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 02/25/2006 10:51:07 AM · #26
Originally posted by awpollard:
At the Command Prompt enter SFC /SCANNOW

Won't SFC detect all the files changed by Windows update?
 02/25/2006 11:46:17 AM · #27
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by awpollard:
At the Command Prompt enter SFC /SCANNOW

Won't SFC detect all the files changed by Windows update?


SFC is Service Pack/Update aware... when it encounters one of those files it will grab the right file from that weird $hf_mig$ directory under Windows...
 02/25/2006 04:31:05 PM · #28
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
Originally posted by JRalston:
P.S. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU to everyone who helpd or tried to help. You have made my....February...LOL

We do seem to be having problems with keeping the autoprotect on Norton on. We may try a reinstall there.


Do yourself a favour, uninstall Norton and throw out the CD, and never use it again.



Thank you for the suggetion :) When my husband gets home, I will mention this too him. Again, thank you so much!
 02/25/2006 04:33:39 PM · #29
Originally posted by NathanW:
Originally posted by JRalston:


Yes, my husband said he tried the system restore and it worked until he restarted the computer. Our computer did not come with an istallation disc. The install files were loaded on a separate partition of the hard drive.


You must have an HP. If You can go to their website (from any computer)you might be able to get them to send you one in the mail (it was actually required of them at one time by a court order).


Ours is actually a Sony Vaio. Our laptop is an HP and I don't think it came with a disc either! I will check their website to see if the offer such thing :)
 02/25/2006 04:42:24 PM · #30
A few questions-
I think our system had gone crazy back when we were trying to rid our system of annoying pop-ups. I cannot recall if the problem started with the pop-ups or after trying to rid the computer of them.

We have these programs on our computer, which should I keep and which can I remove? I know the registry ones we put on trying to figure out the problem I started this thread with. I don't think any of them are constantly on and none have seemed to hurt the computer.
-Advanced System Optimizer
-Registry Mechanic
-Adware SE Personal
-Spybot Search & Destroy
-Spyware Blaster
-CCleaner
-Ewido Security Suite
-CleanUp!
 02/25/2006 04:46:52 PM · #31
About Norton....just received this email from my husband at work:

Norton internet security is causing the conflict on Compuserve, MPIX,
etc... If you open Norton Internet Security you will see the Privacy defense
ar something and the ad blocker turned off. They are the ones that were
causing the problems.

Damn Norton! Causing me all that stress...
 02/25/2006 05:04:03 PM · #32
I use AVG Free, Spybot Search and Destroy and Spyware Blaster. Spyware Blaster runs in the background and prevents spyware from being installed. Also, make sure you use the immunize function on Spybot S&D. it's similar to Spyware Blaster.

If you're on a high speed connection (cable/dsl) it's a wise thing to buy a router and set it up as a hardware firewall, even if you aren't using it as a home network. If on dialup, Zonealarm makes a free version of their software firewall that works nicely. Both are better firewall solutions to XP's built in firewall.

Since using these, and keeping them updated, I haven't had any problems. I've gone from close to 50 spam emails a day to zero and rarely have a spyware appear on my scans. The key is keeping them all updated, along with windows updates.

EDIT: I agree 100% with others... Lose Norton.

Message edited by author 2006-02-25 17:05:47.
 02/25/2006 05:08:47 PM · #33
Originally posted by blurbayou:
I use AVG Free, Spybot Search and Destroy and Spyware Blaster. Spyware Blaster runs in the background and prevents spyware from being installed. Also, make sure you use the immunize function on Spybot S&D. it's similar to Spyware Blaster.

If you're on a high speed connection (cable/dsl) it's a wise thing to buy a router and set it up as a hardware firewall, even if you aren't using it as a home network. If on dialup, Zonealarm makes a free version of their software firewall that works nicely. Both are better firewall solutions to XP's built in firewall.

Since using these, and keeping them updated, I haven't had any problems. I've gone from close to 50 spam emails a day to zero and rarely have a spyware appear on my scans. The key is keeping them all updated, along with windows updates.

EDIT: I agree 100% with others... Lose Norton.


Thank you!!! Looks like everyone hates Norton...so do I after it has been the cause for all my problems!

We do have a router that our internet runs through. (Wireless internet is the greatest invention sinced sliced bread...lol)

02/25/2006 05:18:12 PM · #34
Open your browser and check the security settings--in IE, you would click Tools->Internet Options->security (tab) and click the "sites" button for each zone. Make sure that the local intranet and trusted zones only have what you want in them (IIRC, AOL would add itself to your trusted zone without notifying you.)

And run antivirus, firewall, and spyware detectors. Note that you should periodically run several spyware detectors. I use Microsoft Antispyware, Addaware, spybot search and destory (and Zonealarm pro has one also).
 02/25/2006 05:33:20 PM · #35
Zone Alarm Pro is worth the upgrade from the free version. For anti virus I agree with getting rid of Norton. Try Avast,its free and I have found it better than AVG

Avast Anti-Virus
 02/26/2006 08:32:42 PM · #36
Originally posted by blurbayou:
I use AVG Free, Spybot Search and Destroy and Spyware Blaster. Spyware Blaster runs in the background and prevents spyware from being installed. Also, make sure you use the immunize function on Spybot S&D. it's similar to Spyware Blaster.
EDIT: I agree 100% with others... Lose Norton.

That's the exact same setup I have on my machine right now and I've never had a problem. I only format my hard drive once or twice a year just to keep the computer working nicely. When you get everything back in working order, go back into the msconfig screen and disable whatever stuff you don't need starting up whenever windows starts. You are also going to need to regularly update Spyware Blaster and Spybot as they do not have an auto update function that I am aware of. Good luck with everything!
02/26/2006 08:44:11 PM · #37
Originally posted by SamDoe1:
Originally posted by blurbayou:
I use AVG Free, Spybot Search and Destroy and Spyware Blaster. Spyware Blaster runs in the background and prevents spyware from being installed. Also, make sure you use the immunize function on Spybot S&D. it's similar to Spyware Blaster.
EDIT: I agree 100% with others... Lose Norton.

That's the exact same setup I have on my machine right now and I've never had a problem. I only format my hard drive once or twice a year just to keep the computer working nicely. When you get everything back in working order, go back into the msconfig screen and disable whatever stuff you don't need starting up whenever windows starts. You are also going to need to regularly update Spyware Blaster and Spybot as they do not have an auto update function that I am aware of. Good luck with everything!


Thanks. So you thing the free version of AVG will be sufficiant? We were debating if we should pay $40 for the 2 year service or if the free was enough.

02/26/2006 09:04:41 PM · #38
Originally posted by JRalston:

Thanks. So you thing the free version of AVG will be sufficiant? We were debating if we should pay $40 for the 2 year service or if the free was enough.


In the 3-4 years I've used AVG Free I've not had a virus infect my computer. My computer is on and connected to the net from the time I wake up to the time I go to bed (work out of the home). On 2 occasions while I've been sitting here working, AVG has detected and alearted me to a problem, stopping it before it actually became a problem. I do make sure it's updated daily. I do it manually, but, you can set it up for automatic updates.

If they stopped support for the free version I would gladly purchase a service agreement. As long as they offer and support the free version it's all I need. As always, mileage may vary. :)
 02/26/2006 09:06:46 PM · #39
Originally posted by blurbayou:
Originally posted by JRalston:

Thanks. So you thing the free version of AVG will be sufficiant? We were debating if we should pay $40 for the 2 year service or if the free was enough.


In the 3-4 years I've used AVG Free I've not had a virus infect my computer. My computer is on and connected to the net from the time I wake up to the time I go to bed (work out of the home). On 2 occasions while I've been sitting here working, AVG has detected and alearted me to a problem, stopping it before it actually became a problem. I do make sure it's updated daily. I do it manually, but, you can set it up for automatic updates.

If they stopped support for the free version I would gladly purchase a service agreement. As long as they offer and support the free version it's all I need. As always, mileage may vary. :)


Thank you. I think we might as well give the free version a whirl. We can always shell out the dollars if it is not enough. Our computers are on and online 24/7...LOL
 02/26/2006 09:19:58 PM · #40
Sounds like a really bad spyware case. Reinstalling windows is the only sure way.

Nick
 02/26/2006 09:24:31 PM · #41
I have not seen this mentioned yet but I can't live without Spybot Search and Destroy. This program not only removes spy ware and Ad ware but monitors and protects you from it getting on your computer in the first place. Protects your information and will run silently in the background without using up any noticeable memory. You can find it here:

//www.safer-networking.org/

Also everyone else is right, Norton sucks. Hope this helps someone. BTW my best friend is a Microsoft certified engineer and told me to get this program and never lose it. Works great and it̢۪s free.

I had this exact same problem once and it was because I had removed a program that dealt with recording CD̢۪s and it removed some of my Java files. When I reinstalled that program it fixed the Java problem. Go figure. But SpyBot is the best to protect you.

02/26/2006 09:39:48 PM · #42
Originally posted by JRalston:
A few questions-
I think our system had gone crazy back when we were trying to rid our system of annoying pop-ups. I cannot recall if the problem started with the pop-ups or after trying to rid the computer of them.

We have these programs on our computer, which should I keep and which can I remove? I know the registry ones we put on trying to figure out the problem I started this thread with. I don't think any of them are constantly on and none have seemed to hurt the computer.
-Advanced System Optimizer
-Registry Mechanic
-Adware SE Personal
-Spybot Search & Destroy
-Spyware Blaster
-CCleaner
-Ewido Security Suite
-CleanUp!


-Advanced System Optimizer - remove it
-Registry Mechanic - remove it
-Adware SE Personal - keep it
-Spybot Search & Destroy - keep it
-Spyware Blaster - keep it
-CCleaner - I've never heard of it, but it gets a nice ratingf at download.com
-Ewido Security Suite - keep it
-CleanUp! - remove it

A lot of these "spyware" removal programs are sometime installed with "driveby installations". And they have real nice names.

This is a very informative site on how to clean and PREVENT spyware. Give it a read:

//www.spywareinfo.com/

02/26/2006 09:51:40 PM · #43
Thank you Larry, that is very helpful.
 02/26/2006 10:44:19 PM · #44
Originally posted by blurbayou:
Originally posted by JRalston:

Thanks. So you thing the free version of AVG will be sufficiant? We were debating if we should pay $40 for the 2 year service or if the free was enough.


In the 3-4 years I've used AVG Free I've not had a virus infect my computer. My computer is on and connected to the net from the time I wake up to the time I go to bed (work out of the home). On 2 occasions while I've been sitting here working, AVG has detected and alearted me to a problem, stopping it before it actually became a problem. I do make sure it's updated daily. I do it manually, but, you can set it up for automatic updates.

If they stopped support for the free version I would gladly purchase a service agreement. As long as they offer and support the free version it's all I need. As always, mileage may vary. :)

Agreed, AVG Free is more than enough. My laptop is running 24/7 and I also download tv shows I miss from torrent sites. AVG Free has kept me from messing up my computer on more than one occasion. It works great.
 02/26/2006 11:22:06 PM · #45
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by NathanW:
Originally posted by JRalston:


Yes, my husband said he tried the system restore and it worked until he restarted the computer. Our computer did not come with an istallation disc. The install files were loaded on a separate partition of the hard drive.


You must have an HP. If You can go to their website (from any computer)you might be able to get them to send you one in the mail (it was actually required of them at one time by a court order).


An HP, or recently a Lenovo (formerly IBM) laptop. My new "corporate" laptop came with a hard drive where half (!!) of the drive was taken up in a partition containing the restore data. It's idiotic.


Just got the Dell 9300 and it didn't come with a restore CD either....it took up space on my HD in a different partition...along with the manual! Go figure ....

02/27/2006 01:30:15 AM · #46
Seems that everyone is talking about their Manufactures Restore CD... When things get bad because of a screw up or what ever, you should try the WinXP Restore first not to be confused with HP, Dell etc. Restore CD/Partition.

Every time you Install a new driver, application or what ever and every time you shut your computer down (successfully) XP creates a restore point (yes it hogs even more of your disk as it save many days of restore points).

If we run into a problem we can go back 1 or more days and restore to a point that the system worked fine.

To make sure that it is on (and it is on by default)

Start > Right click My Computer > Choose Properties
System Restore Tab (No check in the box means it is on)
Highlight your C: Drive Click Settings button.
The Slider will tell you how much in percent of your disk is being used for Restore Points... higher the percent the farther back you can restore to. Once you use all that space the oldest restore point is over written.

If you ever have to restore, the way to do it is...
Start > Program Files > Accessories > System Tools > System Restore
It will provide you a list of days that you can restore back to.

Message edited by author 2006-02-27 01:31:13.
 02/27/2006 07:18:31 AM · #47
Using the restore point in Windows XP is a good point, however I have experienced the problem of a virus in the restore! So I have restore turned off at the moment.

AVG did not spot that, one reason I went to Avast!


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