
Most lenses and cameras are better than their owners...when people can't produce great shots, they blame their equipment instead of learning how to use said equipment. For $99 you won't find a better zoom lens than the kit lens and it can produce outstanding results when used properly.
Photos produced with the Canon EF-S 18-55 |
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06/01/2006 12:47:08 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by ragamuffingirl:
... I'm getting that 50mm f1.5 lens before I do any senior portraits. |
No sarcasm intended... I've never heard of a f1.5. Is that something new or do you mean 1.4 or 1.8? |
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06/01/2006 04:04:45 PM · #11 |
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06/01/2006 04:12:38 PM · #12 |
Maybe I just have a good copy, but am very pleased with my kit lens.
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06/01/2006 04:25:10 PM · #13 |
i only had the kit lens for the first year, i took
loads, heres a few
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06/01/2006 04:28:36 PM · #14 |
The kit lens is great! Don't listen to no one. Try it out for yourself ;)
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06/01/2006 04:40:52 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by goodman:
i only had the kit lens for the first year, i took loads, heres a few |
Rumor has it you couldn't take a bad picture with a dirty Coke Bottle for a lens.....
Message edited by author 2006-06-01 16:41:31.
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06/01/2006 06:45:46 PM · #16 |
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06/01/2006 06:56:51 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by wavelength:
It's just that Nikon users aren't whiners like Canon people are :P
Yeah, the kit lens on this side of the fence sux0rs also. IMO. |
I'd have to disagree with you there. I saw a comparison of kit lenses vs. that same manufacturer's pro lenses recently and the Nikon 18-70 is the only lens that stood up as far as IQ goes to the big boy...Canon did bad, Sigma, whoever else is around all did pretty bad.
The only reason to replace the 18-70 is if you need the speed of an f/2.8.
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06/01/2006 08:18:47 PM · #18 |
| i think the kit lens is OK for the price, just too slow for my preference. so i bought the 50mm F1.4 and thats in use. ahh much better. i use the 18-55 for the wide shots and whatev. its not that bad of a lens. its a kit lens. what do you expect? |
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