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03/09/2006 03:47:33 AM · #1 |
Had a few people ask me about doing some weddings this year and I'm inclined to say yes. Here is a gallery of a small outdoor wedding I did last summer. There are a few other wedding shots in the larger gallery as well, but this one I was THE photographer. The other shots might give you a full idea of what I've done, though.
I'm looking for feedback on how you think these look? I should have plenty of time to get used to the new camera. All the ones linked to were taken with the 717. Thanks for any input.
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03/09/2006 07:22:44 AM · #2 |
I think your pictures look great. I say go for it. :-)
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03/09/2006 08:12:34 AM · #3 |
The pictures are ok. One thing to note is that I feel that the flash is dialed in too high. Seems it's competing to be the main light source and leaving your subjects brighter than the surrounding background. The flash when shooting outdoors usually is dialed down so that it just becomes fill flash, leaving the sun as the main source. I'll post an example of one I have where the flash was used as fill.
I really like the pose shot of the bride looking up at the groom who is standing behind her. It looks very warm and natural.
-danny
Rest of the Wedding pics
Message edited by author 2006-03-09 08:12:49. |
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03/09/2006 09:02:16 AM · #4 |
Your pictures look well set out and you appear to have it well organised and thought out about how you want to apply your style
of arrangements.
I am doing my first weddingin May so good luck to us both ?
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03/09/2006 09:11:26 AM · #5 |
Great advice re: the flash. I never really "worked" with the flash for the 717, and now I can't even recall if there were different settings available on the HVL-F1000. I think I just let it meter the light. I now have the Canon 550EX to go with the 10D. I am barely getting used to the camera, so I haven't even looked much at the flash, but it appears to have much more flexibility.
Big difference between your shots and mine. :)
edited to add: The other thing to add is that is was a very dark, gray, rainy sweltering hot and humid summer day, so that may have affected the flash results as well?
Message edited by author 2006-03-09 09:12:50. |
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03/09/2006 09:40:39 AM · #6 |
There are so many damned vairables with flash, at weddings anyway, that it drives me nuts. I certainly see why many photogs spend big bucks on 50 1.4 and 85 1.2 lense and shoot at 1600.
The problem I fought with at my last wedding all canon's fault! In Av mode if teh EV values is above X, then the camera goes into fill flash mode and the shutter speed can drop as low as 30 seconds. you get off colors WB wise, if the shutter speed varies too much from one shot to the next. Custom WB is not an option (more on that in a moment) If it gets a bit darker, the Av mode kicks into main flash mode and shutter locks at 1/200 like in P mode. so the BG goes dark.
the fun part? the EV at this wedding was on the cusp - one shot was 1/200, the next 1/15....the solution i am told is to put the camera in manual mode and let the flash do the work of making enough light - but then you can run into recharge issues if you make the flash work too hard. I like too set the camera at 1 or 2 stops under the ambient reading (and let the flash fill in the difference. But the last reception was too dark for that to really work.
WB issues - the church was not too bad, but the reception was in teh daylight, with incandscent and flourescent lighting and windows - addin the camera flash and you get a mixed lighting. Custom WB you say? Fine, until you walk 20 feet and the mix of light changes (proportions of each anyway). Joy joy joy. At least they turned the lights up for the bouquest toss, so hitting ISO1600 and drive mode was at least feasible.
At least the brides to be that have seen my work like it - I am not satisfied, but will i ever be?
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03/09/2006 10:47:49 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
The problem I fought with at my last wedding all canon's fault! In Av mode if teh EV values is above X, then the camera goes into fill flash mode and the shutter speed can drop as low as 30 seconds. you get off colors WB wise, if the shutter speed varies too much from one shot to the next. |
The only time I shoot Av + flash is if I'm outside and I'm letting the camera figure out the fill flash ratio for me.
Indoors, I shoot strickly on M and most often at ISO 800 (sometimes 1600) with a fast lens (f/2.8) which is usually stopped down to f/3.2 or, at most, f/3.5.
The thing is, with the camera set to M, I also set my shutter speed - usually to at least 1/80th, but sometimes faster, sometimes slower, depending on what I'm trying to do. (a blurred dance shot is kinda fun, but a static shot which is blurred by camera shake is no good)
Anyway... my point is, you're bound for trouble shooting Av mode indoors with flash. It would probably be better to shoot Tv mode if you're looking to let the camera set the exposure. But about the only time M mode ever fails me is if I suddenly move into a room that is brighter than my shutter+aperture are set for and I forget to change them. Then I get an overexposed shot or two before I realize the error of my ways. :-)
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03/09/2006 11:52:19 PM · #8 |
Interesting input. I almost always shoot in manual. The one thing I've not tried yet at all is the "raw" format.
I figure by the time the weddings roll around (one summer, one fall so far) I will have a pretty good grasp on the functions of the 10D. Noise was a big problem on the 717 at 400 or above, so I at least have that advantage since switching to the DSLR. I'm pretty confident that if I can do these with a P&S, that I can achieve acceptable results now as well. |
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03/10/2006 12:44:37 AM · #9 |
I'll try more manual shooting then with my flash.
I need such a long list of things, and just spent $700 this week, so the pocket wizards and light meter will have to wait a while longer LOL
ON my rebel i can shoot ISO400 without any concern for noise, and 800 is usually good too, but i will neat image some shots especially ones i plan to enlarge a bit (8x10).
I hope my 30D will be as good at 800 as my rebel is at 400.
My next wedding is May 26. I have spoken to a propective bride about a date in april, but since i have not received a deposit i guess it's a no go. I have an outdoor wedding for July that should be fun. I get to break rule #1 - don't drink at the reception! It's a close friend's daughter, and the beer won't flow until the photography is done. I'm looking forward to it - I haven't been to a wedding as a guest in years!
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