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 05/15/2006 01:16:00 PM · #26
Could you clarify this statment for me.

"Also, cropping is pretty much always legal."

When would cropping not be legal?

Thank you in advance.

Erick

Message edited by author 2006-05-15 13:16:48.
 05/15/2006 01:17:54 PM · #27
Just trying to clarify in my own mind, here.
I'm running into a different rule problem than what width/colour of border is acceptable.
The right side was cropped off? Removed, no longer existed? And then the black was added outside what was left, to replace that? Then wouldn't it become a situation where extra pixels were added to create a new element? The black wouldn't be a border added on top of the existing photo, but would be a whole new black strip added onto the side of the photo. And that's a no-no, isn't it?
I'm a newb, and still working what I can and can't do, so it's nothing against your photo, which I really like, just trying to figure out my way thru the maze of photoshop techiques and rules.
 05/15/2006 01:19:11 PM · #28
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by DrJOnes:
You could have burned the regions so much that they would have turned black from the burning... Would that be considered a removal of a major element?


yes, yes it would.


I didn't enter Cheese because I wanted to burn my background to black and was told I couldn't do that.
 05/15/2006 01:19:49 PM · #29
Originally posted by BeeCee:
The black wouldn't be a border added on top of the existing photo, but would be a whole new black strip added onto the side of the photo. And that's a no-no, isn't it?


Adding image area or replacing image area. Take your pick- they're both illegal.
 05/15/2006 01:20:39 PM · #30
Thank you :)
 05/15/2006 01:25:14 PM · #31
I have an elegant solution: I never use borders. :)

edited to say: except that one time in Negative, d@mmit!! I suck at elegance.

Message edited by author 2006-05-15 13:26:07.
 05/15/2006 01:27:58 PM · #32
I humbly resubmit my question.

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Could you clarify this statment for me.

"Also, cropping is pretty much always legal."

When would cropping not be legal?

Thank you in advance.

Erick
05/15/2006 01:30:45 PM · #33
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
[quote=thegrandwazoo] Could you clarify this statment for me.

"Also, cropping is pretty much always legal."

When would cropping not be legal?


Cropping to less than 160pixels would be illegal.
 05/15/2006 01:31:26 PM · #34
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
I humbly resubmit my question.

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Could you clarify this statment for me.

"Also, cropping is pretty much always legal."

When would cropping not be legal?

Thank you in advance.

Erick


Cropping is never illegal (unless you crop to an illegal canvas size, such as scalvert has pointed out). What CAN BE illegal and often is, is cropping and then re-extending the canvas to be filled with, for example, a black space where the things you cropped out are.

Does that answer your question?

Message edited by author 2006-05-15 13:32:05.
 05/15/2006 01:36:11 PM · #35
Thank you! It does.

Message edited by author 2006-05-15 13:36:17.
 05/15/2006 01:36:29 PM · #36
Perhaps the only example in PC history where cropping resulted in a DQ:



And thus the "pretty much" qualifier to "always" in my statement :-)
 05/15/2006 01:38:13 PM · #37
Yes this all helps. As I know I will be getting a DQ request soon for an Image I plan on entering. I just wanted to be clear as to know I would be fine in my decision to submit my image.

Thanks again
Erick

Message edited by author 2006-05-15 13:39:03.
 05/15/2006 02:00:25 PM · #38
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Yes this all helps. As I know I will be getting a DQ request soon for an Image I plan on entering....


I think you might mean you'll be getting a "validation request"...no one requests an image be DQ'd. As slight as the difference may seem it is, to me, an important distinction.
 05/15/2006 02:01:05 PM · #39
OK whatever. I just know someone is going to POO POO it!
 05/15/2006 02:02:18 PM · #40
Originally posted by KaDi:
...no one requests an image be DQ'd.


I do. Muahahahaha!
 05/15/2006 02:03:01 PM · #41
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by KaDi:
...no one requests an image be DQ'd.

I do. Muahahahaha!


;-P

(edit: My, my! It must have been some time since I "requested validation" since the text has changed to "If you suspect a rules violation..."!)

Message edited by author 2006-05-15 14:05:47.
 05/15/2006 02:11:10 PM · #42
Originally posted by kirbic:
Perhaps the only example in PC history where cropping resulted in a DQ:



And thus the "pretty much" qualifier to "always" in my statement :-)


Actually, there was no cropping of that image, only resizing.
 05/16/2006 10:56:25 AM · #43
So Kryta came home from school yesterday to find me bearing the bad news.

To be honest, I was scared to death to tell him - we had been rooting the picture on all week. We spoke twice a day this weekend on the phone while he was at his Dad's to keep him updated. He wanted to submit it as his 4th grade graduation yearbook picture (had to talk him out of that LOL) and he was so excited we did so well with it.

I broke the news when I picked him up from the bus stop.

He just exhaled long and sorrowfull - shrugged and said "That stinks. Well, now I guess we know how everyone else feels when it happens to them... Whats the new Member Challenge?" Snork. Gettin' big in those britches of his, and very... astute in his "old" age. LOL

Ok, I'm just gonna take his example and brush it off and go on now. I feel a bit silly now, and better for the kind words. Thanks for the encouragement everyone - we both appreciate all of it. And thanks SC for jumping in and answering all the questions that popped up - I think I'm just going to avoid borders completely in the future so I don't toe the line too far again.

So DQ or not, I'm still feeling the love for DPC.

And PS - Good to see you back Dr. Jones. :)

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