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03/08/2006 06:00:15 AM · #1 |
The guy uses a canon G series i think a G6 or somthing. How is he able to get the pictures so clean they look almost fake. Can some one explain to me how i can get this kind of image?
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03/08/2006 07:03:09 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by BowerR64:
The guy uses a canon G series i think a G6 or somthing. How is he able to get the pictures so clean they look almost fake. Can some one explain to me how i can get this kind of image?
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don't see any special tricks except good clean lighting
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03/08/2006 07:08:33 AM · #3 |
looking at the reflection on the blue one, it just looks like regular florescent lighting though. I just don't see the nice extra clean images you are talking about sorry. Its my housechores day too and it looks like his floors need a clean! lol
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03/08/2006 08:25:57 AM · #4 |
On this topic...
can someone tell me how Heida does 'magic' to her photos?
Like this one?
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03/08/2006 08:30:57 AM · #5 |
| dodge - burn - dodge - burn & repeat.. |
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03/08/2006 08:35:04 AM · #6 |
erm... where would you dodge and burn?
how bout this one:
//www.mrx.no/album63/IMG_9200_copy.html
That is absolutely brilliant!
Look at the eyes... |
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03/08/2006 09:19:13 AM · #7 |
I know Heiða personally and I dont belive she has magic powers:p....
the trick about making a good photograph is always the same, good lighting and some photoshop skills maybe:D and of course the artistic touch wich i belive she has a lot of!
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03/08/2006 09:21:28 AM · #8 |
He he he...
Maybe she just hasnt bewitched you yet Nazgul :p
But what kind of skills would she have used on that pic?
Its one thing to say dodge and burn, but where and how...?
The picture looks alive. |
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03/08/2006 09:30:23 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by Guyver:
He he he...
Maybe she just hasnt bewitched you yet Nazgul :p
But what kind of skills would she have used on that pic?
Its one thing to say dodge and burn, but where and how...?
The picture looks alive. |
well I guess you´ll just have to go practice your photoshop skills just like me :/ |
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03/08/2006 09:33:09 AM · #10 |
| So you're kinda saying that picture is about 50% camera and lighting and the rest post production? |
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03/08/2006 09:35:52 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by Guyver:
So you're kinda saying that picture is about 50% camera and lighting and the rest post production? |
no I never said that:p......
I´d say maybe 20% post production? but hey who am i to say I´m not taht good:D |
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03/08/2006 09:40:13 AM · #12 |
I would actually love to see the original of that picture to lay my magic theory to rest once and for all...
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03/08/2006 09:41:48 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Guyver:
He he he...
Maybe she just hasnt bewitched you yet Nazgul :p
But what kind of skills would she have used on that pic?
Its one thing to say dodge and burn, but where and how...?
The picture looks alive. |
Judging from the skin tone I think there might be some desaturation going on as well as dodging and burning. When adding character (ruggedness) to a Male portrait, think the opposite of a female portrait where we try to cover wrinkles and cracks and bumps.
Here I would emphasis the lines and cracks of the gentlemans face by burning then slightly, make the eyes stand out with a slight dodging. Judging from the shadows on the face there might be a need to dodge the cheeks on left side of the face (as we are looking at it) to bring out a little dimension. A good sharpen will bring up the detail of the beard but one could burn in the right places and bring out even more detail.
Just my thoughts...
It is an awesome story telling shot.
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03/08/2006 09:44:39 AM · #14 |
Tip for those new to dodging & burning: Use the tool's exposure setting really low, like 3 or 4% and do many light layers of dodge or burn rather than one heavier one. You'll get a much more natural (and controllable) look so its well worth the extra time.
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03/08/2006 09:46:00 AM · #15 |
Thanks awpollard, thats really a good response!
I'm gonna try a little doging and burning tonight!!
Message edited by author 2006-03-08 09:51:42. |
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03/08/2006 09:48:13 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by Guyver:
I would actually love to see the original of that picture to lay my magic theory to rest once and for all...
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Photography in it self both in camera and post production could of course be called some kind of magic......
I dont mind what it takes to make a good photograph as long as the end results are pleasing....but to have that kind of results you need all things to come toghether as one.
in that case Heida had a great model, thought out lighting and sprinkled it with some post prodution tricks to make what I belive is a wonderful portrait..... |
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03/08/2006 09:52:32 AM · #17 |
Well said Nazgul.
And as you said earlier, I think Heida has got that artistic flair that she adds to a photo to make it truly unique. |
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03/08/2006 09:56:24 AM · #18 |
Heida did a Post-processing mentorship thread a a while back that shows the steps she used for her Fairyland entry. If you go through it, you can see she did an amazing number of layers to achieve the effects she did. You can find the thread here
edit: typo
Message edited by author 2006-03-08 09:57:47.
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03/08/2006 10:00:12 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by Guyver:
On this topic...
can someone tell me how Heida does 'magic' to her photos?
Like this one?
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I certainly can't speak for her but she did a very nice, step-by-step tutorial here on one of her images (Fantasy something...) that I thought was one of the most helpful things I've seen on DPC. Look for that and you'll get in the ball park.
She mentioned Selective Coloring a number of times as being one of her favorite tools. That image from what I see looks like it was first de-saturated then enhanced with selectively applied Magenta....maybe Blue(?) I would also assume a number of burn swipes in the shadow mode...plus a whole lot more detailed stuff of course but that's where I would start if I wanted to recreate her effect.
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03/08/2006 11:08:37 AM · #20 |
I recently started working with studio lights. Even with my limited knowledge of lighting, I was able to immediately improve the quality of my portraits. It's amazing what good lighting will do. On a picture like this, a lot of it is lighting. I agree with one of the other comments...there seems to be some desaturation, some minor burning, and maybe some unsharpen mask. It doesn't seem that complicated. The key to Heida's success is that she is very consistent about her "look". She's found a couple techniques that work and sticks with them...so we're continually amazed, although she really isn't doing anything new :-)
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03/08/2006 11:15:49 AM · #21 |
I tried the burn and dodge thing and got crap. then i read something on it - not that i can remember it all, but they way they did was to creat a fill layer of gray (perhaps teh fables 18% neutral gray) and changed it's blend mode to ...color or luminosity maybe? then they did the d&b on THAT layer.
Normal d&b will make things black or white if taken too far, and it will chagen teh colors. the above 'trick' fixed that.
Also, I see these images have one other thing in comon - extremely sharp.
For that you need to find what works for your camera in PP and the image itself. I am still trying...
my old fuji S602 needed a first USM pass at 500% and .1. That just made my rebel images butt ugly. for the canon line of dSLRs, Canon recomends 300%, .3, and 0 (but some go up to 5 on t-hold for portraits to keep the skin a bit softer). then do the PP work and sharpen again. For most of my DPC stuff I do a 40%, .9, 1 after resizing. For pics with lots of detial (my bird shots) i do a hi-pass filter with an overlay blend mode. But that is not legal for basic editing challenges.
As for the facial tones...I don't ahve that answer!
My 'best' images for demonstrating the above techniques (not the d&b though)
 
 lighting is the (uncontrolled) key in this one.
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03/08/2006 11:24:14 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by Guyver:
she did a very nice, step-by-step tutorial here on one of her images (Fantasy something...) that I thought was one of the most helpful things I've seen on DPC. |
Can someone help me find this? I have been searcing with little luck.
Thanks In Advance!!! |
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03/08/2006 11:29:31 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
I tried the burn and dodge thing and got crap. then i read something on it - not that i can remember it all, but they way they did was to creat a fill layer of gray (perhaps teh fables 18% neutral gray) and changed it's blend mode to ...color or luminosity maybe? then they did the d&b on THAT layer.
Normal d&b will make things black or white if taken too far, and it will chagen teh colors. the above 'trick' fixed that.
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Here's how I do it and I think this is the method you are referring to.
Create a new layer, select overlay as the blend mode and check the "fill with 50% gray" box. Then all you do is paint black on that layer at reduced opacity to burn and use white to dodge.
It's easy to reverse, and easy to see what the total effect is just by switching the visibility of the overlay layer on or off.
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03/08/2006 11:29:36 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
I tried the burn and dodge thing and got crap. then i read something on it - not that i can remember it all, but they way they did was to creat a fill layer of gray (perhaps teh fables 18% neutral gray) and changed it's blend mode to ...color or luminosity maybe? then they did the d&b on THAT layer.
Normal d&b will make things black or white if taken too far, and it will chagen teh colors. the above 'trick' fixed that. |
That sounds similar to what I do. I create a new 50% greyscale layer and do dodge and burn on it. I've never tried changing the mode and that sounds interesting so will try it. What I like best about the greyscale layer is that it blends better with the original image and it is not as easy to overdo it.
I also use the 50% greyscale layer for subtle adjustments from color range selections and then paint with a selected color to bring them out more. It has fewer side effects than a straight Hue/Saturation adjustment and allows you to make directed changes that appear more natural. Give the "artist" better control. :)
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03/08/2006 11:35:19 AM · #25 |
Originally posted by persimon:
Originally posted by Guyver:
she did a very nice, step-by-step tutorial here on one of her images (Fantasy something...) that I thought was one of the most helpful things I've seen on DPC. |
Can someone help me find this? I have been searcing with little luck.
Thanks In Advance!!! |
Check out Prism's post above, she has included the link :-) |
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