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03/13/2006 02:48:24 PM · #1 |
If this is legal
and I'm assuming it is (I like it very much by the way), where is the line where it comes to removing significant portions of the background.
Would this also be legal (except for the added text)? A more extreme cut of the background.
I ask because I would like to experiment more with this technique within the legal limits of the challenges.
Bill
Message edited by author 2006-03-13 14:49:37. |
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03/13/2006 10:04:23 PM · #2 |
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03/13/2006 10:07:55 PM · #3 |
| I'd like to know too. BUMP |
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03/13/2006 10:37:03 PM · #4 |
| inquiring minds need to know SC :) |
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03/13/2006 10:42:40 PM · #5 |
My own interpretation would be "not legal." The frame is not a crop but removes a substantial part of the photo selectively, which IMO is removing a major element. The first example removes essentially nothing but a little white space, quite a different thing.
It's admittedly a judgement call, and I'm speaking only for myself and not the SC as a group.
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03/13/2006 10:47:29 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
My own interpretation would be "not legal." The frame is not a crop but removes a substantial part of the photo selectively, which IMO is removing a major element. The first example removes essentially nothing but a little white space, quite a different thing.
It's admittedly a judgement call, and I'm speaking only for myself and not the SC as a group. |
I can agree with the gator pic on removing major elements. But what if (just a what-if scenario) just underneath the fly's leg, there is an ugly distracting element but is cleverly removed by the frame? |
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03/13/2006 10:53:18 PM · #7 |
But aren't we allowed to remove distracting things...like power lines and crap that distracts...quite sure I asked this question a long time ago and was told it was alright...see if I can find it
Clint
Found it
 
Off the subject...This was taken a while ago and if I had taken it now I would have done a better job editing it, very flat. Crazy how you can look back at photos you took a year or more ago that you thought looked good at the time and you look at now and they just don't do it for you, or that you might could do better now.
Message edited by author 2006-03-13 22:59:13.
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03/13/2006 10:56:38 PM · #8 |
IMO I do NOT feel it it legal to use your border in that manner. By letting the subject protrude out in front of the border as if coming out of the picture makes the border a major element. And we cannot add or remove major elements. Or at least that the way I see it.
HOWEVER, I am not a member of the site challenge and don't get to vote yea or nay so even though I'm 99.9% sure it's not legal I would ask SC first.
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03/13/2006 10:58:24 PM · #9 |
| we're allowed to as long as it isn't a major element ;) |
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03/13/2006 11:01:08 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by TomFoolery:
But aren't we allowed to remove distracting things...like power lines and crap that distracts...quite sure I asked this question a long time ago and was told it was alright...see if I can find it
Clint
Found it
Off the subject...This was taken a while ago and if I had taken it now I would have done a better job editing it, very flat. Crazy how you can look back at photos you took a year or more ago that you thought looked good at the time and you look at now and they just don't do it for you, or that you might could do better now. |
I feel this is legal because the removal of the background elements are small is comparison to the picture and by removing them it didn't remove a major element just a distracting one.
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03/13/2006 11:25:15 PM · #11 |
The background to the cicada was the dusty bonnet of my white car. Added the green border leaving his leg protruding over the border. I wasn't sure of the legality myself, so checked with one of SC prior to the challenge and got their opinion. Did get asked for validation during the challenge and imagine it was borderline as it took quite some time to get a decision through.
I would have been completely happy either way, as without dpc there's no way I would have thought to try something like that, to have the knowledge of how to do it. This place and it's people rock! The knowledgebase, the generosity of sharing information, the friendships you gain. It's priceless.
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03/14/2006 01:11:13 AM · #12 |
I thought I had seen it used in a past challenge:
But didn't realize it was one from so long ago. The rulings were a lot more forgiving concerning borders back then.
David
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03/14/2006 03:53:32 PM · #13 |
Strangely enough I was looking through the entries for that challenge and there were a couple that used that technique ...
that is my 2 cents .. i am off for a coffee : |
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