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04/26/2006 02:31:16 AM · #1 |
Ok I did poorly in this challange and got alot of good feedback and some quite rude too. So thought I would address both at the same time.
First lets mee the challange discription "Details: Capture a color portrait of a person in a studio-like environment." Well I dont have a studio so I worked with a local park that many pro photogs use for senior pics, bridal shots ect.. my inspritation for th shot was a local studio that actually brought in live sod live rabbits and a realistic looking background. So why is a studio have to be indoors when so much studio equipment and time is trying to look like out doors? I knew it was a stretch but hey I have to work with what I have and that is no studio.
Yes I was in shade and I was using a fill flash...Once I calibrated my monitor(big hint there) I noticed the image wasnt quite right. So I followed the suggestions of a few and did an edit.
So some more about me you might not know. 1) I am red green color blind not totally so but some shades of them fade to green so I tend to like adrker images and cool tones because I see them corectly while atthe same time it makes it more difficult to see red and green..oh well. 2) I primairly us my computer fo playing games so alot of times my monitor is calibrated for gameing, WAY WAY diffrent than photography.
So to those who gave me good critisim and input thank you I hope the edit is more to the standard of what you were looking for. For those that were rude...well I had a rude retort reserved but decided not to stoop to that level. Just know that I look atthe profiles ofpeople and their shots and weigh their worth accordingly, but alas one day rudness like that will keep me from being here.
Please comment on the edit or this thread and any suggestions or additional help would be appreciated as I am still really new to all this and am worried about making a really red or really green baby and not know it ;)
my orginal image
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=321907
my edit
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=326607 |
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04/26/2006 02:36:09 AM · #2 |
Mcuh improved. The edit seems a bit flat though, might want to bump the contrast up in curves a bit.
I just posted some links Yesterday ;-)
//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=383279
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04/26/2006 02:51:42 AM · #3 |
I too am fairly new and like you, am learning from my mistakes, but mostly from the comments I get.
To be honest, I read all of the comments and didn't see a single "rude" comment. I saw constructive criticism, suggestions and several compliments. Trust me, I would love to have as many comments as you receive.
Comments can be difficult to receive if all we want to hear is what we did right. I know, trust me, getting a comment that tells me how I could have done it better might sting the old pride, but I am here to learn. Even if my commentator hasn't won a ribbon, or maybe just started him/herself, their input is valuable to me. The best example I have is my golf game - I can see when others make mistakes or don't do it quite right. One would think from my coaching I was a good player - not so much. |
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04/26/2006 03:21:13 AM · #4 |
Okay, I'll take a stab at it. Here's your entry, followed by your edited version:
 
You've explained about your monitor and you color vision. The monitor, if I may be blunt, there's no excuse for. If you're going to be VIEWING photographs, especially for voting, let alone EDITING them, the monitor should be as well-calibrated for that as possible. If you have a different setting you prefer for games, you should be sure to change settings whenever you are doing photo-related work.
The color of the original entry is terribly green, presumably due to your color vision problem. The color on the edited version is better, but still very unnatural. The contrast on both versions is way too flat. There's actually a very nice image lurking in there. I applied auto color to it and then did a quick contrast mask (a simple curves adjustment might accomplish nearly the same thing), and with no other localized corrections came up with this:
Now the image has some pop, and the colors are far more natural. How to relate this to your vision problems I don't know. But it's a nice shot that got hammered far worse than it should have because the processing was so weak, and on top of that it wasn't shot in a studio environment. We can argue 'til the cows come home about "outdoor studios" (I'm in favor of including them myself) but in the end it's udnerstandable the voters did not see this as especially relevant to the challenge.
Nevertheless, your composition is decent and your lighting is decent; the fill flash is used well. Your point-of-view is excellent; you are to be commended for getting right down to kid level, domething surprisingly few adults bother to do. I'd be happy with this picture if it were mine; it's not a world-beater but it's clean and engaging and altogether satisfactory. The processing issues you can learn to deal with; the exposure, composition, fill ighting etc you clearly have a reasonable grasp of already.
Hope this helps.
Robt.
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04/26/2006 06:07:36 AM · #5 |
| another idea is to find a "photo buddy" one you can ask to have a glance at your entry to see if it needs tweaking somehow... this can be someone else in yrou house... a friend...etc |
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04/26/2006 10:13:10 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by jimpearce:
I too am fairly new and like you, am learning from my mistakes, but mostly from the comments I get.
To be honest, I read all of the comments and didn't see a single "rude" comment. I saw constructive criticism, suggestions and several compliments. Trust me, I would love to have as many comments as you receive.
Comments can be difficult to receive if all we want to hear is what we did right. I know, trust me, getting a comment that tells me how I could have done it better might sting the old pride, but I am here to learn. Even if my commentator hasn't won a ribbon, or maybe just started him/herself, their input is valuable to me. The best example I have is my golf game - I can see when others make mistakes or don't do it quite right. One would think from my coaching I was a good player - not so much. |
Lol not pride here man. Yeah I think it is rude to say stuff like "Did you read the challenge?" while the res of the comment my have been nicer there are some with portions that are very close minded and impolite, even hurtful.
Foto, thanks will look at that more tonight when I have time.
Bear, I agree and disagree at times with monitor calibration, switching is a PITA, and my normal balance works well for other pics, just others monitors are not up to my standards ;)On a more serious note thanks for the edit and the help
Di,My wife and a semi-pro friend of mine proof my pics. they usually dont make any comment on color. My semi pro friend ont this one didnt think I used a flsh either but no comment on colors, will ask to be more specific on this in the future. |
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