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05/25/2006 10:49:06 AM · #1
I have nothing to say about photography actually I have little to say about anything right now.

I was just reflecting on a thread a few days old now where some members were not happy that the forums weren't strictly photography.

Wouldn't be a shame if you couldn't post a thread here because it wasn't about photography? Maybe I'm just bored but I think this place would be crap if it was a photography only forum and before you get hostile about my comments it's just my opinion nothing else.

I think we should have a poll to see what the forum content should be or shouldn't be. Yeah I know I've said too much for someone who has nothing to say.

05/25/2006 10:50:51 AM · #2
I like the way you think, Tim ;)
05/25/2006 10:54:37 AM · #3
Yea work bores me most of the time but it is a good job and supports my family.

Just contributing to your thread about having nothing to do with photography:) unless fo course you count browsing and posting on DPC while i am at work which i am doing right now:)
05/25/2006 10:55:06 AM · #4
Hi Tim. I don't think we need to make a poll for that. It's nice there are some things to talk about here at the forums more than photography. OK, this is a photography site, but there's enough room for all of us. We all love photography, but also have other things in our lifes, so it's a good place to talk. In case somebody don't want to read things not related to photography, they don't need to read it.

Ãlex.
05/25/2006 11:08:38 AM · #5
Originally posted by keegbow:

I was just reflecting on a thread a few days old now where some members were not happy that the forums weren't strictly photography.


That's what the "General Discussion" section is for, isn't it? :)
I reckon that as long as we do not mess up the other photography threads then it should be fine. All work and no play makes life dull! :p
05/25/2006 11:11:31 AM · #6
ya know... we wouldnt have a GENERAL DISCUSSION are of the forums if we cant talk about other things besides photography...

granted some of the threads are a bit over the top .. but to be able to talk with the community here about other things is a good thing!

adn besides... you can pick and choose what areas you want to see... if someone chooses not to see talk about other things besides photography... they can ignore the general discussion area..

Message edited by author 2006-05-25 11:13:47.
05/25/2006 11:34:54 AM · #7
I agree that it would be unfortunate if we couldn't discuss anything other than photography here. However, I do think we can find a more palatable medium than what we've got now. It seems that the on-topic threads are devolving into streams of semi-nude photos, popcorn-eating smilies and Olympic attempts to get a "kill" with alarming frequency. I think it would behoove (I hate that word) us as a community to perhaps consider some discretion when posting to the forums. Off-topic questions, funnies, etc. are fine on occasion but when we get to 8 separate posts for the hilarious videos you found, weekly (or biweekly) updates on the status of your life and family or magnitudinous threads which really seems to have no content whatsoever, it's probably time to consider more appropriate arenas (see my upcoming tutorial, Online Journals, Forums, Chat: What's the Difference?)

05/25/2006 11:49:46 AM · #8
I don't believe you need to take a poll of anything simply because some people are being hardcore on this or that issue.

We...people, photographers are composite of many things all of which contribute to our output here on DPC and in other worlds. To take our faces away...our personalities and what makes us all tick is simply absurd. Knowing who and what we are...understanding eachother is essential to understanding what we take pictures of and/or why we take pictures. It all carries as much weight as f-stops...70-200mm lenses...sRGB work environments, NeatImage etc.

It's silly and trivial...just ignore it.

Edit: I just read mk's post and I agree. Perhaps maybe a Forum category specifically for that kinda stuff/new threads...with the ever popular "ignore switch"? (probably suggested a millions times already?)

Message edited by author 2006-05-25 11:52:56.
05/25/2006 12:17:55 PM · #9
I get this, I think. Photogrpahy addicts have similar traits and often make good buddies. Since photography is often personal, it helps us get closer.

Photog addicts could be compared to heroin addicts (ala trainspotting) - they do everything together - always carrying the camera (or being high on something) ...
I hope this helped in some way :)
05/25/2006 12:21:10 PM · #10
Originally posted by pawdrix:

I don't believe you need to take a poll of anything simply because some people are being hardcore on this or that issue.

We...people, photographers are composite of many things all of which contribute to our output here on DPC and in other worlds. To take our faces away...our personalities and what makes us all tick is simply absurd. Knowing who and what we are...understanding eachother is essential to understanding what we take pictures of and/or why we take pictures. It all carries as much weight as f-stops...70-200mm lenses...sRGB work environments, NeatImage etc.

It's silly and trivial...just ignore it.

Edit: I just read mk's post and I agree. Perhaps maybe a Forum category specifically for that kinda stuff/new threads...with the ever popular "ignore switch"? (probably suggested a millions times already?)


You can go into your profile and turn off whatever forums you want right now. so if a person only wnated the "photography" discussion all they need to do is turn off all the others.

I actually did that for a while when i didn't have much time for the site but still wanted to come here for the photography related info.
05/25/2006 01:16:37 PM · #11
I think the most awesome thing about here is that you can communicate and share ideas with each other, and help each other out. If it were only photography related, no one here would be as good friends as they are now.
05/25/2006 01:59:54 PM · #12
blah blah blah blah CHEESE blah blah blah NUDE blah blah blah...
05/25/2006 02:12:27 PM · #13
When people say "DPC is a photography site" I cringe a little. That doesn't begin to do us justice. We are a community of photographers and this is a much larger thing. We are as active as we are BECAUSE it's a community and people get involved in it. Like any community, we suffer from various speed bumps in the highway, so to speak. There's nothing wrong with trying to draft/encourage a "code of conduct" as it were, to be sure that the trivial doesn't overwhelm the significant, but it would be a serious mistake to attempt to ban the trivial altogether.

Think of all the most fulfilling relationships in your "real" life; be honest with yourself, and try to evaluate the ratio of trivial to significant in these relationships.

See what I mean? Remember the adage "All work and no play makes...."? It's as true now as it always has been. A humorless community of single-topic-focused overachievers is neither fun nor fulfilling to a larger spectrum of people. There are plenty of hard-core sites out there, but only one DPC.

R.
05/25/2006 02:17:46 PM · #14
I am in complete agreement with mk.
05/25/2006 02:22:54 PM · #15
MK hits the mark big time.

Pawdrix also brings up a great point, but one *can* take "General Discussion" off the front page, and I will be doing so. But that doesn't mean many of the photography related threads don't also devolve into mindless and neurotic repetitions of many of the general discussion threads. I've seen it happen time and time again. Even in some really, really good discussions, there's always a small group of people that decide to, for whatever reason, throw in some immature or pointless post like a line of stupid smilies or bringing up old jokes that never were, and never will be, funny to a vast majority of people.

It's probably just a natural evolution of a forum.. too many people, too quickly or something, but I wish it would stop.

That's only my wish though.
05/25/2006 02:46:20 PM · #16
We frequently see posts in forum threads saying we need to get the thread back on topic. There is an awful lot of stuff in our forums lately that doesn't have anything at all to do with education, the challenges, or even with photography in any general way. I think the forums as a whole need to get back on topic.

Whenever this subject comes up recently people say that someone can just ignore the things that are not about photography if they want to. That is an option that does not work well under the present format. It would work better if there was a forum section that was specifically dedicated to non-photography discussions, which is not the case currently. It would work better if people titled their threads accurately. And it would work better if SC could be a little more aggressive in keeping the photography-related threads on topic.

Originally posted by ignite:

... If it were only photography related, no one here would be as good friends as they are now.
I believe that what ignite says here is true. But there is another side to that coin. I think that at the current time the problem is not a lack of people being good friends, but rather about people acting like enemies. Most of the sharpest disagreements, and offensive behavior, in the forums do not stem from discussions about photography. I believe that decreasing the non-photography related posts and threads would be a step back toward the higher level of civility we seem to have lost in these forums.

Message edited by author 2006-05-25 14:57:22.
05/25/2006 02:56:58 PM · #17
Originally posted by coolhar:

.... I believe that decreasing the non-photography related posts and threads would be a step back toward the higher level of civility we seem to have lost in these forums.


I would counter this view by saying that... with those few exceptions that have been dealt with by the SC... the level of civility within DPC has remained relatively constant... at least from my perspective.

To paraphase the old adage...."If it ain't broke...don't fix it"

Ray
05/25/2006 05:07:53 PM · #18
Originally posted by keegbow (emphasis added):

... I was just reflecting on a thread a few days old now where some members were not happy that the forums weren't strictly photography. ...

I think you missed the point ... :(

Originally posted by mk:

I agree that it would be unfortunate if we couldn't discuss anything other than photography here. However, I do think we can find a more palatable medium than what we've got now. It seems that the on-topic threads are devolving into streams of semi-nude photos, popcorn-eating smilies and Olympic attempts to get a "kill" with alarming frequency. I think it would behoove (I hate that word) us as a community to perhaps consider some discretion when posting to the forums. Off-topic questions, funnies, etc. are fine on occasion but when we get to 8 separate posts for the hilarious videos you found, weekly (or biweekly) updates on the status of your life and family or magnitudinous threads which really seems to have no content whatsoever, it's probably time to consider more appropriate arenas (see my upcoming tutorial, Online Journals, Forums, Chat: What's the Difference?)

... but she didn't. :)
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