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04/26/2006 01:29:42 PM · #1 |
I was really disappointed with my score in " Something Old"
My Jeep is a 1947 motel . It is 59 years old
I though that something 59 years old would be old enough,
Please read my comments and tell me if you thank it deserve
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3---- 23
If I had entered something made in the same year but looked like a peace of junk do you thank I would have done better ?
The Title reflected the year the jeep was made.
Why would I not tell the truth ?
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04/26/2006 01:37:23 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by Diana:
If I had entered something made in the same year but looked like a peace of junk do you thank I would have done better ?
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I do. I think you suffered from the same thing Yanko did. I think most voters equated old with dirty, well-used, worn, etc. There's nothing about your photo that says old...it looks shiny and well-kept and posed on a nice hillside like you would a car for a commercial.
Of course, I got the opposite end - subject isn't old, it's just used! So I dunno. :)
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04/26/2006 01:40:53 PM · #3 |
Welcome to the world of DPC.
Simply *meeting* the challenge is very often just not good enough.
Did you deserve that many really low scores? Maybe not, but you presented an image that is very 'plain', if I may be so bold. There is no real composition, the angle and colors are flat and boring, and it lacks that sense of interest that makes or breaks photos here.
It's a nice enough photo if you are putting the jeep up on ebay to sell, but for DPC, you need more.
Interesting angles, more involved processing, richer colors (try shooting at different times of day, with different light), and/or something there that will make a voter say "woah! I like this". What you have now is something that makes a voter say, "eh, next".
It can sometimes be a long hill to climb, but I'd suggest really paying attention to the photos that score in the top 30 in most challenges, and study why they are there.. what makes them different.
Good luck for future challenges, and remember.. meeting the challenge is only a part of it.. and sometimes, a pretty *small* part of it. Despite what the rules or guidlines say. |
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04/26/2006 01:41:17 PM · #4 |
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04/26/2006 01:45:16 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Artyste:
Welcome to the world of DPC.
Simply *meeting* the challenge is very often just not good enough.
Did you deserve that many really low scores? Maybe not, but you presented an image that is very 'plain', if I may be so bold. There is no real composition, the angle and colors are flat and boring, and it lacks that sense of interest that makes or breaks photos here.
It's a nice enough photo if you are putting the jeep up on ebay to sell, but for DPC, you need more.
Interesting angles, more involved processing, richer colors (try shooting at different times of day, with different light), and/or something there that will make a voter say "woah! I like this". What you have now is something that makes a voter say, "eh, next".
It can sometimes be a long hill to climb, but I'd suggest really paying attention to the photos that score in the top 30 in most challenges, and study why they are there.. what makes them different.
Good luck for future challenges, and remember.. meeting the challenge is only a part of it.. and sometimes, a pretty *small* part of it. Despite what the rules or guidlines say. |
Sorry Diana but to be frank I totally agree with Artyste here, was going to write a very similar response as his but he has said everything I wanted to say. No offense but the shot is simply very mediocre, nothing bad about it but nothing at all that would want to make me give it a high score. That and the jeep doesn´t really look very old should account for the low score. Try to do something a little bit more inspiring next time, take a photo of the jeep with some interesting backround for example? Not trying to offend but just being honest, after all, what the hell do I know. |
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04/26/2006 01:47:33 PM · #6 |
E-301 put it very succinctly in his comment during the challenge. MK, Artyste, Larus, and now I all echo that comment:
Originally posted by e301:
Technically accomplished prtrait of a vehicle - as an illustration it's faultless. In this challenge however ... well, it neither is nor looks that old, and there is little more to the image than its subject - no magic in light, environment, relationships, and no surprise. |
This happens to me all the time; I often enter perfectly competent, perfectly on-topic photographs that fail to "involve" the viewer in any significant way, and my scores reflect that.
Robt.
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04/26/2006 01:56:57 PM · #7 |
Diana,
I like the jeep and I gave it a higher score than the average you got. I know enough about jeeps to know that it is not a current model but I was surprised by how old you said it was. It doesn't look that old.
To do well in these challenges, you need an image that expresses the challenge concept clearly to most of the voters. Something like this would have done better:
--DanW |
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04/26/2006 04:38:14 PM · #8 |
[quote=wheeledd] Diana,
"I know enough about jeeps to know that it is not a current model but I was surprised by how old you said it was. It doesn't look that old."
Ok if my photography is not all that great and I get a 1- 2- or 3 etc.
that is ok with me. no sweat.
What upset me is the fact that no one thanks that the jeep is as old as it is.
So I went to Ask.com and typed in 1947 Willys Jeep
I found these photos
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1946
1947
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1948
Now what is different except the paint ?
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04/26/2006 04:49:26 PM · #9 |
Great jeep, wanna sell it? I'd take the fact that people don't think it's old as a complement tot he owner. It's been rebuilt very well and well taken care of.
PS the flat fenders and tall windshild give it away as a 40s-50s Jeep.
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04/26/2006 04:53:49 PM · #10 |
Artyste & Larus, I get what you're saying however I've seen images like hers score a full point higher without doing anything else except meeting the challenge in the eyes of the voter. It's not about technicals or wow factor just whether it meets the challenge and hers clearly does. I know nothing about jeeps but I do know THATS not a new model.
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04/26/2006 06:02:56 PM · #11 |
FWIW...it looks like a pretty new replica of an old model. The paint is new, the tires are new, the roll bar looks a like a new addition.
Don't fight it...learn from it.
...and like Ray posted after, those images would have also scored the same.
Message edited by author 2006-04-26 18:17:22.
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04/26/2006 06:07:14 PM · #12 |
| A fact about DPC that could almost be a universal rule: if your photograph requires the assistance of a title to persude you that it meets the challenge, then it ain't gonna win. |
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04/26/2006 06:13:52 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Diana:
Now what is different except the paint ? |
Stated succinctly.... NOTHING.
However, if you go back and read the comments made to date, that is not the issue... because in all likelyhood these images would not have fared any better than yours in the challenge, due to the reasons given.
Ray
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04/26/2006 06:19:43 PM · #14 |
i thought i would pass the 6 with my entry, felt very disappointed aswell.
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04/26/2006 06:22:17 PM · #15 |
well you did better than me if that's any consolation... ;}
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04/26/2006 07:56:22 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by soup:
well you did better than me if that's any consolation... ;} |
Just left a comment on yours. Not sure why your's would be considered DNMC. It's like there are a bunch of 12 year olds voting who don't associate the peace sign with the Vietnam era. I'm just amazed more than anything else with the selective treatment of so many photos in this challenge.
Message edited by author 2006-04-26 19:57:04.
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04/26/2006 08:07:50 PM · #17 |
I submitted a photo of Stonehenge - about 4500 years old - that I spent a lot of time and care on trying to make it look like a vintage post card c1900 of the site. Even converted to B&W and added a degree of sepia as well as the colour shot looked like a picture post card c 2006!
But, old as it was and as interesting as I found it, it was relatively "bland" compared to the top shots, which is something I can understand. Also, Stonehenge doesn't look that old either - darn conservationists! :-)
Anyhow, all of the comments applied to the Jeep shot apply to mine, too, so I guess I am offering sympathy and support for much the same scoring profile: it sucks sometimes but that is the way it is! |
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04/26/2006 08:13:25 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Diana:
I was really disappointed with my score in " Something Old"
My Jeep is a 1947 motel . It is 59 years old
I though that something 59 years old would be old enough... |
Look on the bright side. If they thought that was old then they might also think YOU are old to. That would be sinful. You are a darned good photographer and cute too. You married? Got a boyfriend? Want one? :) :)
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04/26/2006 08:27:03 PM · #19 |
There certainly were some real head scrathers in this challenge. I know old jeeps, I gave it a 7. I dont know older cameras, I gave Yankos a 6, it was a great shot...I just thought it was a newer camera...but I knew it was really well done. You must take great care of your stuff.
And obsidian, your color photo in your portfolio looks much better then the submitted photo. |
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04/26/2006 09:45:32 PM · #20 |
Its also a case of what people would consider old? My grandparents wouldn't consider the 1950's old, as that would make them feel old! Also, compared to some things, like Stonehenge, the 1940s/50s are brand-spanking-new! :) Personally, I consider anything pre-1980 ancient! :P
Message edited by author 2006-04-26 21:51:37.
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04/26/2006 09:48:07 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by LoudDog:
Great jeep, wanna sell it? I'd take the fact that people don't think it's old as a complement tot he owner. It's been rebuilt very well and well taken care of.
PS the flat fenders and tall windshild give it away as a 40s-50s Jeep. |
Thank you LoudDog
Yes it is for sale:
We give this jeep to the Church and it will be auctioned off June 3
My husband and I rebuilted it about 15 years ago .
It runs great
The Church is useing this photo to adv. the auction |
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04/26/2006 10:01:52 PM · #22 |
| My teddy bear in my shot was accused of not being old. My grandmother got in high school I believe which dated it close to 70 years old. Just couldnt figure out how to make it look much older. |
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04/26/2006 10:40:51 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Konador:
Its also a case of what people would consider old? My grandparents wouldn't consider the 1950's old, as that would make them feel old! Also, compared to some things, like Stonehenge, the 1940s/50s are brand-spanking-new! :) Personally, I consider anything pre-1980 ancient! :P |
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04/27/2006 03:44:35 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by Konador:
Its also a case of what people would consider old? My grandparents wouldn't consider the 1950's old, as that would make them feel old! Also, compared to some things, like Stonehenge, the 1940s/50s are brand-spanking-new! :) Personally, I consider anything pre-1980 ancient! :P |
Death to the young one! Young whippersnapper!
Chuckle - rumour has it that I was around when they commissioned the first set of designs for Stonehenge... |
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04/27/2006 04:50:39 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by Diana:
I was really disappointed with my score in " Something Old"
My Jeep is a 1947 motel . It is 59 years old
I though that something 59 years old would be old enough,
Please read my comments and tell me if you thank it deserve
1---- 5
2---- 10
3---- 23
If I had entered something made in the same year but looked like a peace of junk do you thank I would have done better ?
The Title reflected the year the jeep was made.
Why would I not tell the truth
I Had the same with my entry, you are not alone !!!!!!
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Message edited by author 2006-04-27 04:51:51. |
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