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03/16/2006 05:31:26 PM · #1 |
I just wanted to get this across to some that may not be aware yet, and because I seem to be having some problems with this myself with some voters.
By the way, before I continue, I have decided this will be my last forum post ever at DPC, but that is neither here nor there. This isn't a post about that, but thought I would mention it so I won't receive so many PM's about where I am at. I am STILL here at DPC and will continue to be VERY active in the challenges and am concentrating on prints as well.
Aside from that, I just wanted to make some people aware of something when voting that I wasn't quite sure may be known before I leave discussions.
I have a photo in a current challenge that is still receiving comments wondering if it is really legally done with basic editing. One commentor eludes to them not wanting to vote it at all and is leaving it up to others to vote on it instead who may be more apt to knowing the difference in editing rules. Several other comments point blank ask me if my photo is legal, and some point blank say it is not legal.
With that said, it also seems that when a photo is validated by Site Council after a request has been submitted, it will no longer show up as it used to before - in red and under the title. It now only shows up if you hit the submit button for a request of validation. Once you hit the button to submit for validation, "only then" will you see that it has or has not been validated yet.
I am not sure if this has been announced by council, and if so, I am sorry as I have missed that post somewhere along the line.
PLEASE, do not be intimidated or feel it not worth your time, and HIT that button if you think a photo is not legal. It is not fair that a photo be passed by, or voted down, or voted half fastly, simply because one wonders if it is legal. You may very well find it to be legal, and the photographer's score needant have suffered.
There are MANY creative photographers here at DPC, and I myself pride myself on becoming even more creative then ever before, and have already started. Two of the challenges I entered in the last 2 weeks have had requests for validation due to the creativity of the photos. I put a lot of work and thought into my entries to be different and/or creative, as many do. One should not suffer for hard work, but should benefit from it.
Please, if you are going to take the time to write a comment about the validation and the legalities of an entry, then you can also take the time to hit the button to see if it HAS been validated. If it hasn't, simply write why you would like it to be, so that it can be. Then you can come back and vote on it later on if you feel it not worthy of a "decent" vote till you know for sure. OR at least come back and change your vote once you find out it's standing instead of just letting your vote hang as is.
Don't get me wrong though. If you think the photo isn't worthy of a decent vote be it legal or not, then by all means leave your vote as is. I am just asking that it not be voted down or wrongly due to wondering on the legalities.
Thank you for taking the time to read this,
Rose
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03/16/2006 05:41:03 PM · #2 |
| We're actually doing some modifications to the way the notice is showing up based on recent feedback. The message will now be in black text, rather than read. Currently, it's at the bottom of the page but we're looking at moving this back up again so that it's more obvious. |
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03/16/2006 05:41:59 PM · #3 |
Yes, this is a reminder that the challenge rules ask you to always vote the score you think the photo deserves assuming it is made completely legally.
If you suspect illegal editing, do hit the button, but if the photo's been validated ...
The formatting of the validation message has been modified a couple of times recently (Langdon likes to "experiment" with the site live) because of past problems with voters changing how they voted based on the big red message, and with photographers sometimes requesting validation of their own photos because of a perceived (and partially real) "advantage" in having the validation tag applied.
The site admins did not accept my suggestion for reformatting the validation tag so as to avoid giving the photo any advantage ...
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03/16/2006 05:44:48 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Rose8699:
By the way, before I continue, I have decided this will be my last forum post ever at DPC |
Haven't you stated this a few times already?
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03/16/2006 05:53:21 PM · #5 |
Rex, you rascal... you're just trying to get her to answer and break her vow!!
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03/16/2006 05:57:58 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
The site admins did not accept my suggestion for reformatting the validation tag so as to avoid giving the photo any advantage ...
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LMAO
@Rose
Where ya goin? TO not particiapte at all? You can't quit cold turkey you know - it'll turn you into one of us - Canon folks!
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03/16/2006 06:26:06 PM · #7 |
Please stay on topic, and refrain from baiting or teasing.
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03/16/2006 06:33:30 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by frisca:
Please stay on topic, and refrain from baiting or teasing. |
I wasn't baiting or teasing I was just asking.
Message edited by author 2006-03-16 18:38:16.
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03/16/2006 06:37:13 PM · #9 |
| my my... she just brings the fun times with her doesn't she... |
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03/16/2006 06:38:13 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by rex:
Originally posted by frisca:
Please stay on topic, and refrain from baiting or teasing. |
I wasn;t baiting or teasing I was just asking. |
I appreciate that, Rex. I didn't name any names, I just wanted to keep the topic on track.
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03/16/2006 06:39:04 PM · #11 |
topic what topic?
Shouldn't this be in rant? She is ranting right?
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03/16/2006 06:39:32 PM · #12 |
I know we've been over this many times, but why can't people just vote things assuming they're legal and leave the assessment of legality to the site council? That's what the instructions tell you to do. If you can read the rules, you should be able to read that too.
Message edited by author 2006-03-16 18:39:55. |
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03/16/2006 06:42:08 PM · #13 |
Lets keep beating this dead horse... I bet eventually it will change everyone's voting patterns....
... oh wait... no it won't |
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03/16/2006 06:44:43 PM · #14 |
I could say that the suggestion that the appaerance of illegal editing = creativity in action is absurd, but I won't.
Robt.
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03/16/2006 06:48:01 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by frisca:
Please stay on topic, and refrain from baiting or teasing. |
Sorry Pam, it's been a long day....please forgive.
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03/16/2006 06:50:56 PM · #16 |
It's sad but some people focus on the negative rather than the positive.
The current climate of paranoia surrounding the issue of cheating, DQs and "meet the challenge" sillyness fosters that type of thinking.
Eventually we will again remember that we are here to learn and have fun, that there is nothing of any real value at stake here.
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03/16/2006 06:51:00 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by naldslc:
Originally posted by frisca:
Please stay on topic, and refrain from baiting or teasing. |
Sorry Pam, it's been a long day....please forgive. |
No hard feelings at all, my friend! :) Thank you for understanding.
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03/16/2006 06:52:36 PM · #18 |
Rose you need to lighten up and enjoy life...looking at your site, you use a lot of angry upper case words. Maybe it's a good idea for Rose to take a break from the forums, and have a happier life, as it looks like this site makes her upset...just a thought!
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03/16/2006 06:53:19 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
It's sad but some people focus on the negative rather than the positive.
The current climate of paranoia surrounding the issue of cheating, DQs and "meet the challenge" sillyness fosters that type of thinking.
Eventually we will again remember that we are here to learn and have fun, that there is nothing of any real value at stake here. |
Excellent point... I think for the most part that is still the mentality. Some just take this a little too seriously.
I mean DPC is 1st in EVERY member life (right?... right??), but it is just for fun.......... |
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03/16/2006 06:53:52 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
have fun |
You know I'm having fun I posed for this shot.
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03/16/2006 07:03:41 PM · #21 |
Consider this a FINAL reminder that we do not tolerate baiting. So far, five different posts in this thread have been hidden.
This is the second reminder posted in this thread. Users who continue to ignore this rule will be dealt with accordingly.
~Terry
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03/16/2006 07:07:08 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I could say that the suggestion that the appaerance of illegal editing = creativity in action is absurd, but I won't.
Robt. |
Whew, glad ya didn't say it ;-)
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03/16/2006 07:48:25 PM · #23 |
wrong thread... :O)
Message edited by author 2006-03-16 19:49:56.
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03/23/2006 12:29:19 PM · #24 |
Part of being a photographer is having a thick skin.
It's hard when a photograph that you love is treated carelessly by the masses. As many people have mentioned, you can't always blame the masses however. Shake it off, regroup, and try again.
99.9% of the photographs I take are failures. It's that .01 that keeps me shooting.
Message edited by author 2006-03-23 12:31:40. |
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03/23/2006 12:30:39 PM · #25 |
I thought I killed this thread a week ago ... :-P
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