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 03/09/2006 03:25:18 PM · #51
Originally posted by mattmac:
Originally posted by joebok:
Well, I'm willing to go on the record as not being a fan. I favor challenges that encourage participation rather than observation.


Even if there would be your "Regularly Scheduled Challenges" during that time period?
This one would be just additional...and you'd be able to participate, you just have to "make the cut" for the next rounds.


Yeah, the concept just doesn't appeal to me - I don't see DPC as a site that is trying to crown the best photographer ever - it's a site that uses friendly competition to encourage personal growth as a photographer. This idea would provide entertainment, for participants and observers both, but to my mind it would be a bit off the beam of what I like about DPC.
 03/09/2006 03:29:01 PM · #52
Some of what DPC is about is competition. This would be a great competition.
Nothing wrong with going toe to toe. Make the cut or be gone. I like it.

Just My $.02
 03/09/2006 03:30:24 PM · #53
Originally posted by Little King:
with the origional proposal... it would last 4 weeks.... allowing a new one to start each month


But!..But!!...
Then there wouldn't be any downtime.
It would get stale faster.
People would focus mainly on the Knockout than on the other challenges (at least until they got knocked out). Not only that, but, in theory, your 'best' photogs would be focusing on the Knockout, to be the "Best of the Best" - and thereby neglecting the other challenges. Which would mean that there might be less quality in those.

With the shorter span, there would be 3 weeks or so of the current system (3 Challenges per week). This would create anticipation, intrigue, blah blah...

03/09/2006 03:31:19 PM · #54
Originally posted by joebok:

Yeah, the concept just doesn't appeal to me - I don't see DPC as a site that is trying to crown the best photographer ever - it's a site that uses friendly competition to encourage personal growth as a photographer. This idea would provide entertainment, for participants and observers both, but to my mind it would be a bit o ff the beam of what I like about DPC.

Ok. That's cool.

Message edited by author 2006-03-09 15:31:36.
 03/09/2006 03:35:05 PM · #55
plus if the best are in the knock-out challenge it gives us others a chance :)
 03/09/2006 04:43:46 PM · #56
Oh no, I don't see any declines in DPC and what it stands for. I also don't see it as taking away from any other challenges. There are sites and even on here where they have had one on ones or just challenges with Photoshop skills and the like. This one is just a different animal with more action as mattmac puts it. And I totally agree with mattmac's idea of the fast action mode too! It would be a welcome and interesting addition to the site in my opinion, and wouldn't take away from any of the other challenges. Just more to shoot and reason to learn, and that is what everyone wants, so why not? Hey, it can at least be tried once to see how it goes?

Rose
 03/09/2006 04:48:50 PM · #57
interesting 4 sure ... BUT ...
i think that current challenges are exiting enough and that kind of "competition" would slowly kill the spirit of dpc, i mean the loosers would probably never enter into knock-out challenge again:-)
my2c

so i vote NO thanks.
 03/09/2006 04:52:26 PM · #58
Originally posted by gooc:
interesting 4 sure ... BUT ...
i think that current challenges are exiting enough and that kind of "competition" would slowly kill the spirit of dpc, i mean the loosers would probably never enter into knock-out challenge again:-)
my2c

so i vote NO thanks.


Well, hells bells, I haven't won a ribbon yet, but that hasn't stopped me from entering. Why would this challenge be any different? And why would it kill the spirit of DPC? It's just another challenge prolonged instead of waiting to see if you make top ten range when there are 500 entries in a free study. This one you would know you either move on or you don't. I like it!

Rose
 03/09/2006 04:53:07 PM · #59
Why wouldn't losers enter again? I think that's a horrible assumption. Do losers of regular challenges give up?

That thought undermines the dedication and drive of this site's members
 03/09/2006 04:54:18 PM · #60
Well I will go on the record as one who does not like this idea at all. I just don't think it is right for this community. Seems very exclusionary. I think it would just create some super egos which is never a good idea for any community. Also, I think there are a lot of people who would feel they are not good enough for a challenge such as this and would not enter believing they did not have a chance and would feel 'left out.' Not a good way to make someone feel welcome in the group.

Message edited by author 2006-03-09 17:02:11.
 03/09/2006 04:55:03 PM · #61
because....
 03/09/2006 05:04:27 PM · #62
How about doing this idea in the course of a week all with 24 hour speed challenges?
 03/09/2006 05:06:23 PM · #63
Originally posted by bvoi:
How about doing this idea in the course of a week all with 24 hour speed challenges?


With 24 hour speed voting too?
 03/09/2006 05:11:11 PM · #64
Originally posted by bvoi:
How about doing this idea in the course of a week all with 24 hour speed challenges?

I was thinking about that too, but the drawback (as i saw it) was that you really reduce the Round 1 entrants. Not many people can find the time to enter a 24 hour challenge...

That being said, I say we try this KnockoutChallenge in a number of ways, and see what work
 03/09/2006 05:13:34 PM · #65
Originally posted by Little King:
Why wouldn't losers enter again? I think that's a horrible assumption. Do losers of regular challenges give up?

That thought undermines the dedication and drive of this site's members


i'm sorry if i pi**ed you off ;-) but the reasons not to enter again can be various, right ? also i don't know if someone from regular challenges gives up but i asume yes there are such cases for sure. and i really don't think that my tought "undermines the dedication and drive of this site's members" coz i'm a member too and each and everyone of us is different ... nothing else.

peace,
goran
 03/09/2006 05:18:56 PM · #66
The challenges themes would be kept secret right? Who would be creating them? Also, I suggest making it known before hand what type of themes may be used. Perhaps provide a master list of 20 or so themes where the actual ones will be pulled from. That way you'd still keep it a secret from round to round but at least the photographer will know exactly what they may expect to shoot in the later rounds should they advance.

ETA: I think the less people that know about the actual themes that will be used the better. It'd be a shame if some were to share that info with others and not the entire group participating.

Message edited by author 2006-03-09 17:20:13.
 03/09/2006 05:27:28 PM · #67
There are some major flaws with this theme as presented. I am thinking of the 101st, 31st etc. places. As with every challenge, basic or advanced, there are disqualifications. If you came in 101st, and knocked out of the 2nd round, only to find out that one of the top 100 failed to present the original photo, what would you do?

There would need to be more time between the end of one round and the beginning of another... it would be more than two weeks to go between rounds... would be pretty stretched out. one week to take the photo, one week to vote, one week to cleanup dqs, etc.

I regularly do not have the time to shoot challenges back to back even if I like the topic. Can't afford the time to do so. I don't think I would participate, but that's just me.
 03/09/2006 05:28:06 PM · #68
Originally posted by gooc:
Originally posted by Little King:
Why wouldn't losers enter again? I think that's a horrible assumption. Do losers of regular challenges give up?

That thought undermines the dedication and drive of this site's members


i'm sorry if i pi**ed you off ;-) but the reasons not to enter again can be various, right ? also i don't know if someone from regular challenges gives up but i asume yes there are such cases for sure. and i really don't think that my tought "undermines the dedication and drive of this site's members" coz i'm a member too and each and everyone of us is different ... nothing else.

peace,
goran


So basically you're saying it's no different than our current challenges? It's just one challenge suggestion and not a suggestion on how the site should run going forward. If anything a regular challenge like say "Shoes" would be more discouraging than one you knew off the bat was going to be much more difficult to win (like this one).
 03/09/2006 05:42:55 PM · #69
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by gooc:
Originally posted by Little King:
Why wouldn't losers enter again? I think that's a horrible assumption. Do losers of regular challenges give up?

That thought undermines the dedication and drive of this site's members


i'm sorry if i pi**ed you off ;-) but the reasons not to enter again can be various, right ? also i don't know if someone from regular challenges gives up but i asume yes there are such cases for sure. and i really don't think that my tought "undermines the dedication and drive of this site's members" coz i'm a member too and each and everyone of us is different ... nothing else.

peace,
goran


So basically you're saying it's no different than our current challenges? It's just one challenge suggestion and not a suggestion on how the site should run going forward. If anything a regular challenge like say "Shoes" would be more discouraging than one you knew off the bat was going to be much more difficult to win (like this one).


well me again ... first i'm sorry if i insulted someone with my tought but you are right, in some way. :-) ... let's say "Shoes" can be very encouraging to someone and for someone really not, but that's what i'm saying, we are all different so please forget that i ever said anything.

peace,
g.
 03/09/2006 05:51:07 PM · #70
Originally posted by gooc:


well me again ... first i'm sorry if i insulted someone with my tought but you are right, in some way. :-) ... let's say "Shoes" can be very encouraging to someone and for someone really not, but that's what i'm saying, we are all different so please forget that i ever said anything.

peace,
g.


I don't think anybody devalues your opinion. In fact I'm pretty sure it's the opposite. I didn't get upset by what you said so I hope you weren't referring to me. I agree people may get discourage for different reasons. What I questioned was how does that change here? It's another challenge suggestion and you're right some people might get discourage from losing in this one but how is that different from someone getting discouraged from a nude challenge or whatever. Like with every challenge people have the option to enter or not.

Message edited by author 2006-03-09 17:51:48.
 03/09/2006 05:54:08 PM · #71
This idea still "knocking around?"

Sorry, I couldn't resist. DQ runs and hides.
 03/09/2006 06:02:42 PM · #72
No offense taken. Not meant to sound like a jerk. And no... this isn't a suggestion on how the site should be run from now on. It's a suggestion for a special challenge type (like 24 hour and rubber ducky and photoshop challenges). It's something that would run along with the normal challenges as an EXTRA. Just some extra flare on the site. Fun, and competitive.
 03/09/2006 06:21:36 PM · #73
Originally posted by Alienyst:
Originally posted by bvoi:
How about doing this idea in the course of a week all with 24 hour speed challenges?


With 24 hour speed voting too?


Why don't we have a set number of votes needed such as 50% of total entrants until voting closes. We could also have a time limit of say four days so the voting does not drag on. Something similar could also be done for DQs. Four days to clear up...sooner if all are done.

24 hour challenge-Top 100 Advance

48 hour challenge- Top 50 Advance

24 hour challenge- Top 25 Advance

48 hour challenge- Top 10 Advance

1 Week challenge- Ribbons to top 3. "Golden Boxing gloves" for all in top 10.
 03/09/2006 06:27:58 PM · #74
I also think that this sort of tournament thing should happen two or three times a year only in tandem with the regular challenges.
 03/09/2006 06:29:16 PM · #75
Originally posted by bvoi:
I also think that this sort of tournament thing should happen two or three times a year only in tandem with the regular challenges.


and when you say two or three, you mean 6 or 10

:)
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