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05/15/2006 07:04:24 AM · #1 |
I just got DQ'd and only got notice that i needed to send my shot in yesterday..I had asked for pre-approval and sent in a copy but nobody told me I was under review or asked for an original and now I am DQ'd. I sent in an original and my editing steps are with my shot..48hrs from when i was informed would be tomorrow. HUH?
Anyone ever experieced this..my shot was doing very well..last I looked at least 6.6...crazy.....
no feedback, no notice, i respond and then this. Pretty strange. |
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05/15/2006 07:06:11 AM · #2 |
oh this is the shot in question..and it is legal. |
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05/15/2006 07:09:52 AM · #3 |
Send a message to the SC via the contact page.....they've always been quick to reply when I've had a query.
Message edited by author 2006-05-15 07:10:42.
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05/15/2006 07:13:57 AM · #4 |
I thought getting DQ'd like this deserves other people being aware too..I have contacted them. |
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05/15/2006 07:34:57 AM · #5 |
oh and I got DQ'd for not providing an original within 48hrs..maybe I didn't make that clear...
and maybe nobody cares...i have to go to work..hopefully sometime I will get some sort of response from the SC's.....
Message edited by author 2006-05-15 07:35:16. |
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05/15/2006 07:35:25 AM · #6 |
When you submit your photo for validation you will get a message that it was received. IF you got that message and they still say it wasn't then there is obviously a glitch in the system somewhere. There is also a message posted under your shot the moment they decide a validation is needed or requested. Had you not checked in at all last week?
Deannda |
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05/15/2006 08:47:05 AM · #7 |
The files you sent had all been modified in Photoshop. They were not originals.
Message edited by author 2006-05-15 08:47:40. |
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05/15/2006 08:55:24 AM · #8 |
so when 48hrs comes up DQ me...or send me a message saying this is not the original..then as you once pointed out, I can use revert to original in iphoto...but still I didn't ever get infromed of this, and only had an original requested yesterday afternoon..so don't you think according to the rules I should not yet be DQ'd? |
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05/15/2006 09:01:46 AM · #9 |
you sent a file within 48 hours. But it was not the original file. The dq was based on that (not being the original).
I'm not sure why you feel it shouldn't be dq'ed. If you send us a file saying it is the original, and it is not, why do you still get more time to send the original, if you sent what you claimed was the original to begin with?
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05/15/2006 09:07:04 AM · #10 |
It looks like you first sent an "original" for validation last week. You have since sent several files, none of which were originals, after being given specific instructions on how to do so. |
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05/15/2006 09:18:56 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by scalvert: It looks like you first sent an "original" for validation last week. You have since sent several files, none of which were originals, after being given specific instructions on how to do so. |
So you're accusing him of purposely sending bad files? Or are you accusing him of being stupid? I don't understand why you didn't inform him privately that he sent the wrong file. Seems only courteous to me, regardless of how many times he does it. Keep telling him he's wrong until his 48 hours are up.
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05/15/2006 09:20:33 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by scalvert: It looks like you first sent an "original" for validation last week. You have since sent several files, none of which were originals, after being given specific instructions on how to do so. |
If he sent an original early on for validation...why wasn't it validated then? This is what I find confusing... |
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05/15/2006 09:21:25 AM · #13 |
sorry I didn't even try to send an original last week..i sent a copy just to check if someone thought it would be okay...maybe i don't understand your rules..i thought i had 48hrs to send in an original..I could go home tonight and check my files, the one i sent in i thought WAS an original..evidently it had been altered..so i would revert to original.
so why i feel this way is I have 48hrs to make it work..now if you feel this is asking too much of you that's that.
I was notified by Kirbic yesterday afternoon. My assumption was that the SC would want to give the photographer the benefit of the doubt and let them not the shot was not an original, since I still have time within the rules. I fwithin that time frame I am unable to provide an original, then I am DQ'd. That is why. |
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05/15/2006 09:25:41 AM · #14 |
Just my 2 cents.... but it is the photographer's responsibility to ensure their file is an original, unaltered file -- not SC's responsibility to tell you whether or not your file is unaltered. You can look at the exif info to see if its altered by software or not. SC deal with MANY issues every week, they should not also be expected to hand-hold every member. Also, you had 48 hours to send your original, whether you sent it on hour one or hour 48 is irrelevant, SC begin their deliberation as soon as they recieve your file. There is no rule that says they must deliberate until the 48 hours is over.
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05/15/2006 09:27:47 AM · #15 |
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05/15/2006 09:34:21 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by idnic: Just my 2 cents.... but it is the photographer's responsibility to ensure their file is an original, unaltered file -- not SC's responsibility to tell you whether or not your file is unaltered. You can look at the exif info to see if its altered by software or not. SC deal with MANY issues every week, they should not also be expected to hand-hold every member. Also, you had 48 hours to send your original, whether you sent it on hour one or hour 48 is irrelevant, SC begin their deliberation as soon as they recieve your file. There is no rule that says they must deliberate until the 48 hours is over. |
The rule says you have 48 hours to provide an original. If you're going to have a custom as humiliating as a DQ*, you should show a little care with how you apply it. Especially to paying members.
*for those of you who would argue that DQs are not intended to be humiliating, then why are they featured so prominently (and permanently) on our profile pages, and why do they lead to suspensions?
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05/15/2006 09:37:31 AM · #17 |
ok like i said that is fair..
i thought you worked differently that is all..
and i usually work by the letter of the rules, which would mean if there was something wrong, i am DQ'd..if i didn't provide proper evidence within the time allowed I would be DQ'd..
I don't think you are malicious, or mean spirited..but am surprised as I could proved an original and did work within the rules..so I will move on, and maybe just take a break from the site..
thanks for responding.. |
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05/15/2006 09:39:54 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by bucket: ok like i said that is fair..
i thought you worked differently that is all..
and i usually work by the letter of the rules, which would mean if there was something wrong, i am DQ'd..if i didn't provide proper evidence within the time allowed I would be DQ'd..
I don't think you are malicious, or mean spirited..but am surprised as I could proved an original and did work within the rules..so I will move on, and maybe just take a break from the site..
thanks for responding.. |
Don't take a break! You're on my favorites list. It's unfair to me! ;P
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05/15/2006 09:40:25 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by posthumous: Originally posted by idnic: Just my 2 cents.... but it is the photographer's responsibility to ensure their file is an original, unaltered file -- not SC's responsibility to tell you whether or not your file is unaltered. You can look at the exif info to see if its altered by software or not. SC deal with MANY issues every week, they should not also be expected to hand-hold every member. Also, you had 48 hours to send your original, whether you sent it on hour one or hour 48 is irrelevant, SC begin their deliberation as soon as they recieve your file. There is no rule that says they must deliberate until the 48 hours is over. |
The rule says you have 48 hours to provide an original. If you're going to have a custom as humiliating as a DQ*, you should show a little care with how you apply it. Especially to paying members.
*for those of you who would argue that DQs are not intended to be humiliating, then why are they featured so prominently (and permanently) on our profile pages, and why do they lead to suspensions? |
A DQ is embarassing. That's to keep us from participating in DQ-able activities and its a very effective tool for that purpose.
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05/15/2006 09:41:47 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by posthumous: Originally posted by idnic: Just my 2 cents.... but it is the photographer's responsibility to ensure their file is an original, unaltered file -- not SC's responsibility to tell you whether or not your file is unaltered. You can look at the exif info to see if its altered by software or not. SC deal with MANY issues every week, they should not also be expected to hand-hold every member. Also, you had 48 hours to send your original, whether you sent it on hour one or hour 48 is irrelevant, SC begin their deliberation as soon as they recieve your file. There is no rule that says they must deliberate until the 48 hours is over. |
The rule says you have 48 hours to provide an original. If you're going to have a custom as humiliating as a DQ*, you should show a little care with how you apply it. Especially to paying members.
*for those of you who would argue that DQs are not intended to be humiliating, then why are they featured so prominently (and permanently) on our profile pages, and why do they lead to suspensions? |
This has a purpose. everything is displayed in your profile, including awful challenges that you did years ago (look at mine :P)... this is a reminder that you have improved (hopefully), and the pink line is a reminder either that you cheated, or you weren't as careful as you may have been in choosing a challenge entry. i see the permanent stripe as a way to remind you to follow the rules and be careful. |
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05/15/2006 09:47:09 AM · #21 |
Why is everyone elucidating my footnote and ignoring my point? I can only assume you agree with me.
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05/15/2006 09:51:18 AM · #22 |
Rob should get the full 48 to submit his original...he can provide it, so he should get the chance to do so...simple as that.
edit to say:
...if we have but ONE chance to submit proof within the 48 hours, this should be stated in the rules...
Message edited by author 2006-05-15 09:54:20. |
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05/15/2006 09:55:08 AM · #23 |
Yes, he had 48 hours to send an ORIGINAL / UNALTERED file. He rushed, sent an altered file and got DQ'd. Period.
Again, as the photographer, it is OUR responsibility to send the original when requested. We all check the little box that swears we will do that when we enter a challenge. Its fairly cut & dry.
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05/15/2006 09:56:41 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by RKT: Rob should get the full 48 to submit his original...he can provide it, so he should get the chance to do so...simple as that.
edit to say:
...if we have but ONE chance to submit proof within the 48 hours, this should be stated in the rules... |
Why would we need multiple opportunites? Original is original.
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05/15/2006 09:59:01 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by idnic: Originally posted by RKT: Rob should get the full 48 to submit his original...he can provide it, so he should get the chance to do so...simple as that.
edit to say:
...if we have but ONE chance to submit proof within the 48 hours, this should be stated in the rules... |
Why would we need multiple opportunites? Original is original. |
48 hours is 48 hours |
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