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03/09/2006 04:17:08 AM · #701 |
Certainly if it's a non-exclusive license; I'd imagine that even an exclusive license would probably allow it because it's for a totally different purpose.
However, your best bet is to drop a line to Alamy and ask them - we've always found them pretty helpful answering questions like that. |
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03/09/2006 06:18:37 AM · #702 |
Originally posted by ca2hill: Can I sell prints of photos I list on Alamy? |
How is selling a print of your photo different from someone buying your photo through Alamy and selling it printed on the cover page of a magazine? When you sell a print, and you do not accompany it by a license to copy and resell the printed image, you retain full control of copyright for it and unauthorized copying of the print is against the law.
I would not imagine that selling a print of a licensed image conflicts with later continuing to sell it. But, then, again, I am not a lawyer or an experienced stock contributor, so take these musings for what they are. |
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03/09/2006 09:18:09 AM · #703 |
Thanks for the responses... I think I will just send an e-mail and ask Alamy. |
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03/09/2006 07:37:59 PM · #704 |
Originally posted by glad2badad: Submitted initial QC CD on Feb 14, 2006. Acknowledged and put in QC queue at Alamy on Feb 20, 2006. Waiting, waiting, waiting...
March 8, 2006 - QC passed. Woohoo! I'm in. ;^)
Gosh, it seemed like that took forever. |
yea!!! congrats! Now start burning more & more! :0P |
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03/10/2006 04:13:08 AM · #705 |
Originally posted by tryals15: After reading through this whole thread I got inspired and joined Alamy. I sent of my QC cd this morning... yay! =] |
Ahck... SOOOOO SLOOOOOW... I'm dieing here... Images accepted on March 2... I hate waiting... =[ |
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03/10/2006 09:40:33 AM · #706 |
Here's Alamy's response to me asking if I can sell prints of images I have listed with Alamy:
Alamy being non-exclusive means any images (except when they are listed as RP) that you have with us can be sold elsewhere, either through your own ventures or other agencies. If you need to block certain usages (or territories) for the purposes of rights management we allow you to specify those usages as a restriction. This enables you to maintain the integrity of your image rights whilst exploring new sales opportunities with images that may have a good selling history elsewhere.
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03/10/2006 09:57:55 AM · #707 |
Licensed vs Royalty-Free?
Just getting started at Alamy, setting up licenses, etc... I've read the differences between the licenses available. Problem is, once you make a choice on an image you cannot change it - so need to do it right the first time.
I did a handful of searches to see how other images have been listed. Seems that Licensed outnumbers RF by at least 3 to 1, sometimes more.
I'm thinking Licensed will generate more revenue per sale, but you may gain more volume using RF?
Most of the micro-stock sites are RF (Shutterstock, iStockphoto, etc...). If you were a vendor and weren't concerned about having control (Licensed image) where would you go for a RF image?
Obviously, I'm not some famous photographer with a set style that can license all my images and expect high prices. So, the approach I'll probably take is to license anything I have that is very unique and go RF with the rest.
I would love some thoughts/advice on this. So many questions. Tell me what you think. Thanks! ;^) BTW, I thought about creating a new thread for this, but I'm sure I'm not the only newbie to Alamy with these kind of questions...
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03/10/2006 10:05:36 AM · #708 |
When I went to PhotoExpo in NYC last fall, I went to several of the presentations about stock photography. In today's world . . . . most of our images probably need to be RF. Licensed images should be the ones that are very unusual, harder to obtain, or unique. I put my first ones in as licensed - and after I went to the Expo I have regretted that decision. |
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03/10/2006 10:57:53 AM · #709 |
Originally posted by glad2badad: Licensed vs Royalty-Free?
Just getting started at Alamy, setting up licenses, etc... I've read the differences between the licenses available. Problem is, once you make a choice on an image you cannot change it - so need to do it right the first time.
I did a handful of searches to see how other images have been listed. Seems that Licensed outnumbers RF by at least 3 to 1, sometimes more.
I'm thinking Licensed will generate more revenue per sale, but you may gain more volume using RF?
Most of the micro-stock sites are RF (Shutterstock, iStockphoto, etc...). If you were a vendor and weren't concerned about having control (Licensed image) where would you go for a RF image?
Obviously, I'm not some famous photographer with a set style that can license all my images and expect high prices. So, the approach I'll probably take is to license anything I have that is very unique and go RF with the rest.
I would love some thoughts/advice on this. So many questions. Tell me what you think. Thanks! ;^) BTW, I thought about creating a new thread for this, but I'm sure I'm not the only newbie to Alamy with these kind of questions... |
I just came across this on Alamy's website
Which licence?
Royalty-Free or Licensed? Advice on choosing a licence type for your images
We are often asked, particularly by new contributors whether it is best to license images as Royalty Free (RF) or Licensed (L). This is not an easy decision and it is necessary to consider a variety of factors before setting a licence type for your images. The differences between the licence types is decscribed under licensing in our Contributor help section.
Once you have decided on a licence type for an image, it will remain licensed as such for the lifetime of the image on Alamy. This is due to the fact that your images may have been selected by our clients, and placed in their shopping carts or lightboxes. Changing licence types would confuse the customer at this point, and more importantly may lead to a licensing conflict if the image had previously sold.
As it is not possible to set usage restrictions on Royalty Free images, you need to ensure that all RF images are free from potential legal issues for our clients. There are some things which should never be RF, including images of people with no model release, images of domestic buildings with no property release, logos, trademarks, copyrighted buildings and famous people. Images of any of these subjects should always be Licenced (L).
Although there are certainly no definitive guidelines to help you choose a licence type, and there is no 'magic formula,' some images are often more suited to certain licence types.
If you have a more generic image that is similar to many others on our site, there may sometimes be an advantage of licensing your image as RF. Converse to this, if you have an image with a degree of uniqueness or rarity about it, that you feel could potentially be used in advertising, then it is perhaps best to licence this image as L as this would maximise your income for this image. Along these lines, if you have invested a considerable amount of time and effort into a particular image, during perhaps a wildlife shoot, or other time consuming shoot, then you would probably be best placed setting this image as L.
Something else you should be aware of is that you should never put duplicates of images, or similar images on the site, one licensed as L and one as RF. Image duplication is not aesthetically pleasing and more importantly can have more far reaching repercussions for our clients, our business and may potentially have knock on legal implications for the contributor. If a client purchased one image as Licensed, for a substantial fee, they may then find the same image on our site as RF (and less expensive). This would not only confuse our customers about of pricing and licensing policy, but it would also aggrieve them.
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03/10/2006 11:06:18 AM · #710 |
Thanks maggie. I had read that as well and it is very helpful. I am quite curious how other members of the DPC community made their decision and if it's working out for them.
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03/10/2006 11:11:58 AM · #711 |
Does anyone know how to find Contributors Source on Alamy. I was able to find May/June 2005 issue by Googling. Are there any more issues? How do you find it on Alamy's website? |
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03/10/2006 12:57:28 PM · #712 |
Just got results, as it were, for the last lot I sent in.
Of 142 images sent 140 passed and 2 were failed.
One is my own fault, I somehow missed resizing it up! Oops!
The other is rejected on grounds of softness... fair enough. It can get hard to judge when looking through so many... I try to self-reject any that aren't up to scratch but this one got through.
Should show up against our account within 24 hours as I just zipped through and set license type, name and added a few keywords I thought of since submitting and all are now marked as "ready".
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03/10/2006 01:40:43 PM · #713 |
Kavey:
>Just got results, as it were, for the last lot I sent in.
>Of 142 images sent 140 passed and 2 were failed.
I was going to start a thread about Alamy rejections, but the question seems to fit here.
I'm submitting my Alamy QC disk this weekend, and I'm wondering whether to gear up for submitting small batches on CDs, rather than large batches on DVD. I'm based in the UK so I can do that easily.
The rationale would be to have a smaller bunch of images kicked out if a single one fails
My questions
1 - What % of images are inspected and/or rejected. Clearly this will be variable by photographer/equipment/workflow, but I wonder if anybody else has any figures.
2 - Is the declared policy of rejection of an entire submission implemented in practice, or do Alamy normally reject single images?
Thanks for any comments.
John Draycott |
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03/10/2006 01:56:01 PM · #714 |
Hi John
These 2 rejections are the first we've had rejected actually.
Here's our submission history:
Date received - - -Media type - - No. images - - Passed - Failed
17 February 2006 - - DVD - - - - - 142 - - - - 140 - - 2
30 November 2005 - - CD - - - - - 31 - - - - -31 - - 0
28 June 2005 - - - DVD - - - - - 66 - - - - -66 - - 0
25 May 2005 - - - -CD - - - - - 9 - - - - - 9 - - -0
25 May 2005 - - - -CD - - - - - 12 - - - - -12 - - 0
25 May 2005 - - - -CD - - - - - 13 - - - - -13 - - 0
25 May 2005 - - - -CD - - - - - 13 - - - - -13 - - 0
26 April 2005 - - - CD - - - - - 12 - - - - -12 - - 0
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03/11/2006 04:22:04 AM · #715 |
Having done a little digging on Alamy, there seem to be a number of photographs available Royalty Free without model/property releases which have actually been taken in places that I know are inside private/commercial buildings. This is certainly the case with some of the UK pics where I know the sites.
Caveat emptor - and I guess that doing the releases rigorously is a key marketing point.
John D |
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03/11/2006 11:38:10 PM · #716 |
Originally posted by ferdy:
I was going to start a thread about Alamy rejections, but the question seems to fit here.
I'm submitting my Alamy QC disk this weekend, and I'm wondering whether to gear up for submitting small batches on CDs, rather than large batches on DVD. I'm based in the UK so I can do that easily.
The rationale would be to have a smaller bunch of images kicked out if a single one fails
My questions
1 - What % of images are inspected and/or rejected. Clearly this will be variable by photographer/equipment/workflow, but I wonder if anybody else has any figures.
2 - Is the declared policy of rejection of an entire submission implemented in practice, or do Alamy normally reject single images?
Thanks for any comments.
John Draycott |
No, a whole CD/DVD will not be rejected for only a few images which are not acceptable. However, "...if we find recurring problems we may fail all images in all pending submissions." (quote from Alamy). |
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03/12/2006 09:08:18 AM · #717 |
Just posting to say my images passed QC after exactly 13 days. Now to keyword and caption them, and most importantly, decide on a licensing scheme.
I decided to go with RF for photos that would be easy to reshoot (studio etc.) and with L for unique/far away land photos. How did everyone else decide? |
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03/19/2006 04:53:11 PM · #718 |
Originally posted by tryals15: Originally posted by tryals15: After reading through this whole thread I got inspired and joined Alamy. I sent of my QC cd this morning... yay! =] |
Ahck... SOOOOO SLOOOOOW... I'm dieing here... Images accepted on March 2... I hate waiting... =[ |
Yay! My submissions were all accepted on Friday! I was out of town for the weekend, and got back tonight to discover this! Yay! =]
*Off to go keyword...* |
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03/19/2006 07:12:27 PM · #719 |
Originally posted by maggieddd: Does anyone know how to find Contributors Source on Alamy. I was able to find May/June 2005 issue by Googling. Are there any more issues? How do you find it on Alamy's website? |
once logged in go to my alamy- there's a few issuse on the right :0) |
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03/20/2006 04:31:48 AM · #720 |
My New Alamy Stuff!
Hip-Hip-Hooray! =] |
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03/20/2006 06:12:22 AM · #721 |
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03/20/2006 06:32:23 AM · #722 |
Sorry if this has already been asked in this thread but its a quick question so I won't read through the whole thing...When alamy uploads accepted pictures does it read the EXIF data from an image if it has been already captioned/keyworded? Or do you have to re-keyword nomatter what? Thanks!
-Ben |
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03/20/2006 07:40:18 AM · #723 |
bfox2, they read the caption and keywords sections of the IPTC profile, not the EXIF data, AFAIK. It's specified somewhere in the contributor help, it's worth reading through.
To all others watching this thread, a direct question: how long did it take to sell your first and how many photos did you have uploaded at the time? I'm trying to get a feel for the uploaded/sold ratio... |
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03/20/2006 10:10:48 AM · #724 |
I THINK (doing this from memory...) that it took me about 6 months to sell my first one (only sold 2 so far) and that at the time of first sale I had about 190-200 images up. Not all of those had been up for the full 6 months of course...
Doug
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03/20/2006 10:43:26 AM · #725 |
I uploaded and keyworded a bunch of images (several hundred) in November 2004 and had a sale towards the end of the month. I now have 2600+ pics and am averaging about 12 - 20 sales per month (it varies quite a bit - I average around $2/image/month). The more pics you have up, the more you'll sell. The more unique they are, the less competition, so the more you'll sell. Alamy has 4.6 million photos up for licensing, so if you only send in an initial submission of a dozen, you'll wait quite a while before you see a sale. |
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