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04/16/2006 01:33:41 PM · #1 |
I hope someone can help me.
After I have edited the photo, resized and saved for web everything is fine BUT once I upload to dpc my image looks paler or desaturated somehow.
I remember having to change a setting in PS Pro but it doesn't appear to be the same in CS2. Please help I need to correct it for Colour Portrait.
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04/16/2006 01:35:33 PM · #2 |
Make sure you have assigned the sRGB color profile to your image. You can do this in "image/mode/assign profile". If you are working in a "larger" color profile like Adobe RGB, you can lose a lot when you view the image on the web.
R.
Message edited by author 2006-04-16 13:36:45.
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04/16/2006 01:39:09 PM · #3 |
I'd go with Bear's assumption. Make sure you are working in sRGB.
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04/16/2006 01:40:26 PM · #4 |
Thanks for being so fast Bear, I have RGB as a choice not sRGB.
That's where I'm stumped.
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04/16/2006 01:43:37 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Node: Thanks for being so fast Bear, I have RGB as a choice not sRGB.
That's where I'm stumped. |
I don't have CS2 (I use 7.0) but I find that hard to believe. In 7,0 there's an arrow and a drop-down list with over 20 color profile options on it, of which two near the top are sRGB and Adobe RGB. Are you looking deep enough?
R.
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04/16/2006 01:43:52 PM · #6 |
Use the "Save for Web" feature and it'll convert it to sRGB for you ;) |
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04/16/2006 01:45:34 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Megatherian: Use the "Save for Web" feature and it'll convert it to sRGB for you ;) |
Yeah, but it changes the colors when you do it. He wants the sRGB profile to be his working color space so he can SEE the colors as they will appear on the web. Since "save for web" is always used at the end of the workflow, that's not a practical approach.
R.
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04/16/2006 01:53:32 PM · #8 |
I did a search and it said to use "Edit" "Convert to profile" that has changed to profile to sRGB for that photo but when I go through the process of resizing and sfw it still appears different when viewed on dpc... grrrrr very frustrating
Maybe if I save it and re open it with sRGB as the profile?
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04/16/2006 01:54:25 PM · #9 |
Under the menu Edit > Assign Profile .. prings up a dialog box where you can assign the profile to the open image -- listed as sRGB-IEC61966-2.1
Set the default working color spaces under Edit > Color Settings for all subsequent images.
Message edited by author 2006-04-16 13:54:47. |
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04/16/2006 02:01:30 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Node: I did a search and it said to use "Edit" "Convert to profile" that has changed to profile to sRGB for that photo but when I go through the process of resizing and sfw it still appears different when viewed on dpc... grrrrr very frustrating
Maybe if I save it and re open it with sRGB as the profile? |
You want to use "assign profile", not "convert to profile"; the one is an overlay, as it were, the other makes a permanent change. If you convert from a larger color space to a smaller one, there's no way to move back up the scale accurately. And you may use different color profiles for different uses of the image in the future.
R.
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04/16/2006 02:09:00 PM · #11 |
When using Adobe CS2 the color space setting can be found at: edit>color settings or shift+cntrl+k. |
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04/16/2006 02:15:10 PM · #12 |
i was recently having trouble myself ... before i figured out that my MONITOR COLOR PROFILE (not photoshop image profile) was set to RGB and not sRGB ... seemed to fix my problems |
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04/16/2006 02:16:06 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Node: Thanks for being so fast Bear, I have RGB as a choice not sRGB.
That's where I'm stumped. |
I do have CS2... In your "Destination Intent:" there is a popup menu that should have 'sRGB' as a choice. Let me explain...
Like most people, I set my working color space as 'Adobe RGB (1998)'. I also think that is CS2's default. It works best for post processing and for prints. When preparing an image for the web I normally do not use "File->Save for Web" because I like to preserve EXIF data when uploading to my PBase galleries that automatically imports and displays EXIF.
Instead, when preparing an image for the web, I select "Edit->Convert to Profile" where I have "Destination Space" set to 'sRGB' and the Set BlackPoint Compensation, Use Dither and Flatten Image boxes checked. My conversion "Intent:" is set to "Relative Colormetric". That seems to have the best color match later after being uploaded to the web.
Then I crop, resized, apply Smart Sharpen before selecting "File-Save as" where I append a "w" to the file name to indicate 'web' and pick .jpg as my file type for output. That keeps everything nice, neat and tidy. ;)
Hope that is not confusing.
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04/16/2006 02:27:38 PM · #14 |
I've had this exact same issue with saving for the web. I'm watching this thread closely for tips. Of course I just went out of town for the weekend to my parents so I'll have to wait till tuesday to try any of this. So this thread just might pop back up with some more questions in a couple days. |
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04/16/2006 02:42:05 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by hopper: i was recently having trouble myself ... before i figured out that my MONITOR COLOR PROFILE (not photoshop image profile) was set to RGB and not sRGB ... seemed to fix my problems |
Only problem with that is that I'm viewing on the same computer.
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04/16/2006 02:46:29 PM · #16 |
how does save for web differ from the regular save?
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04/16/2006 02:47:44 PM · #17 |
so was i
i can't explain it, and i'm sure there's more to it ... but that's what happened :)
i wish i could help you further
Originally posted by Node: Originally posted by hopper: i was recently having trouble myself ... before i figured out that my MONITOR COLOR PROFILE (not photoshop image profile) was set to RGB and not sRGB ... seemed to fix my problems |
Only problem with that is that I'm viewing on the same computer. |
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04/16/2006 02:54:12 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Elmakias: how does save for web differ from the regular save? |
Save for Web allows you to specify a target size for the file, basically, and maximizes quality within that target size. It also strips the EXIF infor from the image, freeing up a small amount of additional space. SFW does many other things as well, if you're into web site creation, but these are the important things for us.
I can't tell you how many times I saved-as jpg at what it SAID was 149Kb only to have DPC refuse a challenge entry because it exceed the file size limit. I'd have to go back and resave. The difference was the EXIF info that piggybacks on the file.
Now I use save for web and specify target size 150kb and it works every time.
R.
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04/16/2006 02:55:07 PM · #19 |
I'm having the exact same issue. I may have figured it out though. |
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04/16/2006 02:59:22 PM · #20 |
I find it strange that I have just started (or just noticed) to have this problem (Colour Portrait) Maybe it was there but unseen as I take few people shots especially portrait.
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04/16/2006 03:05:56 PM · #21 |
I had the same problem when uploading a picture for the candid challenge after saving it as a jpeg from lightroom. After uploading the colors looked horrible; real flat with no saturation. I couldn't figure out how to remove the photo from the challenge, so I left it. It took a real hit in the voting because of this, averaging a 4.7 so far. It's not a super great photo, but I think it would have been a little over a five had this not happened. Does anyone know if lightroom lets you assign color profiles when you export files? Also is there a way to resize the photo like in CS2? I basically just had to play with the jpeg quality slider until the file was under 150kb, after assigning the max pixel diminsions to be 640. Seems like there should be a better way to do this, maybe in the final release I hope. |
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04/16/2006 03:20:55 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music: I can't tell you how many times I saved-as jpg at what it SAID was 149Kb only to have DPC refuse a challenge entry because it exceed the file size limit. I'd have to go back and resave. The difference was the EXIF info that piggybacks on the file. |
In earlier versions of Photoshop there's a check-box in the SaveAs dialog which allows you to "omit non-image data" which is the EXIF and IPTC (File Info) data, avoiding any "hidden charges" to your file-size limit. |
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04/16/2006 03:39:25 PM · #23 |
Is there any possibility it is something on the site that has changed? I'm not sure if that even makes sense, but it's strange a number of people have noticed things at the same time. |
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04/16/2006 03:48:37 PM · #24 |
I was reading this earlier and the last post is correct you need to check your that "proof colors" is selected under view and then check "Proof View" is set to Monitor RGB. This willl allow you to see the image as it looks when uploaded.
Thnks to oOWonderbreadOo
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04/16/2006 03:49:51 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo: Is there any possibility it is something on the site that has changed? I'm not sure if that even makes sense, but it's strange a number of people have noticed things at the same time. |
I had the same problem but if check my last post that seemed to fix it.
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