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03/08/2006 10:50:15 AM · #1 |
What's up with the endless supply of barbed wire pics?
It seems no challenge is immune to someone thinking barbed wire is perfect for it.
Now if only someone would do the "heart-shadow-in-a-book" out of a loop of barbed wire, talk about originality! |
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03/08/2006 10:51:59 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by rswank:
... Now if only someone would do the "heart-shadow-in-a-book" out of a loop of barbed wire, talk about originality! |
Has potential! ;^)
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03/08/2006 10:57:26 AM · #3 |
Oy.....now all the barbedwires and heartshadowbooks are going to switch to wine glasses...
Personally, I think barbed wire is kind of cool.. it's such a loaded image. |
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03/08/2006 10:58:00 AM · #4 |
| The problem with this line of thinking is that there are always subjects which photographers repeatedly shoot that others might find over-used. For you it's barbed wire and "heart-shadow-in-a-book". For others it may be water drops, eggs, babies, smoke, etc. Photographers have their styles and favorite subjects. Some see an idea, and they want to try it. There is nothing wrong with that. Over time, the photographer might get voted down by the community for lack or originality, but it isn't really for us as individuals to decide what is original and what isn't. |
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03/08/2006 11:05:58 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by persimon:
... Some see an idea, and they want to try it. There is nothing wrong with that. ... |
I agree. I think in the back of my mind, seeing barbed wire shots inspired this. ;^) FWIW
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03/08/2006 11:17:51 AM · #6 |
I cringe everytime I see horses and barbed wire photos. Barbed wire may be the most economical fencing but your horses can sure get injured by it. We've fortunately been able to replace all of it on our property.
As for trends and photos, The newer people to the site probably don't even realize that a subject has been overdone. As they seek/learn more and more they soon realize that originality is rare.
persimon made some great points. |
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03/08/2006 11:35:10 AM · #7 |
I get so sick and tired of all the crabbing around her about why so many of a certain subject, or a cetain style, blah blah blah. Why do you shoot what you shoot? Because you want to....because you can.....because it appeals to you. It's called artistic freedom. What gets me is how many are voting down images that are technically very good just because they are tired of the subject. I'm not saying the OP does this as they did not indicate that at all, but it does happen here. I really try to put more weight on the technicals when I vote than my personal prefs. Personal tastes do play a part, but just becasue it's barbed wire - if it exectured in a near perfect way I'm not gonna slam them for having not appealed to me - I may knock one point off. Just because I dot like a hot doesnt mean it's bad
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03/08/2006 11:36:05 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by rswank:
What's up with the endless supply of barbed wire pics?
It seems no challenge is immune to someone thinking barbed wire is perfect for it.
Now if only someone would do the "heart-shadow-in-a-book" out of a loop of barbed wire, talk about originality! |
Hey, there's also an endless supply of flower pics, running water pics, people portraits, pet portraits, kids with pets, motorcycle-motion-pan pics, you name it - there are thousands of shots of any one type of subject in the world.
Guess what.
I still like to look at 'em.
Keep 'em coming. Barbed wire? Yeah, I love it. Ducks? Bring 'em on.
Let's just take pix and enjoy it, heh?
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03/08/2006 11:52:58 AM · #9 |
hehehehe, yep, I've heard people bring up many times being sick of certain types of shots. Let's see, there's:
flowers, pets, bug macros, kids, sunsets/rises, wine glasses, water drops, LE flowing water, motorcycle motion pan and stop motion shots, barbed wire, guitars, portraits of girls with veils/scarves, street people, horses, landscapes, toys, statues, figurines, chess boards, food, coffee, bridges, sports, barns, old dilapidated buildings, and any easily recognizable style/subject. (I probably missed some)
So, I guess there are still a few things we can shoot, like dragons, batteries or dirty underwear. Of course, it won't take long and then people will complain about seeing too many shots of dragons, batteries and dirty underwear!
As for me, I never, ever get tired of seeing shots of Kilt wearing scottish poet warriors riding plaid tuxedo clad flying monkeys into battle.
I say Bring 'em on...a great shot is a great shot :-)
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03/08/2006 12:22:08 PM · #10 |
i get tired of seeing the same shots over and over as well. i think we all do.
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the greatest thing is when you see a barbew wire pic that is more than just a pic.
it is all about creativity, not the subject matter.
ifn all i did was take pics of my face yall would certainly be screaming about that. lol.
i think that the whole point is to learn how to be a bit more creative with taking the same subjects over and over. i know that is why i am here. i can learn technical skills anywhere. (um maybe)
its that ability to create an artful expression in a week on a subject that you are forced to create that makes a photog better.
i cannot wait till i get gallons better than what i am. i am ready to evolve to the next level. (just gotta get all yall thinking i am ready. lol) |
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03/08/2006 12:35:22 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by rswank:
What's up with the endless supply of barbed wire pics?
It seems no challenge is immune to someone thinking barbed wire is perfect for it.
Now if only someone would do the "heart-shadow-in-a-book" out of a loop of barbed wire, talk about originality! |
Hmmm, I wonder how many challenges have pictures of trees... ;-)
My barbed-wire pic for duotones was my first one, although it could have been a different setting--I was really trying to get a nice macro of the spiderweb and dew (which has also been done before) that happened to be on barbed wire. (But there is a nice contrast between the pointed barbs and the delicate dew and webbing.)
Message edited by author 2006-03-08 13:27:05.
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03/08/2006 12:55:19 PM · #12 |
Barbed wire carries powerful emotional and political connotations, symbolizing control, oppression, hopelessness, greed, etc.
Trouble in Paradise  Lines Leading Nowhere  |
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03/08/2006 01:05:15 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by taterbug:
(I probably missed some) |
Cell phones...computer mice...woodies.... |
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03/08/2006 01:50:31 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by dahved:
Hmmm, I wonder how many challenges have pictures of trees... ;-)
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I thought it ... you said it :)
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03/08/2006 02:08:44 PM · #15 |
Hit a nerve i guess ;)
Of course! All hail the Artistic Freedom to shoot what you want!
Hehe.
This was not meant to be taken so seriously, nor as a suggestion to stop posting barbed wire photos as they truly do symbolize so much and thus for the sake of humanity must continue to be entered in challenges.
Shoot what you want, enter what you want, have fun but I'll definately continue to roll my eyes wondering "what were they thinking" perhaps malevolently.
As to the suggestion that "it isn't really for us as individuals to decide what is original and what isn't". That makes absolutely no sense to me.
Who decides then?
Yes, we can differ on opinion and degree but you say we shouldn't consider originality when evaluating a piece of art or in our case when voting on one?
I'm sorry but cat pics, baby pics et al get an automatic downgrade.
They are in the same class as a snapshot.
The disclaimer is that these overdone subjects can score high if the other elements of the vote warrant it - emotion, compostition, perspective etc, if the photo speaks to me.
As an aside, it would be interesting to see the vote percentage breakdown on some of these photos based on membership tenure.
The newest ones probably voted highest thinking that the heart shadow was the coolest thing they have ever seen (as I thought at first and then became pissed feeling like I was cheated when I saw it was in the damn how-to section) with a parabolic downward curve the older one's membership (genius, I know).
Oh, and I have to admit, I do like some of them barbed wire pics. |
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03/08/2006 02:09:54 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by colyla:
Originally posted by dahved:
Hmmm, I wonder how many challenges have pictures of trees... ;-)
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I thought it ... you said it :) |
Well, probably someone would...(this refers to the OP's profile, BTW). No offense intended.
Message edited by author 2006-03-08 14:10:52.
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03/08/2006 02:12:47 PM · #17 |
 <----rather fond of this one.
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03/08/2006 02:27:40 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by rswank:
I'm sorry but cat pics, baby pics et al get an automatic downgrade.
They are in the same class as a snapshot. |
Shame on you Ryan.
Skip a pic in the voting process if need be, but to knock a shot down just because you don't like the subject, says you can't be impartial in the voting process, which is what us as judges are supposed to do - be impartial.
Sometimes members try something they couldn't get right before, or are attempting to better a shot done previously with an older camera, or even venturing out of their comfort zone, trying new things, experimenting with getting the light right, new lens, depth of field, or whatever.
Whatever you do, do NOT look in here.
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03/08/2006 02:31:33 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by BradP:
<----rather fond of this one. |
C'mon Brad, that ain't "barbed" wire, that's gen-u-wine RAZOR wire...
Robt.
Edit to add: That's nice china you feed the kittie on, but your treatment of Woody borders on the despicable.
R.
Message edited by author 2006-03-08 14:33:36.
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03/08/2006 02:36:54 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by rswank:
I'm sorry but cat pics, baby pics et al get an automatic downgrade.
They are in the same class as a snapshot.
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Maybe your shots of cats and baby pics are nothing more than snaps, but I've seen some really well done pet portraits and baby portraits here. Before you go voting them down, why not see if you're good ebihgh to duplicate the shot in pose, technicals, lighting - the whole shabang. To downgrade them all due to subject matter doesn't say much for your voting style. Like Brad said - you obviously don't know how to judge impartially.
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03/08/2006 02:40:21 PM · #21 |
"What's up with the barbed wire fetish?"
Better then pictures of rear ends
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03/08/2006 02:41:30 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by rswank:
Now if only someone would do the "heart-shadow-in-a-book" out of a loop of barbed wire, talk about originality! |
Then there's ... the cat ... we have to have a cat. And well, the cat wrapped in barbed wire looking at the heart in the book would have to be sitting by the water with the sunset behind and the baby could just be sleeping - as long as its in shot.
Brett |
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03/08/2006 02:42:18 PM · #23 |
barbed wire can look good in a picture..
here's one by heida.. looking good ?
and here's one.. ;)
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03/08/2006 02:55:19 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by DanSig:
barbed wire can look good in a picture.. |
One out of two ain't bad.
One would serve as a nice fencing material.
The other a wheel chock for an airplane.
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03/08/2006 03:03:23 PM · #25 |
I have barbed wire in alot of my picture, mostly the landscape ones but here is one of my favorites that is just the wire.
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