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05/22/2006 02:47:05 AM · #1 |
I would like to see DPChallenge place a resized version of the original photograph they request for verification on all top 5 challenge entries and place it in the details area of the challenge entry for others to view.
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05/22/2006 02:50:40 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:
I would like to see DPChallenge place a resized version of the original photograph they request for verification on all top 5 challenge entries and place it in the details area of the challenge entry for others to view. |
Short and sweet Why?
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05/22/2006 03:10:20 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:
I would like to see DPChallenge place a resized version of the original photograph they request for verification on all top 5 challenge entries and place it in the details area of the challenge entry for others to view. |
if DPC is to remain only as a Challenge place - no (secrets revealed)
if DPC is moving towards a being Learning place - YES please! (share)
but personally, I like the idea as I'm trying to see how much difference
can post-editing do to a raw capture. Good idea! |
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05/22/2006 03:15:00 AM · #4 |
| If you are shooting RAW there is no 'original' |
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05/22/2006 03:15:29 AM · #5 |
| I don't think it should be mandatory, but I do like the idea :0) |
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05/22/2006 03:18:52 AM · #6 |
briliant idea! might help change opinions about post-processing.
"If you are shooting RAW there is no 'original'"
...could be an unaltered jpg. version of the RAW file |
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05/22/2006 03:19:47 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by gaurawa:
If you are shooting RAW there is no 'original' |
why not? a direct converted JPEG (from the RAW) will suffice as an original, or if you'd like to call it, the "unedited" one.
p/s: those who wish to reply saying "there is nothing that is unedited, bla bla...", PLEASE dont.
Message edited by author 2006-05-22 03:20:13. |
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05/22/2006 03:20:43 AM · #8 |
I think it will cause a lot of controversy with a lot of discussion in the forums regarding the validity of images it will put the SC under a lot of scrutiny which I donĂ¢€™t believe is a good thing and besides I kinda like not knowing, seeing the original can spoil your view on the final product.
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05/22/2006 03:24:13 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by keegbow:
I think it will cause a lot of controversy with a lot of discussion in the forums regarding the validity of images |
if things are managed properly in the first place, then what is there to be afraid of, right? ;) |
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05/22/2006 03:25:24 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by gaurawa:
If you are shooting RAW there is no 'original' |
why not? a direct converted JPEG (from the RAW) will suffice as an original, or if you'd like to call it, the "unedited" one.
p/s: those who wish to reply saying "there is nothing that is unedited, bla bla...", PLEASE dont. |
its very controversial. I can adjust color / saturation while converting or do it later...so which image should I send as original ? if you are not doing any selective changes, I think you can achieve most of the corrections before converting to jpeg in which case the final and original will loook very similar..
My only point is you can't define what is original and its going to be very controversial... |
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05/22/2006 03:26:37 AM · #11 |
| If the photographer wants the original image posted with the submitted version, they are more than welcome to do so. There is nothing stopping them from doing this. If there is a particular 'pre editing' version you would like to see...feel free to contact the user and ask. I know on a couple occations I've said 'I wonder what this would look like in color', and have had the photog send me the color version etc. |
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05/22/2006 03:29:52 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by keegbow:
I think it will cause a lot of controversy with a lot of discussion in the forums regarding the validity of images it will put the SC under a lot of scrutiny which I donĂ¢€™t believe is a good thing and besides I kinda like not knowing, seeing the original can spoil your view on the final product. |
I don't think it will bring about a lot of controversy after all the SC has already validated the photograph. And I don't see it spoiling the final product. I see it as showing how good a photographer is at editing. I don't care to see the steps but I think many could learn when they see an original file and wow this final product came from that. Then we can go and start playing with some of our photographs in hopes of learning. I would think that everyone here would be proud to show there original and final photograph. After all it shows there all around photography talent.
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05/22/2006 03:35:02 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by crayon:
Originally posted by keegbow:
I think it will cause a lot of controversy with a lot of discussion in the forums regarding the validity of images |
if things are managed properly in the first place, then what is there to be afraid of, right? ;) |
Nothing to be afraid of except each week will have people comparing DQ and similar images from past challenges that have the top 5 unedited photos on display.
But as we have seen before SC can have a different point of view on the validity of images based on who is a SC member at the time and who votes at any given time as it is based on a majority vote system.
I would rather put my trust in them that they will get it right the vast majority of times instead of having hundreds of members scrutinizing every top 5 place getter.
Basically I can see endless threads about why didn't this one get DQ and why did this one they are the same.... rah rah rah
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05/22/2006 04:21:01 AM · #14 |
Interesting idea - we would probably get more "how did they post process that" threads to learm from.
Then again we would also get more "why was that considered legal and mine was DQ'd threads" too - especially at first.
On balance, it would be something I'd support, mainly because I'm always interested to learn how the great images we see here were made. I suspect that in the long run the number of DQ threads would even out, as people could see more clearly the sort of things that are OK and the sort of things that earn a DQ. At the moment as we don't see the original its harder to know what qualifies as a major element for example... |
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