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03/24/2006 01:38:26 AM · #1 |
$420 for a 15 month 300D, is this a good deal?
with kit lens...
I read that the 300D has a rather poor shutterlag as a dSLR, what are your comment on this? The startup time is really 3 seconds?
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03/24/2006 01:40:46 AM · #2 |
| welcome to the dark side mista! |
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03/24/2006 01:41:13 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by Rikki: welcome to the dark side mista! |
not yet! |
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03/24/2006 01:41:27 AM · #4 |
Hey, for a little more you can get a Nikon D50 body at B&H for $509!
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03/24/2006 01:42:53 AM · #5 |
yeah go Nikon - then you can pay more for your lenses later. :p
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03/24/2006 01:43:11 AM · #6 |
No, the start up time is nowhere near 3 seconds... it's more like a second.
I've not noticed a lot of shutterlag... it's actually quite fast in continuous mode.
And that is a pretty sweet deal.
EDIT to add: I love mine.
Message edited by author 2006-03-24 01:45:30.
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03/24/2006 01:43:54 AM · #7 |
I used to own a 300D..... It was amazing....and no, the startup time isn't three seconds, at least it didn't seem like it. And the shutter lag was unnoticable to me....
I paid about 600 for mine only 4 months ago with the kit lense....so I'd say that is a pretty good deal on your part.
Alas, I sold it and bought my FZ20 and never looked back, lol.
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03/24/2006 01:50:27 AM · #8 |
Hey, I really don't care if he buys Canon or Nikon as they are both great systems but I don't see how people can call it a 'great deal" when you can buy a brand new D50, which is a much more modern camera body, for $509. I mean the kit lens that is coming with that offer is basically a throw away as you can get them used for well under $100.
But to each his own. Remember crayon after you buy the body the "want" lens purchases will come, they will always come. LOL.
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03/24/2006 01:55:21 AM · #9 |
OK okay, I guess reading more on the D50 wont hurt...
Thanks for the input, guys :) |
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03/24/2006 02:00:22 AM · #10 |
Crayon, the best advice I can give you (notice I have both Nikon and Canon cameras) is to weigh your options. Look at prices of lenses you may want, flashes, etc... availability of used equipment.
This is not a life-ending decision, both manufacturers are great. Just make a choice that is good for your wallet and needs.
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03/24/2006 04:48:26 AM · #11 |
| I love my Pentax - and you can get lots of old (manual focus) lenses on ebay for very little... Pentax made sure their new bodies work with the old lenses, unlike N & C... |
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03/24/2006 05:22:42 AM · #12 |
You're not only bying a camera Crayon. You're buying into a system that you will likely stay with as long as you are into photography. So take your time and decide what you want 5 years from now. Because your purchase now will decide this.
I would personally not hesitate to buy Canon but I'm biased. Nikon is probably just as good but here in Norway they have troubles lately delivering cameras. 2 friends of mine have been waiting almost 3 months for new Nikon D200 cameras. This should not happen.
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03/24/2006 05:33:43 AM · #13 |
I'm very happy with my 350D - the 300D is almost as good, but 420$ for a 15 mths old one is too much. Wait if you can spend 600-700 and you can get a used 350D.
Canon is a very good choice for life, i bought a EOS 100 about 12 years ago and still use the old lens with my 350D |
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03/24/2006 09:13:44 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by Leok: I love my Pentax - and you can get lots of old (manual focus) lenses on ebay for very little... Pentax made sure their new bodies work with the old lenses, unlike N & C... |
Uh...Nikon hasn't changed their mount in ages. You can use some pretty darn ancient MF lenses with new Nikon bodies. |
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03/24/2006 09:32:29 AM · #15 |
But why would you want to use ancient lenses? They often cost pretty close to the newer lenses in the 2nd hand markets and offer less performance. True, lots of guys enjoy using MF, but with newer lenses, you get a choice.
It's interesting that someone should bring up the quality of the lens in the 300D because really, it's not such a bad lens optically. True it's, cheap and it's not L class, but that kinda makes sense doesn't it? A lot of people feel it's a throw-away lens because of that plastic mount. Interestingly, the same reasoning might be applied to the D50, which also features a similar plastic mount.
So the reasoning to skip the 300D because it has a crappy (replaceable) lens, to go for a D50 (which has a non-replaceable, and similar lens mount) is somewhat odd.
For now, I'm going to guess that a starter pack of lenses for Crayon's budget is going to be largely consisting of cheaper lenses.
I would suggest the kit lens and the 70-300 APO by Sigma for starters. Then from there, if you want to go sharper and play with macro, get a 50mm prime, if you want to go wider, or longer or just better overall, there are other choices there.
Most of these choices are pretty much the same across the brands thanks to the good entry-level options in the 3rd party market, but as you move to higher end gear, Canon prices are usually cheaper (often by a fair bit) compared to the same level of Nikon glass. If you are going to go with mostly 3rd party lenses, then body brand becomes much less of an issue and again, Nikon has trouble offering more than KM.
When he's rich and famous, that might not matter, but Canon works out better in the end for the pocketbook and there's pretty much no way around that.
Besides, we all know that Nikon and Konica Minolta 5D use the same sensor, and their lenses cost almost exactly the same in each niche with no sacrifice in quality, but for a couple hundred dollars more, you can get the 5D which gives you AS, even with your cheap lenses.
Camera prices are leveling off right now. The 300D IS a capable camera and could even be said to be a good camera in many respects. It won't go down toooo much below the 400 dollar mark in the next year, so I'd say it's a good deal.
Message edited by author 2006-03-24 09:37:22. |
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