to leave DPC or not to leave, that is the question

06/01/2006 01:34:26 PM · #1

Well, after much consideration, I think I may be leaving (or at least not being a member of) DPC. I love this community and everything, great people, amazing photographers, it's good. However, I find that sometimes I LIKE the imperfections in photography. I like blown highlights and overexposure (things i'm always slaughtered for). I find my photography isn't so much "technically perfect" but artistic, and I am killed in the challenges for it, or I don't enter for fear that it will be.

I still don't know, I am however now signed up with DeviantART, which seems better for me.
I think I will probably end up staying with the site, just not paying, and do the occasional challenge (not that I ever did that many to begin with) and maybe when I'm older if I go for more technically perfect shots, then come back?

Hmm.. I dunnno.
What a lovely rant.

rex

Canon PowerShot SD780

06/01/2006 01:37:12 PM · #2

IT is only 25 bucks.

Devinat sux IMO. They always timeout. And I hate that.

06/01/2006 01:40:18 PM · #3

Yeah, but I'm 15, and broke.
Plus, DPC is a place to grow and improve your shots, get feedback. However, I don't necessarily want to grow, I like my pictures, even if they aren't necessarily perfect.

Eh. I don't know.

fotomann_forever

06/01/2006 01:43:30 PM · #4

You know, I've always thought that first and foremost that the art an artist produces should be for the artist. Whatever you decide to do, take photographs for yourself first.

Message edited by author 2006-06-01 13:47:18.

rex

Canon PowerShot SD780

06/01/2006 01:46:57 PM · #5

Originally posted by nerdynotdirty:

Plus, DPC is a place to grow and improve your shots, get feedback. However, I don't necessarily want to grow, I like my pictures, even if they aren't necessarily perfect.

Eh. I don't know.

Hmmmm maybe you should quit photography altogether then.

I am not trying to be mean but if you ever think there is no more room for improvement then I think you should quit. You are perfect so what more is there? I think the little $25 is minor even if you are only 15. $25 is only about $2.00 a month or about .07 a day. That is nothing IMO for what you get back in return.

Message edited by author 2006-06-01 13:48:27.

06/01/2006 01:49:55 PM · #6

I think you should skip two movies, sign up for DPC and join Team Suck. We share your ideals.

06/01/2006 01:51:32 PM · #7

Nooo.
I am FAR from it, trust me, I know.
I am saying I am happy with where I am now, and am taking pictures for ME, not to please others.
I didn't mean I didn't want to grow EVER, I just want to take pictures for me, and grow into my own style, and such.
I like feedback, or else I wouldn't post any pictures. The thing is, here pictures are (while artistic) technically perfect, for the most part, and that is something I'm not aiming for now.

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

06/01/2006 01:52:34 PM · #8

Originally posted by posthumous:

I think you should skip two movies, sign up for DPC and join Team Suck. We share your ideals.

What do you do?

goc

Apple iPhone 4

06/01/2006 01:56:15 PM · #9

nooo

don't leave us, yours photo are very good and you have a good eye for sure, just continue t odo what you've done before and everything will be okay, and besides the killing in challenges is a normal thing, take me for an examle :-) ... your average score is excellent BTW.

as i said. don't go anywhere :-)

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

06/01/2006 01:56:21 PM · #10

Originally posted by nerdynotdirty:

Originally posted by posthumous:
I think you should skip two movies, sign up for DPC and join Team Suck. We share your ideals.

What do you do?

Mostly, they glory in their suckiness, as defined by the DPC masses that vote on their images. Secretly, the all think they're way cool :-)

R.

06/01/2006 01:59:21 PM · #11

Originally posted by nerdynotdirty:

Originally posted by posthumous:
I think you should skip two movies, sign up for DPC and join Team Suck. We share your ideals.

What do you do?

um... well... for a while we were tormenting WPL but they were way too sporting about it. So now we're giving away Team Suck Awards for photos with merit that might not have scored well, and also to acknowledge commentors.

And I post interviews of our members (more will be out soon!)...

And maybe we'll compete against each other or compete against other non-WPL teams (except that there aren't any... I was hoping Art ROFLMAO would start Team Spew). The winner of our only competition so far is chaimelle, who now boasts the title Queen of Suck.

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

06/01/2006 01:59:54 PM · #12

Originally posted by gooc:

:), I'm thinkin about it.

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Mostly, they glory in their suckiness, as defined by the DPC masses that vote on their images. Secretly, the all think they're way cool :-)

R.

haa, sounds great.

Elvis_L

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

06/01/2006 02:00:40 PM · #13

if nothing else two hundred people get to see your art every week. that is worthe the money alone.

sure they may give you bad scores and it made you mad but maybe 5 people liked it and those are 5 people that may have never seen your art. if you love your art share it with as many people as you can, even if it means a few bad scores.

06/01/2006 02:01:29 PM · #14

Originally posted by posthumous:

And I post interviews of our members (more will be out soon!)...

I will be sure to look out for that.

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

06/01/2006 02:01:46 PM · #15

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Mostly, they glory in their suckiness, as defined by the DPC masses that vote on their images. Secretly, the all think they're way cool :-)

R.

actually, many of our members suffer from Excessive Self-Deprecation Syndrome (ESDS).

We're not cool, we're zen. Just like the Fonz.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

06/01/2006 02:02:21 PM · #16

On a more philosophical/pedagogical note, in any form of art whatsoever it's always a good idea to learn the conventional skills/techniques/rules by heart. These are the foundation you build on when you set forth to pursue your own vision. And where's a better place on the 'net to learn these things, than right here?

More succinctly, how can you break the "rules" if you don't even know them? You may "like" the blown-out sky in this particular image, but in another image you may wish it was not blown out, and it's good for this reason that you know how to avoid it, so when you DO use a blown-out sky, it's completely intentional.

R.

06/01/2006 02:03:42 PM · #17

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Very good point.

ignite

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

06/01/2006 02:05:50 PM · #18

Come on, don't leave. So what your photos are over exposed? Many people here submit perfect photos and then get a bunch of 1s and end up in 30th place ;-) Shit happens. It's only $25. Stay please. And don't take the comments too seriously. People just wanna help. They all mean well. Sometimes a person might say 'your photos suck' instead of 'highlights blown'. In their unique way they just mean your photo is over-exposed ;-)

06/01/2006 02:11:27 PM · #19

Thank you everyone.
Sorry to any I offended, or if I came off like I think I am perfect.
That wasn't my intent at all.

I do appreciate this site, and feedback, and everything posted above.
I think this July I will go ahead and renew my membership.
You all made good points.

Thanks :)

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

06/01/2006 02:18:22 PM · #20

Originally posted by nerdynotdirty:

only rex said that. and he's on Team Suck, so don't trust him!

I only had one photography teacher, and she said the goal is to take a perfectly exposed picture in the camera because from there you can do anything you want with it. In other words, you can make a blown-out sky from a well-exposed sky, but not vice versa! For some reason, that statement has haunted me ever since, and seems to apply to every aspect of my life.

The scoring system at DPC is not going to reward you as you strive to create your own look (aka vision), but you might find yourself able to cultivate favorites and good comments. That's my current goal (also miserably underfulfilled at the moment).

Message edited by author 2006-06-01 14:18:53.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

06/01/2006 02:21:53 PM · #21

Originally posted by posthumous:

actually, many of our members suffer from Excessive Self-Deprecation Syndrome (ESDS).

"False modesty is the last refuge of the incompetent."

I shoot (and submit) whatever I want, and don't worry about the score. A couple of comments from people who -- to use the earlier example -- appreciate why I included a "blown-out sky" usually makes it a worthwhile exercise for me.