Selective color, legal in basic?

04/04/2006 10:18:02 PM · #1

Uhh, yeah, that's the question. Is it legal to use Selective Color in PS in basic editing? It's a lot like Hue/saturation, but something about the "selective" part of it is a bit worrisome. I've only used it in personal photos and in my advanced editing pic so far, but I'd like to know for future.

Thanky!

idnic

Canon EOS-60D

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

04/04/2006 10:21:50 PM · #2

There is a tutorial of ONE method for doing it in basic - but not easy on all photos.

faidoi

Pentax K10D

04/04/2006 10:25:19 PM · #3

Earlier thread from today.

luv2photo

Canon EOS-40D

Tamron AF 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 XR Di VC LD Aspherical(IF)Macro

04/04/2006 10:27:53 PM · #4

This photo may very well fall under the basic editing guidelines. The only edits performed, adjustment layers of saturation/hues. I adjusted saturation of the yellows and reds only.

Took me a moment to get the right photo...sorry

Message edited by author 2006-04-04 22:29:07.

Artyste

Sony Ericsson W810i

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Pentax

04/04/2006 10:28:15 PM · #5

Better be legal, or pretty much every open challenge I've entered in the last year or so has to be DQ'd. lol.

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

04/04/2006 10:50:41 PM · #6

Originally posted by eschelar:

I can see why you think it might be a problem since the software is doing the masking for you behind the scenes so technically it shouldn't be allowed but it is. Frankly, I don't get why manually masking your images to selective adjust is banned. What is at the root of the rules that forbid masking? If it's protecting "photographic integrity" then selective color is just as guilty at damaging that integrity. Anyway, I've giving up trying to figure out the philosophy behind the rules and just consider them a random collection of rules we must abide by.

Message edited by author 2006-04-04 22:51:45.

Carl Zeiss 50mm ZE f/1.4 Planar T for Canon

04/04/2006 10:56:57 PM · #7

Ok, just a quick clarification, I've been using "Hue/saturation" since reading that tutorial some months ago and I understand that it is legal in basic, but recently I've also been playing with the "selective color"

It's able to do some things that the Hue-saturation can't do as it may or may not use a SELECTION to which it applies a hue adjustment. To my eye, this seems like it is selecting based on colors, then making adjustments to SPECIFIC PARTS of the picture. Hue/saturation appears to just apply a set of adjustments to every pixel in the whole picture.

So the question again is: Is the "Selective Color" (accessed from the Image drop-down menu) legal in basic?

Edit: Oops, missed the link to the other thread, sorry. Yanko, I believe you answered my question, but also raised a reason that I would like an OK stamp in my thread too...

Funny that someone else would post the same thread on the same morning. I've been thinking about posting this question for a few days, but kept forgetting.

Message edited by author 2006-04-04 22:59:33.

yanko

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

04/04/2006 11:00:30 PM · #8

Yes it's 100% legal. Since you're applying the filter to the entire image that makes it ok even thought the software might be implimenting it selectively.

Node

Nikon D300

Tamron SP AF 17-35mm f/2.8-4 Di LD Aspherical IF for Nikon

04/04/2006 11:04:27 PM · #9

Off my memory it is not (I don't have time to check atm)!

The reason is that it is an adjustment made to a select portion of the photo rather that the whole photo such as hue saturation etc would do.

Using Select colour other things could also be adjusted, levels, curves etc as long as I'm thinking of the right tool that is.

Well Yanko got in first... and we differ BUT I may be thinking of the wrong tool!

Message edited by author 2006-04-04 23:06:06.

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

04/04/2006 11:11:50 PM · #10

Thanks. That's what I needed. Yes. I will carry on.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

04/05/2006 12:14:00 AM · #11

Originally posted by yanko:

Yes it's 100% legal. Since you're applying the filter to the entire image that makes it ok even thought the software might be implimenting it selectively.

Don't confuse people: it's an "Adjustment" and not a "Filter".

Adjustments change the color of pixels, while filters (mostly) move pixels relative to each other.