"Pick Two" Results Recalculated - DPChallenge Forums

Nikon AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D

03/20/2006 05:33:37 PM · #1

The results of the 'Pick Two' challenge have been recalculated, as the image formerly in 4th place was disqualified due to the photographer not being able to provide an unaltered original.

fotomann_forever

03/20/2006 05:35:56 PM · #2

Eeek! One more space higher for the PB Princess.

frisca

Nikon D70

03/20/2006 06:45:51 PM · #3

A reminder to everyone to PLEASE save a COPY of your image for editing purposes so that you have an intact original FROM CAMERA with no changes that you can submit for proof of your image.

This is probably the ONLY objective rule that we have, and while we are completely sympathetic to those who may accidentally save over their originals, the best we can suggest is using some sort of file recovery software to get the image off your memory card again.

We hate to this type of DQ happen, so PLEASE read the rules, save a proper original and check your camera dates before shooting!

Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 Aspherical XR IF Super Zoom for Nikon

03/20/2006 06:57:48 PM · #4

If it's rotated, does that still count as original? I've been wondering this.

Rikki

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Nikon

03/20/2006 07:11:06 PM · #5

doubt it. the EXIF has been tampered at that point. I think.

FranziskaLang

Nikon D100

03/20/2006 07:12:32 PM · #6

I don't think so. Most software changes the exif data when rotating your file (unless it's rotated in camera), and then it would no longer be the original.

Originally posted by rachelellen:

If it's rotated, does that still count as original? I've been wondering this.

KarenNfld

03/20/2006 07:22:11 PM · #7

Originally posted by Rikki:

doubt it. the EXIF has been tampered at that point. I think.

Not so sure about that. I use ACDSee to rotate my pics and the EXIF data doesn't change.

fotomann_forever

03/20/2006 07:27:08 PM · #8

Originally posted by KarenNfld:

Not so sure about that. I use ACDSee to rotate my pics and the EXIF data doesn't change.

It's generally a good idea to leave your originals untouched and unrotated. The reason being, if you are shooting JPEG is that every save introduces some compression artifacts.

Rikki

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

03/20/2006 08:10:46 PM · #9

Originally posted by KarenNfld:

Originally posted by Rikki:
doubt it. the EXIF has been tampered at that point. I think.

Not so sure about that. I use ACDSee to rotate my pics and the EXIF data doesn't change.

i got my first DQ like this ;)

KarenNfld

03/20/2006 08:31:46 PM · #10

Originally posted by Rikki:

Originally posted by KarenNfld:

Originally posted by Rikki:
doubt it. the EXIF has been tampered at that point. I think.

Not so sure about that. I use ACDSee to rotate my pics and the EXIF data doesn't change.

i got my first DQ like this ;)

But it doesn't make sense. Just rotate it back and send that in, like I said, the EXIF doesn't change one bit when I use ACDSee.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

03/20/2006 09:42:16 PM · #11

If the EXIF says that you used ACDSee, then that right there says it's not an "original."

The safest way to do this is to copy from the card to the hard drive using your computer's operating system (card readers are great and cheap!), and then always work on a copy of that file.

If you are shooting in JPEG, then you should be saving a copy for editing in Photoshop or TIFF or other lossless format anyway.

Rikki

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

03/20/2006 09:45:33 PM · #12

Originally posted by KarenNfld:

Originally posted by Rikki:

Originally posted by KarenNfld:

Originally posted by Rikki:
doubt it. the EXIF has been tampered at that point. I think.

Not so sure about that. I use ACDSee to rotate my pics and the EXIF data doesn't change.

i got my first DQ like this ;)

But it doesn't make sense. Just rotate it back and send that in, like I said, the EXIF doesn't change one bit when I use ACDSee.

My first DQ was just viewed via ACDSee while in the flash card and that modified the EXIF settings. I'm not saying it's not probable but I now play it safe. Always back up and don't touch it at all ;) Just like what Paul says ;)

idnic

Canon EOS-60D

03/20/2006 09:50:20 PM · #13

When you rotate with ACDSee it saves the rotated version. When you rotate back it saves that version. You now have a version that has been saved/compressed twice. No longer original.

xianart

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

03/21/2006 06:01:37 AM · #14

wow, i had no idea. thanks very much for this important tip!

Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 Aspherical XR IF Super Zoom for Nikon

03/21/2006 08:15:08 PM · #15

Thanks! I'm glad I asked. Up till now I've always rotated them in Windows Explorer as necessary, as soon as I moved them from the card via a card reader. I'll add an extra step whereby I make an extra copy of all of them right off the bat, and then leave those alone except to delete the ones that are non-keepers.

Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 Aspherical XR IF Super Zoom for Nikon

03/21/2006 08:17:12 PM · #16

And while we're talking about EXIF tampering:

The Nikon D70s (and I think the D70 as well) writes the ISO in a really obscure area of the EXIF data which I can never get any of my several programs to show me. I downloaded a program that moves it to a different area, so to speak, so that it will show up in EXIF Reader and the like. I assume that is NOT OK for the originals which I'll be leaving alone and unrotated from this day forward?

alanfreed

Nikon Z9

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

03/21/2006 08:32:19 PM · #17

I'm not the best person to answer your question... but I can say that Nikon View will show you the ISO value right out in the open with the D70s.

Originally posted by rachelellen: