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03/17/2006 09:52:26 PM · #1 |
| The entries previously in 4th and 31st places have been disqualified for violating basic editing rules and failure to provide an original, respectively. Congrats to everyone who moved up a spot! |
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03/17/2006 10:36:10 PM · #2 |
deja vu...seems to be happening a lot lately
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03/17/2006 10:55:51 PM · #3 |
| Is there a statute of limitations on DQs? How long do I have to keep an EXIF around? |
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03/17/2006 10:59:01 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Is there a statute of limitations on DQs? How long do I have to keep an EXIF around? |
With storage space so cheap these days, why would you ever throw out the original of a photo good enough to be an entry?
We try to review them during the voting and the following week, but if a violation is called to our attention it can be DQd essentially at any time. |
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03/17/2006 11:07:57 PM · #5 |
I could understand doing that for intentional cheaters, but to go after someone who accidentally breaks some rule months later seems excessive. There's a statute of limitations for robbing a bank, but not for making a mistake on a dpchallenge?
ok, I'll shut up now before all my previous challenge entries get examined. I don't want to lose any of my brown ribbons! |
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03/17/2006 11:14:20 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
I could understand doing that for intentional cheaters, but to go after someone who accidentally breaks some rule months later seems excessive. There's a statute of limitations for robbing a bank, but not for making a mistake on a dpchallenge?
ok, I'll shut up now before all my previous challenge entries get examined. I don't want to lose any of my brown ribbons! |
I dont think they ever go looking for a reason to DQ a shot after a week or so. But if they have a reason you are like fresh meat...beware.
I am kidding...sleep well :) |
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03/17/2006 11:15:19 PM · #7 |
Maybe a SC member can help me with this one...but does the top 5 have to send in there orginal picture? Or is it just the top 3?
Message edited by author 2006-03-17 23:15:53. |
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03/17/2006 11:16:08 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by philup:
Maybe a SC member can help me with this one...but does the top 5 have to send in there orginal picture? Or is it just the top 3? |
I am not, but yes. |
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03/17/2006 11:18:15 PM · #9 |
Didn't this image get DQ'd a good month or more after the challenge? Seems like it did.
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03/17/2006 11:20:16 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by dudephil:
Didn't this image get DQ'd a good month or more after the challenge? Seems like it did.
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Yep. Not taken during the proper time span! Why it took so long..don't know
Message edited by author 2006-03-17 23:20:52.
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03/17/2006 11:21:30 PM · #11 |
The top five are required to submit originals automatically.
One reason for this is that if a ribbon-winner is DQd, the shot which takes its place will have already been through the process.
In the highly unlikely event of all three ribbon-winners being DQd, the new Third-Place (formerly sixth) photo would also have to submit an original, and, as people sometimes joke, so on down the line until they get to your photo.
Did you people burn lots of negatives too, or stick them in a drawer? I still don't understand throwing away the original (any original). I can definitely understand not being able to find it with 48 hours notice though ... : )
Message edited by author 2006-03-17 23:22:00. |
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03/17/2006 11:23:37 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by dudephil:
Didn't this image get DQ'd a good month or more after the challenge? Seems like it did.
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I think they found multiple infractions and they went through all his shots, and he is gone now.
Message edited by author 2006-03-17 23:26:55. |
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03/17/2006 11:24:49 PM · #13 |
| So if you go on vacation 2 weeks after a challenge ends...? |
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03/17/2006 11:26:00 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by meanwile:
So if you go on vacation 2 weeks after a challenge ends...? |
I would send my orginal before you go on vacation! |
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03/17/2006 11:32:19 PM · #15 |
If you went on vacation two weeks after a challenge ends, and we requested proof and could see that you had not been online since we requested it, the 48 hours limitation might be relaxed a bit.
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03/17/2006 11:37:18 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by karmat:
If you went on vacation two weeks after a challenge ends, and we requested proof and could see that you had not been online since we requested it, the 48 hours limitation might be relaxed a bit. |
"Might be"? I'd sure as heck hope so...
R.
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03/17/2006 11:51:39 PM · #17 |
| Damn. Too bad as Caleb`s image was great. But I guess that 6.66 is indeed the bad karma :( |
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03/17/2006 11:53:37 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by karmat:
If you went on vacation two weeks after a challenge ends, and we requested proof and could see that you had not been online since we requested it, the 48 hours limitation might be relaxed a bit. |
"Might be"? I'd sure as heck hope so...
R. |
Yea :) But, please understand, things said in these forums, regardless of the context, seem to be written down somewhere as SC law, and I'm a little gun shy about making absolute statements.
:P |
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03/17/2006 11:56:48 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by karmat:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by karmat:
If you went on vacation two weeks after a challenge ends, and we requested proof and could see that you had not been online since we requested it, the 48 hours limitation might be relaxed a bit. |
"Might be"? I'd sure as heck hope so...
R. |
Yea :) But, please understand, things said in these forums, regardless of the context, seem to be written down somewhere as SC law, and I'm a little gun shy about making absolute statements.
:P |
Yah. I forgot my smiley... Sorry... I hear ya loud and clear.
R.
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03/18/2006 12:15:23 AM · #20 |
I'm confused. Could anybody request a DQ even after the voting period is long over? Or are you just talking about requests made during the voting period (or those that fall under the top 5 rule) that you just don't get around to in two week's time? In other words could someone request a DQ for a 2004 challenge entry?
Message edited by author 2006-03-18 00:16:19. |
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03/18/2006 12:24:28 AM · #21 |
Speaking of Music and Bears, Bear_Music posted some information a while back on WORKFLOW.
It had some REALLY practical suggestions for general use as well as for challenges.
Interestingly, although it requires more files to be saved, I've not found that my Pictures folder has ballooned wildly out of control as far as space is concerned. In fact, because it organizes things and gives me a more clear vision of what I want to do, I often end up using LESS file-space.
A brief overview of his workflow combined with some of my own. It applies to .jpg files.
1. Choose a project title and create a folder for it (IE - Sunset March 2006). Copy the original into the folder.
1B. (my addition) Within the Project folder, create an Outtakes folder if there are other possible pics that have serious merit and need to be considered
2. PHOTOSHOP - Open the original and IMMEDIATELY save as .psd. Close the original and LEAVE IT ALONE.
Other PP program - Open the original and IMMEDIATELY save as .tiff or your preferred non-compressed format.
3. You may then work on the picture and save alternates as desired.
4. (my addition) Once you've separated your DCIM/Canon_001 (or whatever your image folders are called) into projects, you can be more free to delete crummy pics. If you have sentimental attachment to pics that didn't turn out photographically well, make a folder called "Sentimental" or something and dump them in. Delete the rest of the images and (if you are finished with the projects, or even if not finished) move the whole thing to a BURN ME folder (I only burn occasionally.. I know, it's dangerous, but my pictures aren't really THAT important :) or simply add to a multi-session CD for archiving.
If you want the real version, do a forum search.
CD burners are cheap enough that most people who have a computer and a digital camera ought to have some kind of solution.
Taking these suggestions has helped me improve my organization a great deal. If you know that things are disorganized in your photos folder, it can be a bit of a detractor from actually getting down and doing the PP work. Having it organized is just an invitation to get in there, work and learn! |
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03/18/2006 12:32:05 AM · #22 |
It sure wasn't relaxed for me when I was out of town for one week after the challenge ended.
Originally posted by karmat:
If you went on vacation two weeks after a challenge ends, and we requested proof and could see that you had not been online since we requested it, the 48 hours limitation might be relaxed a bit. |
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03/18/2006 12:36:02 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by eschelar:
Speaking of Music and Bears, Bear_Music posted some information a while back on WORKFLOW.
It had some REALLY practical suggestions for general use as well as for challenges.... |
Let me add to this that it's REALLY Helpful if your saved versions, especially including the one you enter in the challenge, include as part of the filename the original camera file number.
I work from RAW, and my converter saves "DNMSC_1234.CR2" as "IMG_1234.TIF", into an "edited" subfolder of the original download folder. So when I go to work in PS I immediately save the TIFF as a PSD, titled "Blue_Boat_IMG_1234.psd" or whatever. I now have in my "originals" folder the untouched RAW, in my "edited" subfolder the untouched TIFF, and in the same folder my working master PSD with a descriptive filename that includes the same image number as the RAW and TIFF versions.
When I save further versions, I always leave on the original file number, so I can always find the original later (much later) using a search function. I periodically move everything off my computer to an external hard drive, so it's easy to lose track... If I'm ever asked for validation after the fact, I'll be able to find my original no problem.
R.
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03/18/2006 12:36:26 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by karmat:
Yea :) But, please understand, things said in these forums, regardless of the context, seem to be written down somewhere as SC law, and I'm a little gun shy about making absolute statements.
:P |
Thanks to those who addressed this 'vacation' question. With respect to the above, can someone please direct me to where these things are written down? Thanks.
(edit: clarity)
Message edited by author 2006-03-18 00:37:43. |
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03/18/2006 12:39:04 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by meanwile:
Originally posted by karmat:
Yea :) But, please understand, things said in these forums, regardless of the context, seem to be written down somewhere as SC law, and I'm a little gun shy about making absolute statements.
:P |
Thanks to those who addressed this 'vacation' question. With respect to the above, can someone please direct me to where these things are written down? Thanks.
(edit: clarity) |
//dpchallenge.com/challenge_rules.php |
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