Filters: Are These Hoyas Good? - DPChallenge Forums

05/29/2006 10:01:22 AM · #1

I don't need the best, but I want something good. I don't and have never used any filters. Will these be good enough for me:

Hoya Filters

These will fit any lenses that are 77mm, regardless of them being Nikon or Sigma lenses right?

cpanaioti

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

05/29/2006 10:04:01 AM · #2

The description doesn't say whether they are multi coated or not. Looking at the price, I suspect not.

Multi coating helps reduce the probability of flare.

77mm is 77mm is 77mm

kenskid

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

05/29/2006 10:13:28 AM · #3

I have that hoya polarizer on my 60mm. I never take that sucker off in the sunlight. It makes all the difference in the world.

Also...they are not camera specific. Should fit as long as it is the right size.

KS

Originally posted by Cutter:

Message edited by author 2006-05-29 10:13:44.

deapee

Kodak V803

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

05/29/2006 10:19:51 AM · #4

Hoya makes good filters. The ones that are good, a polarizer is like 130+ by itself though. I mean I'm sure that kit will work, just saying, what's your definition of "good"?

05/29/2006 05:41:25 PM · #5

anyone else with opinions or recommendations?

paddles

Pentax K10D

Pentax FA 50mm f/1.4 AF

05/30/2006 06:53:04 AM · #6

Another vote for Hoya filters as good filters.

I'd go for multicoated ("HMC" or "Super HMC") where available rather than single-coated filters.

If you're trying to keep the cost down, remember that you can get a warming effect like the 81 series filters in your favourite editing program, or (depending on the camera) in your camera's capture settings. That doesn't mean that it's bad or pointless to have an 81A - just that if you are only shooting digitally, it is possible to get by without it.

UV and Circular Polarisers can't be replicated by post-capture processing, they're definitely worth getting.

If money is short, I'd recommend a multicoated UV and CP over a singlecoated UV + CP + 81A. If money isn't short, then a warming filter is not a bad thing to have. I have an 81C filter (stronger version of 81A) from the days when I only shot film; while I haven't used it with my digital camera yet, it's something I may do in the future.

Telehubbie

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

05/30/2006 08:59:47 AM · #7

Are you sure you need a 77mm? I looked at your lens list, then doublechecked each one to make sure and the largest diameter I see is your 70-300 at 62mm. Upgrading lenses perhaps?

That said, I would opt against the set of filters and just get a polarizer by itself and save some bucks. Here's why: the 81a warming filter is kind of redundant in digital, it's more for film. You can always warm up the shot if needed in post-processing. And the UV filter... some people use them just for protecting the front element, and some don't (most of these folks use hoods which helps protect it to an extent).

I have one of these Hoya polarizers, and I personally don't see much difference from my $150 B+W as far as flare. But I always use lens hoods on my lenses and don't shoot much to the sky so that could be why.

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

05/30/2006 09:23:49 AM · #8

Yeah, I am doing a major upgrade in the lens department.

Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX DC HSM
Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8D VR G-AFS ED-IF Lens

Both are 77mm. However, I have read that Circ. Polarizers don't work well on wide angles. That is bummer. I like the advice of just skipping over and getting a really good Circ Polarizer. Now the trick is to find one that can fit on both of those lenses and work well with the Sigma wide angle...Any ideas for that?

Ecce_Signum

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

05/30/2006 09:31:58 AM · #9

Originally posted by Cutter:

I'm about to solve my problem of not being able to attach ND grads and a polarizer to my lenses at the same time. I use LEE ND Grads and (at sometime) will buy their CP, its not cheap but can be attached and rotated with ND grads in place. btw, I use 100*150mm LEE filters and an NDG can easlily be used as a full ND on all my lenses.

Telehubbie

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

05/30/2006 09:43:34 AM · #10

Congrats on the upgrades! For ultra-wide, you'll need a "thin" filter (that you can use on both). I got a thin B+W 77mm and it's nice. The only thing I don't like is that there are no threads at the end to mount your lenscap on. They give you a cheap push-on type, but it never seems to stay put on there.

cpurser

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

05/30/2006 09:56:42 AM · #11

The polarizer won't work well with the 10-20mm. You will get a dark band in the sky on the wide end of the lens because the angle of the light changes over such a wide angle.

I know, I tried with my 10-22mm.

-Chad

05/30/2006 10:06:29 AM · #12

Originally posted by cpurser:

That is interesting because the 77mm B+W and Hoya both run about 175 bucks (B&H) and are specifically for wide angle lenses. I have got to believe they will work. RIght? Anyone else?

cpanaioti

Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

05/30/2006 10:08:58 AM · #13

I use the SMC Thin Hoya on both my 17-40 and 100-400. I have no problems on the 17-40. However, 17 is quite a ways from 10 or 12 so can't speak for those.

cpurser

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

05/30/2006 10:11:49 AM · #14

Originally posted by Cutter:

Originally posted by cpurser:
The polarizer won't work well with the 10-20mm. You will get a dark band in the sky on the wide end of the lens because the angle of the light changes over such a wide angle.

I know, I tried with my 10-22mm.

-Chad

That is interesting because the 77mm B+W and Hoya both run about 175 bucks (B&H) and are specifically for wide angle lenses. I have got to believe they will work. RIght? Anyone else?

I have the 77mm slim Hoya Super-HMC Pro, so I definitely got a good one. Don't get me wrong, it works, but the optical physics doesn't allow it to darken the entire sky on a W-I-D-E angle.

-Chad

Message edited by author 2006-05-30 10:14:02.

Telehubbie