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05/07/2006 08:35:44 AM · #1 |
If you could buy a second hand 1ds (NOT mk2) or a brand new 5D, which would you buy and why? The 1ds is about $500 cheaper. Just curious :)
June
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05/07/2006 08:38:49 AM · #2 |
Of those two choices, I wouldn't buy either. The fps is too slow.
That being said, if fps is not an issue, then probably the 5D since it's newer technology. |
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05/07/2006 08:39:31 AM · #3 |
| Unless I needed the better body for some reason, like photojournalism or did lot´s of photographing at the beach or at mountaintops and the likes, I´d get the 5D just simply because of better image quality. Also if the 500$ really mattered to me, then I´d get the 1Ds though if it´s cheaper and in good condition. |
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05/07/2006 08:39:45 AM · #4 |
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05/07/2006 08:44:16 AM · #5 |
1Ds for me, for the focus system, sealing, and viewfinder info display...
The image quality of the 5D is technically better, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with the 1Ds (mark I). The absolute image quality is only a technical detail when you're talking about the difference between these two cams. The extra functionality of the 1 series body will extend the potential for photography in difficult light/environments/situations...
Cheers, Me.
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05/07/2006 09:02:32 AM · #6 |
If some of you have only a budget of $10000, will you buy 1Ds Mark 2 or not? with reasons
for me i am thinking to buy it very soon, about fps i am not interested in sports or fast moving items that much but i will not ignore, just i go for quality and size of Image, and i think there are more advanced features beside megapixel and full frame.
what do you think people?
Message edited by author 2006-05-07 09:06:56. |
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05/07/2006 09:10:38 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by UAE_Guy:
If some of you have only a budget of $10000, will you buy 1Ds Mark 2 or not? with reasons
for me i am thinking to buy it very soon, about fps i am not interested in sports or fast moving items that much but i will not ignore, just i go for quality and size of Image, and i think there are more advanced features beside megapixel and full frame.
what do you think people? |
If all I had was $10k I would not buy a 1ds mk2. I would buy a 5D and spend the rest on L lenses and other accesories.
June
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05/07/2006 09:18:26 AM · #8 |
I got some lenses, only one L lens and some accessories, and with $10k i can have one or 2 L lenses beside the 1ds, so what do you think? still not buy 1ds?
see my profile and see what lenses i got
accessories, i have Flash 580EX, 2 extension tubes: 12&25, 2X extender, remote control, some filters
so what i need more?
Message edited by author 2006-05-07 09:19:48. |
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05/07/2006 09:21:53 AM · #9 |
you have alot of lenses...
Canon EOS 350D
Nikon CoolPix 8800
Lenses
Canon EF-S 18-55mm
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II
Canon EF 28-90mm f/4-5.6 II
Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM
Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM
Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO DG Macro
Sigma 12-24mm f/4-5.6 EX DG ASP. HSM
Sigma 17-35mm f/2.8-4 EX DG ASP. HSM
Sigma 8mm EX DG Circular Fisheye
Extension Tube EF 12II
Extension Tube EF 25II
Extender EF 2x II
Flash Speedlite 580EX
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05/07/2006 09:32:24 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Elmakias:
you have alot of lenses...
Canon EOS 350D
Nikon CoolPix 8800
Lenses
Canon EF-S 18-55mm
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II
Canon EF 28-90mm f/4-5.6 II
Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM
Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM
Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO DG Macro
Sigma 12-24mm f/4-5.6 EX DG ASP. HSM
Sigma 17-35mm f/2.8-4 EX DG ASP. HSM
Sigma 8mm EX DG Circular Fisheye
Extension Tube EF 12II
Extension Tube EF 25II
Extender EF 2x II
Flash Speedlite 580EX |
ok, so if you were in my place and have more than $10k say about $15k but you fix budget to $10k or less will you think to buy 1ds mark2? and i am thinking to buy 70-200 f2.8L IS USM too, i got an offer from arabic e-shop to buy 1ds with that lens both come with $8968 including the warranty and shipping pay by money bank trnasfer, and $9148 by credit card. what do you think? what you will decide?
it is trustful safe website. waiting the answer |
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05/07/2006 09:38:39 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by UAE_Guy:
Originally posted by Elmakias:
you have alot of lenses...
Canon EOS 350D
Nikon CoolPix 8800
Lenses
Canon EF-S 18-55mm
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II
Canon EF 28-90mm f/4-5.6 II
Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 USM
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM
Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM
Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO DG Macro
Sigma 12-24mm f/4-5.6 EX DG ASP. HSM
Sigma 17-35mm f/2.8-4 EX DG ASP. HSM
Sigma 8mm EX DG Circular Fisheye
Extension Tube EF 12II
Extension Tube EF 25II
Extender EF 2x II
Flash Speedlite 580EX |
ok, so if you were in my place and have more than $10k say about $15k but you fix budget to $10k or less will you think to buy 1ds mark2? and i am thinking to buy 70-200 f2.8L IS USM too, i got an offer from arabic e-shop to buy 1ds with that lens both come with $8968 including the warranty and shipping pay by money bank trnasfer, and $9148 by credit card. what do you think? what you will decide?
it is trustful safe website. waiting the answer |
Look, you obviously sound like you want to buy a 1ds mk2, so, if you can afford it, just go ahead and buy it. It is an excellent camera and yes, most of us Canon users would love to have one.
June
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05/07/2006 09:47:25 AM · #12 |
| yes i want to buy it, just i am wondering that most of you don't have it, i don't think that most of yoy don't have enough budget, even me i collected that budget in one year and few months, so i don't know if you people really can't afford this budget or you don't think of 1ds and have another choices or alternatives, just i need to buy the best top camera one time and not buy one camera and then decide later to buy another for more features, and i found that 1ds got most features i need but maybe some of you have experience with it and not decide to buy it, so just tell me if i am making good decision |
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05/07/2006 10:22:38 AM · #13 |
I'd get a 1ds...something about those bodies just feel so good in your hands...although I do like the feel of a d2h better than a 1ds, but still, just saying.
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05/07/2006 10:26:29 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by UAE_Guy:
yes i want to buy it, just i am wondering that most of you don't have it, i don't think that most of yoy don't have enough budget, even me i collected that budget in one year and few months, so i don't know if you people really can't afford this budget or you don't think of 1ds and have another choices or alternatives, just i need to buy the best top camera one time and not buy one camera and then decide later to buy another for more features, and i found that 1ds got most features i need but maybe some of you have experience with it and not decide to buy it, so just tell me if i am making good decision |
A camera body lasts a short while, then it needs replaced. Lenses last a lifetime and the span of many camera bodies.
Yes, you have a lot of lenses, but don't really have great lenses -- invest in the lenses. If you have 10k to spend, get a 20d, 70-200 f/2.8L, 300 f/4L, 17-40L...and you get the picture.
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05/07/2006 10:28:51 AM · #15 |
For once I have to agree with Deapee :P Is this the end of the world???? LOL j/k
June
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05/07/2006 10:41:51 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Chiqui:
For once I have to agree with Deapee :P Is this the end of the world???? LOL j/k
June |
ROFL.
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05/07/2006 11:30:19 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by Chiqui:
If you could buy a second hand 1ds (NOT mk2) or a brand new 5D, which would you buy and why? The 1ds is about $500 cheaper. Just curious :)
June |
If you had $ 10, would you buy a hammer or a screw driver? I do admit though, there is a dilemma for the pedantic generalist. With a 5D, he's slated to turn into a landscape photographer, with a 1D II he'll cover more genres. The 5D shots will wow us differently than, say, that shot of a croc jumping a wildebeest. |
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05/07/2006 11:37:13 AM · #18 |
there is no big differences between rebel xt and 20D, just more fps and little good features but not very big differences, at least i am looking for full frame, 5D and 1ds mark2 are the best 2 choices, just i am more with 1ds as it is much advanced than 5D even much expensive so i don't need more later.
about lenses i got 2 nice lenses which are 100mm Macro and 24-70mm, and i said that i will buy 1ds with a lens 70-200L IS USM, so what more lenses i need? 17-40 is great lens but it is not so big different than 24-70mm, and it is not that much expensive so i can buy it later just more wider so i will buy super wide fixed lens later if i need like 14mm, about the fixed lenses 300mm or even 400mm or bigger are more for wildlife, and here in UAE wildlife is very very rarely so i don't need it in this time.
and if you calculate, 1ds with 2 L lenses i can get them with around $10k, so is it an issue to have 100 L lenses?
what i like in photography is: portrait, landscape, macro, still life. i can do sports or wildlife later when i get interested more, and i think 70-200mm is good for awhile for sports or wildlife, what do you think people? any suggestions |
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05/07/2006 11:46:50 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by UAE_Guy:
there is no big differences between rebel xt and 20D, just more fps and little good features but not very big differences, at least i am looking for full frame, 5D and 1ds mark2 are the best 2 choices, just i am more with 1ds as it is much advanced than 5D even much expensive so i don't need more later.
about lenses i got 2 nice lenses which are 100mm Macro and 24-70mm, and i said that i will buy 1ds with a lens 70-200L IS USM, so what more lenses i need? 17-40 is great lens but it is not so big different than 24-70mm, and it is not that much expensive so i can buy it later just more wider so i will buy super wide fixed lens later if i need like 14mm, about the fixed lenses 300mm or even 400mm or bigger are more for wildlife, and here in UAE wildlife is very very rarely so i don't need it in this time.
and if you calculate, 1ds with 2 L lenses i can get them with around $10k, so is it an issue to have 100 L lenses?
what i like in photography is: portrait, landscape, macro, still life. i can do sports or wildlife later when i get interested more, and i think 70-200mm is good for awhile for sports or wildlife, what do you think people? any suggestions |
I hate to break it to you but you will always want more. Like deapee said, camera bodies get upgraded by the manufacturers every couple of years or so. Lenses on the other hand are meant to last much longer. This is ultimately a decision you have to make on your own because you will get many, many mixed answers here since we all have different needs and our ideas of "the best camera" are very different. Do what you think is best for you.
June
PS. I think my thread got hijacked! :P
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05/07/2006 11:54:11 AM · #20 |
i think you should also consider the size and weight. i hike a lot with my equipment and would not want to be carrying all that around. the 20d and a lens is already cumbersome around the neck. i cannot imagine a 1d series and any sort of telephoto.
ifn you are mostly gonna be in a studio then definitely get the 1ds II. but ifn you are gonna be carrying it around all over the place. size does matter. lol.
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05/07/2006 11:55:46 AM · #21 |
still 1ds and 5D are the best even the manufaturerer produced 30D, and i am not sure that they will produce expensive camera more advanced than 1ds because people then will not buy so it is not a benefit to produce it. I think if i get 5D or 1ds mark 2 i will keep them for long time, and if there will be new more powerful cameras then at that time i will have enough budget to upgrade, and i remember that Canon produced 2 lenses too with 30D camera, the question is: why you post this thread about 1ds and 5D then?
Message edited by author 2006-05-07 11:58:51. |
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05/07/2006 11:57:26 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by tngrndream:
i think you should also consider the size and weight. i hike a lot with my equipment and would not want to be carrying all that around. the 20d and a lens is already cumbersome around the neck. i cannot imagine a 1d series and any sort of telephoto.
ifn you are mostly gonna be in a studio then definitely get the 1ds II. but ifn you are gonna be carrying it around all over the place. size does matter. lol. |
right, most of my photos will be indoors, as i said we don't have good views outdoors here, so you gree about 1ds II. |
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05/07/2006 11:59:54 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by UAE_Guy:
still 1ds and 5D are the best even the manufaturerer produced 30D, and i am not sure that they will produce expensive camera more advanced than 1ds because people then will not buy so it is not a benefit to produce it. I think if i get 5D or 1ds mark 2 i will keep them for long time, and if there will buy new more powerful camera then that time i will have enough budget to upgrade, and i remember that Canon produced 2 lenses too with 30D camera, the question is: why you post this thread about 1ds and 5D then? |
I am not sure I understand your question but my reason for starting this thread, if you must know, is because I am looking to upgrade. I have just started my wedding and portrait photography business and I am looking to get a new camera in the near future for this. There is a big difference between the 1ds mk2 and the 1ds. I may be able to afford a second hand 1ds or a 5D but not a 1ds mk2. How long have you been in photography?
June
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05/07/2006 12:02:48 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by tngrndream:
...i cannot imagine a 1d series and any sort of telephoto.
ifn you are mostly gonna be in a studio then definitely get the 1ds II. but ifn you are gonna be carrying it around all over the place. size does matter. lol. |
Size and weight do come into play. I, personally, like a heavy, bulky camera. It sits well in my hands (no fumbling) and steadies my shots, especially with a big telephoto mounted to it. I found it easier to get used to carrying weight than to get used to fumbling with some dainty toy. |
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05/07/2006 12:04:36 PM · #25 |
UAE guy, my main point is that a 1dsmkII and a wide array of consumer lenses will produce less quality shots than a 20d and pro glass would.
As far as there not being a difference between the 350 and the 20d, what is the difference between a 20d and a 5d? Do you just want something with a 36mm sensor? Because that certainly isn't the end all in photography, "full-frame" really isn't going to give you anything more than you already have.
It sounds like you've made up your mind already though, so just go get the 1dsmkII.
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